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mwecomputers



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Location: Blackshear, GA USA

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Existing session via RWW? Reply with quote

I have a user that needs to take over a current session running on his
office desktop from a remote location (i.e. home, remote client site, etc).
The programs that are current running on the desktop cannot run as a
service, thus are in an active session state. Logging off the workstation
would terminate the session -- so that is not an option.

How can the user use RWW to connect to his desktop to take over the
current/existing session and not start a new one? (i.e. connect via RWW and
send a CTRL-Alt-Delete to open his desktop to resume the session).

Is there something special I need to setup for the user's account to do
this?

-- Michael
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Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: Existing session via RWW? Reply with quote

MWE Computers Services wrote:

Quote:
I have a user that needs to take over a current session running on his
office desktop from a remote location (i.e. home, remote client site, etc).
The programs that are current running on the desktop cannot run as a
service, thus are in an active session state. Logging off the workstation
would terminate the session -- so that is not an option.

How can the user use RWW to connect to his desktop to take over the
current/existing session and not start a new one? (i.e. connect via RWW and
send a CTRL-Alt-Delete to open his desktop to resume the session).

Is there something special I need to setup for the user's account to do
this?

The user just has to specify the same credentials as the session that's
been left running. XP only supports a single logon, so the user will be
reconnected to the running session, unless different credentials are
supplied in which case the user will be asked if the original session
should be terminated (if the credentials supplied are those of an
administrative privilege user - non-admins can't boot other users).

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
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mwecomputers



Joined: 11 Jul 2005
Posts: 73
Location: Blackshear, GA USA

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Existing session via RWW? Reply with quote

The reason I am asking is my client is deploying a distribution inventory
system at their main office and a number of external clients that will
produce data and upload it to the inventory system via fax and/or FTP.
Yesterday during their first deployment (I was onsite with them), the
inventory system failed on its fax interface. When I tried to remote in
while the workstation was being used (by others in the office -- so they can
see what I am doing), they said it locked the screen. When they unlocked it
(while I was logged in), it dropped my RWW connection to the workstation.

So if its not possible via RWW to do a shared session at the same time --
what product would you use to do what is needed for a shared session to take
place? The workstation (inventory system) is running XP Pro + SP2 with SQL
Server 2000 installed on it.

Thanks.

-- Michael


"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xn0e9lqia1f1y15005@msnews.microsoft.com...
Quote:
MWE Computers Services wrote:

I have a user that needs to take over a current session running on his
office desktop from a remote location (i.e. home, remote client site,
etc).
The programs that are current running on the desktop cannot run as a
service, thus are in an active session state. Logging off the workstation
would terminate the session -- so that is not an option.

How can the user use RWW to connect to his desktop to take over the
current/existing session and not start a new one? (i.e. connect via RWW
and
send a CTRL-Alt-Delete to open his desktop to resume the session).

Is there something special I need to setup for the user's account to do
this?

The user just has to specify the same credentials as the session that's
been left running. XP only supports a single logon, so the user will be
reconnected to the running session, unless different credentials are
supplied in which case the user will be asked if the original session
should be terminated (if the credentials supplied are those of an
administrative privilege user - non-admins can't boot other users).

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
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Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Existing session via RWW? Reply with quote

Hi Michael,

Since only 1 user can have an active session in Windows XP at a time, I'm
thinking RWW won't be a solution for a shared session. However, you could:

1. VPN into the Server and then fire up a VNC session (I use TightVNC)
targeted at the LAN WinXP workstation - requires that the workstation be set
up as a VNC "server".

2. Use a service like Logmein (www.logmein.com) - requires installation of
the Logmein software on the workstation. I use this for standalone or
peer-to-peer networks with WinXP Home Edition workstations. Will allow
"shadowing" of a session running on a LAN workstation. Haven't had to use
it on an SBS network but, in theory, it should work fine. Comes in over
port 80 so may have to adjust firewall and/or router configurations.

--
Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
===================================
"MWE Computers Services" <mwecomputers@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uOaSQbs5FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Quote:
The reason I am asking is my client is deploying a distribution inventory
system at their main office and a number of external clients that will
produce data and upload it to the inventory system via fax and/or FTP.
Yesterday during their first deployment (I was onsite with them), the
inventory system failed on its fax interface. When I tried to remote in
while the workstation was being used (by others in the office -- so they
can
see what I am doing), they said it locked the screen. When they unlocked
it
(while I was logged in), it dropped my RWW connection to the workstation.

So if its not possible via RWW to do a shared session at the same time --
what product would you use to do what is needed for a shared session to
take
place? The workstation (inventory system) is running XP Pro + SP2 with SQL
Server 2000 installed on it.

Thanks.

-- Michael


"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xn0e9lqia1f1y15005@msnews.microsoft.com...
MWE Computers Services wrote:

I have a user that needs to take over a current session running on his
office desktop from a remote location (i.e. home, remote client site,
etc).
The programs that are current running on the desktop cannot run as a
service, thus are in an active session state. Logging off the
workstation
would terminate the session -- so that is not an option.

How can the user use RWW to connect to his desktop to take over the
current/existing session and not start a new one? (i.e. connect via RWW
and
send a CTRL-Alt-Delete to open his desktop to resume the session).

Is there something special I need to setup for the user's account to do
this?

The user just has to specify the same credentials as the session that's
been left running. XP only supports a single logon, so the user will be
reconnected to the running session, unless different credentials are
supplied in which case the user will be asked if the original session
should be terminated (if the credentials supplied are those of an
administrative privilege user - non-admins can't boot other users).

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
---------------------------------------
MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Existing session via RWW? Reply with quote

MWE Computers Services wrote:

Quote:
The reason I am asking is my client is deploying a distribution inventory
system at their main office and a number of external clients that will
produce data and upload it to the inventory system via fax and/or FTP.
Yesterday during their first deployment (I was onsite with them), the
inventory system failed on its fax interface. When I tried to remote in
while the workstation was being used (by others in the office -- so they
can
see what I am doing), they said it locked the screen. When they unlocked it
(while I was logged in), it dropped my RWW connection to the workstation.

That is expected behaviour. Only one person can use XP at a time, so
logging on via RWW locks the desktop, and unlocking it will terminate the
RWW connection.

BUT, if the user credentials being used are the same, a single continuous
session will run - any application started by a person standing at the
machine will be visible in the RWW session, changes made there will be
shown to that person when they unlock the machine.


Quote:

So if its not possible via RWW to do a shared session at the same time --
what product would you use to do what is needed for a shared session to
take
place? The workstation (inventory system) is running XP Pro + SP2 with SQL
Server 2000 installed on it.

You didn't ask for simultaneous remote and local access. You asked about a
single, continuous logon session whether accessed locally or remotely,
which RWW does give you (just not both at the same time).

Remote Assistance will let you connect to the users' session, and work
with them at the same time - they have control over what you're allowed to
do (default is view only), and can terminate the connection at any time.
This feature is intended as a support/diagnosis capability to make it
easier for IT staff to assist users.

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
---------------------------------------
MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
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mwecomputers



Joined: 11 Jul 2005
Posts: 73
Location: Blackshear, GA USA

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Existing session via RWW? Reply with quote

The TightVNC option worked the best. The inventory system can be easily
seen, not only by myself via RWW to the SBS server but by the off-site, 3rd
party application developers as well. Suprised to took about 15 minutes to
setup (i.e. install, configure, add to McAfee exclusion list, etc). Very
nice!

-- Michael


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uU9MQgs5FHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Hi Michael,

Since only 1 user can have an active session in Windows XP at a time, I'm
thinking RWW won't be a solution for a shared session. However, you
could:

1. VPN into the Server and then fire up a VNC session (I use TightVNC)
targeted at the LAN WinXP workstation - requires that the workstation be
set
up as a VNC "server".

2. Use a service like Logmein (www.logmein.com) - requires installation
of
the Logmein software on the workstation. I use this for standalone or
peer-to-peer networks with WinXP Home Edition workstations. Will allow
"shadowing" of a session running on a LAN workstation. Haven't had to use
it on an SBS network but, in theory, it should work fine. Comes in over
port 80 so may have to adjust firewall and/or router configurations.

--
Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
===================================
"MWE Computers Services" <mwecomputers@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uOaSQbs5FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
The reason I am asking is my client is deploying a distribution
inventory
system at their main office and a number of external clients that will
produce data and upload it to the inventory system via fax and/or FTP.
Yesterday during their first deployment (I was onsite with them), the
inventory system failed on its fax interface. When I tried to remote in
while the workstation was being used (by others in the office -- so they
can
see what I am doing), they said it locked the screen. When they unlocked
it
(while I was logged in), it dropped my RWW connection to the
workstation.

So if its not possible via RWW to do a shared session at the same
time --
what product would you use to do what is needed for a shared session to
take
place? The workstation (inventory system) is running XP Pro + SP2 with
SQL
Server 2000 installed on it.

Thanks.

-- Michael


"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xn0e9lqia1f1y15005@msnews.microsoft.com...
MWE Computers Services wrote:

I have a user that needs to take over a current session running on his
office desktop from a remote location (i.e. home, remote client site,
etc).
The programs that are current running on the desktop cannot run as a
service, thus are in an active session state. Logging off the
workstation
would terminate the session -- so that is not an option.

How can the user use RWW to connect to his desktop to take over the
current/existing session and not start a new one? (i.e. connect via
RWW
and
send a CTRL-Alt-Delete to open his desktop to resume the session).

Is there something special I need to setup for the user's account to
do
this?

The user just has to specify the same credentials as the session that's
been left running. XP only supports a single logon, so the user will be
reconnected to the running session, unless different credentials are
supplied in which case the user will be asked if the original session
should be terminated (if the credentials supplied are those of an
administrative privilege user - non-admins can't boot other users).

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
---------------------------------------
MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.



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