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Rick
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Source Groups-Content Reply with quote

After adding a new Portal Site we have found the "search" is listing contents
from all portals. This is a medium Server Farm which we are attempting to do
searches at a site level on down instead of searching all sites. I'll be
glad to answer any questions. Can anyone give me some direction?
--
Rick Ankrom
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Steve Smith
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Source Groups-Content Reply with quote

Maybe a product like Ontolica then ?
http://www.ontolica.com/Products/OntolicaForSharePoint/OntolicaForSharePointHome.html

Steve Smith

UK Sharepoint Training
http://www.combined-knowledge.com/sharepoint_knowledge_tracks.htm


"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Awesome page Shane! I'm pretty familiar with how to setup these areas.
My
question comes down to using the search function on each Portal Site to
only
search that site and everything below it. It seems that the Search
funtion
works from the top level down and is not cusomizable per site level. I'm
looking for a way to customize the search level for example: Main Site
"portal.contoso.com", sub sites, accounting/research/engineering. When I
go
to the engineering portal and use the search function it returns content
from
portal.contose.com and all portal sites instead of just engineering and
any
subsites from it. Hope that better explains what I'm needing
--
Rick Ankrom
MCSE, MCDBA, MCSA, Security +


"Shane Young [SPS MVP]" wrote:

Does this help? http://msmvps.com/shane/archive/2005/11/08/74931.aspx



--
Shane Young - SPS MVP
SharePoint911 - http://www.SharePoint911.com
Blog - http://msmvps.com/shane/



"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A48C2156-199B-448D-87F9-FB52DE270033@microsoft.com...
After adding a new Portal Site we have found the "search" is listing
contents
from all portals. This is a medium Server Farm which we are attempting
to
do
searches at a site level on down instead of searching all sites. I'll
be
glad to answer any questions. Can anyone give me some direction?
--
Rick Ankrom


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Rick
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Source Groups-Content Reply with quote

One additional note: I have setup the Exclude/Include rule to hit the
engineering.portal.contosa.com to be included but it automatically puts in an
include for the portal.contosa.com as well. I can not exclude the top down
level...which is what I'm running into as an issue.
--
Rick Ankrom
MCSE, MCDBA, MCSA, Security +


"Shane Young [SPS MVP]" wrote:

Quote:
Does this help? http://msmvps.com/shane/archive/2005/11/08/74931.aspx



--
Shane Young - SPS MVP
SharePoint911 - http://www.SharePoint911.com
Blog - http://msmvps.com/shane/



"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A48C2156-199B-448D-87F9-FB52DE270033@microsoft.com...
After adding a new Portal Site we have found the "search" is listing
contents
from all portals. This is a medium Server Farm which we are attempting to
do
searches at a site level on down instead of searching all sites. I'll be
glad to answer any questions. Can anyone give me some direction?
--
Rick Ankrom


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Rick
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Source Groups-Content Reply with quote

Awesome page Shane! I'm pretty familiar with how to setup these areas. My
question comes down to using the search function on each Portal Site to only
search that site and everything below it. It seems that the Search funtion
works from the top level down and is not cusomizable per site level. I'm
looking for a way to customize the search level for example: Main Site
"portal.contoso.com", sub sites, accounting/research/engineering. When I go
to the engineering portal and use the search function it returns content from
portal.contose.com and all portal sites instead of just engineering and any
subsites from it. Hope that better explains what I'm needing
--
Rick Ankrom
MCSE, MCDBA, MCSA, Security +


"Shane Young [SPS MVP]" wrote:

Quote:
Does this help? http://msmvps.com/shane/archive/2005/11/08/74931.aspx



--
Shane Young - SPS MVP
SharePoint911 - http://www.SharePoint911.com
Blog - http://msmvps.com/shane/



"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A48C2156-199B-448D-87F9-FB52DE270033@microsoft.com...
After adding a new Portal Site we have found the "search" is listing
contents
from all portals. This is a medium Server Farm which we are attempting to
do
searches at a site level on down instead of searching all sites. I'll be
glad to answer any questions. Can anyone give me some direction?
--
Rick Ankrom


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Shane Young [SPS MVP]
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Source Groups-Content Reply with quote

Does this help? http://msmvps.com/shane/archive/2005/11/08/74931.aspx



--
Shane Young - SPS MVP
SharePoint911 - http://www.SharePoint911.com
Blog - http://msmvps.com/shane/



"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A48C2156-199B-448D-87F9-FB52DE270033@microsoft.com...
Quote:
After adding a new Portal Site we have found the "search" is listing
contents
from all portals. This is a medium Server Farm which we are attempting to
do
searches at a site level on down instead of searching all sites. I'll be
glad to answer any questions. Can anyone give me some direction?
--
Rick Ankrom
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Steve Smith
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Source Groups-Content Reply with quote

Search can be customized to include whatever content you wish to be crawled
and also has the ability to create new scopes and source groups that defines
what results each search query will return. I therefore suggest you have a
look at creating some new content sources and also search scopes. With the
addition of having included and excluded content in those content sources
you can setup have very accurate search result options.

Have a look at this whitepaper for a good introduction to this :
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/office/sps2003/maintain/sccon-sd.mspx

Also have a read of the search section in the Administrator guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=47405143-F586-4941-92F5-048BF00CF332&displaylang=en

Steve Smith

UK Sharepoint Training
http://www.combined-knowledge.com/sharepoint_knowledge_tracks.htm


"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A48C2156-199B-448D-87F9-FB52DE270033@microsoft.com...
Quote:
After adding a new Portal Site we have found the "search" is listing
contents
from all portals. This is a medium Server Farm which we are attempting to
do
searches at a site level on down instead of searching all sites. I'll be
glad to answer any questions. Can anyone give me some direction?
--
Rick Ankrom
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Kevin Laahs
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Source Groups-Content Reply with quote

Are you using Shared Services? If so then an "All sources" search from the
parent site will indeed show all child sites. But, searches from child sites
should just show their own content UNLESS you have used the "use search
scope from another site" option. That option allows you to build a
hierarchical search experience over a tree of child sites.

"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7B74001D-F640-4699-B332-6F85C35664E8@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Awesome page Shane! I'm pretty familiar with how to setup these areas.
My
question comes down to using the search function on each Portal Site to
only
search that site and everything below it. It seems that the Search
funtion
works from the top level down and is not cusomizable per site level. I'm
looking for a way to customize the search level for example: Main Site
"portal.contoso.com", sub sites, accounting/research/engineering. When I
go
to the engineering portal and use the search function it returns content
from
portal.contose.com and all portal sites instead of just engineering and
any
subsites from it. Hope that better explains what I'm needing
--
Rick Ankrom
MCSE, MCDBA, MCSA, Security +


"Shane Young [SPS MVP]" wrote:

Does this help? http://msmvps.com/shane/archive/2005/11/08/74931.aspx



--
Shane Young - SPS MVP
SharePoint911 - http://www.SharePoint911.com
Blog - http://msmvps.com/shane/



"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A48C2156-199B-448D-87F9-FB52DE270033@microsoft.com...
After adding a new Portal Site we have found the "search" is listing
contents
from all portals. This is a medium Server Farm which we are attempting
to
do
searches at a site level on down instead of searching all sites. I'll
be
glad to answer any questions. Can anyone give me some direction?
--
Rick Ankrom


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Hollis D. Paul
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Source Groups-Content Reply with quote

In article <uUTtceU5FHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>, Shane Young [SPS
MVP] wrote:
Quote:
Does this help? http://msmvps.com/shane/archive/2005/11/08/74931.aspx

Shane, I posted the following feedback to your page. Actually, got

through the captcha filter once.

" The relationship between indexes and content sources is one index can
have multiple content sources but a content source can only belong to
one index. " While technically correct, that statement can be
misleading. You can put the same content url into two different
SharePoint content source objects, and have the same content in two
different indexes. That is one way I test new approaches to indexing the
dotText blogs. I have one procedure that works quite well in one content
source object, and the same source URL in the trial/test content source
and I don't lose my working index when I reset the trial/test index. It
seems like we bandy these words around like magicians handkerchiefs and
white doves, which come and go as we manipulate the user. But, keeping
track of the real objects is very useful.

Hollis D. Paul [MVP - Outlook]
Hollis@outhousebythesound.com
Mukilteo, WA USA
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Hollis D. Paul
Guest





Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Source Groups-Content Reply with quote

In article <03C95CCC-AD6F-4CC1-B16A-BC3461E5C523@microsoft.com>,
=?Utf-8?B?Umljaw==?= wrote:
Quote:
I can not exclude the top down
level...which is what I'm running into as an issue.

You have to put in excludes to all those other parts of

portal.contosa.com that you don't want. Pain in the butt, if you ask
me. The default should be to only include what you specify.

Hollis D. Paul [MVP - Outlook]
Hollis@outhousebythesound.com
Mukilteo, WA USA
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