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instauratio
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
DNS puzzle |
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2 Windows Xp machines
1 windows 98 machine
1 windows 2000 server
1 windows 2003 SBS server
The new SBS server is just setup,
address is 192.168.60.5
wxyz.local domain
no machines are in the domain as of yet.
The old server is configured by someone who didn't have a clue about domains.
It's address is 192.168.60.30
DNS is setup but with a domain that is not related to this company. pb&j.com
folders are shared off of this server. For some reason this setup has worked
in workgroup with no complaints.
When I created the new server I created a new local network address,
192.168.60.0
The old server had 192.168.1.0
the day before yesterday. I changed the old server to this new 192.168.60.0
address and the three machines. I did this because the firewall/router is
now configured to use this 60.0 address with nat.
Everything is fine except the win98 machine cannont access the outside
network.
even more bizarre. I can access folders/mapped drives on the old server with
this win98 machine, but cannot ping the servers actual address??
I can ping 4.2.2.2 but half of the replies fail. It's not likely a cable
issue or hardware issue. I'm almost certain this is wins, dns, or domain
issue.
Should I remove the bogus dns domain name from this old server? I'm almost
certain that the answer is yes. I'm concerned though that I might upset the
remaining 2 users access.
Can someone please advise? I will happily supply more details but am
uncertain what more could be needed.
I've posted the ipconfig for the bad win98 and good winxp machines below
3 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C90x Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-01-02-6A-24-D4
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.60.65
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.60.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . : 192.168.60.30
Secondary WINS Server . . . : 192.168.60.5
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DGIJL
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-C6-00-A8
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.60.58
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.60.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.141.193.55
66.73.20.40
C:\Documents and Settings\> |
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:50 am Post subject:
Re: DNS puzzle |
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In news:1C8650F9-6FF6-47F5-95C9-93B8C5B293ED@microsoft.com,
instauratio <instauratio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
| Quote: | 2 Windows Xp machines
1 windows 98 machine
1 windows 2000 server
1 windows 2003 SBS server
The new SBS server is just setup,
address is 192.168.60.5
wxyz.local domain
no machines are in the domain as of yet.
The old server is configured by someone who didn't have a clue about
domains. It's address is 192.168.60.30
DNS is setup but with a domain that is not related to this company.
pb&j.com folders are shared off of this server. For some reason this
setup has worked in workgroup with no complaints.
When I created the new server I created a new local network address,
192.168.60.0
The old server had 192.168.1.0
the day before yesterday. I changed the old server to this new
192.168.60.0 address and the three machines. I did this because the
firewall/router is now configured to use this 60.0 address with nat.
Everything is fine except the win98 machine cannont access the outside
network.
even more bizarre. I can access folders/mapped drives on the old
server with this win98 machine, but cannot ping the servers actual
address??
I can ping 4.2.2.2 but half of the replies fail. It's not likely a
cable issue or hardware issue. I'm almost certain this is wins, dns,
or domain issue.
Should I remove the bogus dns domain name from this old server? I'm
almost certain that the answer is yes. I'm concerned though that I
might upset the remaining 2 users access.
Can someone please advise? I will happily supply more details but am
uncertain what more could be needed.
I've posted the ipconfig for the bad win98 and good winxp machines
below
3 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C90x Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-01-02-6A-24-D4
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.60.65
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.60.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . : 192.168.60.30
Secondary WINS Server . . . : 192.168.60.5
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DGIJL
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-C6-00-A8
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.60.58
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.60.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.141.193.55
66.73.20.40
C:\Documents and Settings\
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Well, the first main thing is to ONLY use your internal DNS server IP
address in your IP properties. I didn't see even see a DNS address in the
Win98 machine's properties. The XP machine is using the ISP's. If you have
an AD domain, it should use the SBS server as the DNS address, provided it;s
setup properly.
Also, pb&j.com has an illegal character in it, the "&" character. I am not
sure how DNS will handle this and would be surprised there hasn't been any
errors associated wtih it. But I am curious, what does this statement mean?
"pb&j.com folders are shared off of this server."
What folders? How is that domain name being used to share folders?
--
Ace
This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.
If this post is viewed at a non-Microsoft community website, and you were to
respond to it through that community's website, I may not see your reply
unless that website posts replies back to the original Microsoft forum.
Therefore, please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroup
this thread originated in so all can benefit or ensure the web community
posts it back to the original forum.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer
Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations.
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instauratio
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:
Re: DNS puzzle |
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Thanks Ace! I didn't explain my problem very well. Part of it is due to my
own ignorance. I was trying to be cute by calling the example domain pb&j. I
don't believe anyone would actually use this for a domain name.
The problems that you described with the setup are being remedied. I am only
working with this network to bring it to a normal state.
The issue that caused me to post this in the first place has been solved. It
turns out the 98 machine had some other nic's that were conflicting with the
one I needed. When, after they were removed, everything worked fine.
thanks for taking the time to read and address my post!
"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:
| Quote: | In news:1C8650F9-6FF6-47F5-95C9-93B8C5B293ED@microsoft.com,
instauratio <instauratio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
2 Windows Xp machines
1 windows 98 machine
1 windows 2000 server
1 windows 2003 SBS server
The new SBS server is just setup,
address is 192.168.60.5
wxyz.local domain
no machines are in the domain as of yet.
The old server is configured by someone who didn't have a clue about
domains. It's address is 192.168.60.30
DNS is setup but with a domain that is not related to this company.
pb&j.com folders are shared off of this server. For some reason this
setup has worked in workgroup with no complaints.
When I created the new server I created a new local network address,
192.168.60.0
The old server had 192.168.1.0
the day before yesterday. I changed the old server to this new
192.168.60.0 address and the three machines. I did this because the
firewall/router is now configured to use this 60.0 address with nat.
Everything is fine except the win98 machine cannont access the outside
network.
even more bizarre. I can access folders/mapped drives on the old
server with this win98 machine, but cannot ping the servers actual
address??
I can ping 4.2.2.2 but half of the replies fail. It's not likely a
cable issue or hardware issue. I'm almost certain this is wins, dns,
or domain issue.
Should I remove the bogus dns domain name from this old server? I'm
almost certain that the answer is yes. I'm concerned though that I
might upset the remaining 2 users access.
Can someone please advise? I will happily supply more details but am
uncertain what more could be needed.
I've posted the ipconfig for the bad win98 and good winxp machines
below
3 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C90x Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-01-02-6A-24-D4
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.60.65
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.60.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . : 192.168.60.30
Secondary WINS Server . . . : 192.168.60.5
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DGIJL
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-C6-00-A8
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.60.58
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.60.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.141.193.55
66.73.20.40
C:\Documents and Settings\
Well, the first main thing is to ONLY use your internal DNS server IP
address in your IP properties. I didn't see even see a DNS address in the
Win98 machine's properties. The XP machine is using the ISP's. If you have
an AD domain, it should use the SBS server as the DNS address, provided it;s
setup properly.
Also, pb&j.com has an illegal character in it, the "&" character. I am not
sure how DNS will handle this and would be surprised there hasn't been any
errors associated wtih it. But I am curious, what does this statement mean?
"pb&j.com folders are shared off of this server."
What folders? How is that domain name being used to share folders?
--
Ace
This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.
If this post is viewed at a non-Microsoft community website, and you were to
respond to it through that community's website, I may not see your reply
unless that website posts replies back to the original Microsoft forum.
Therefore, please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroup
this thread originated in so all can benefit or ensure the web community
posts it back to the original forum.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer
Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations.
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:50 am Post subject:
Re: DNS puzzle |
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In news:48511B46-8CA8-4F78-8F9A-28E24ADF6E2E@microsoft.com,
instauratio <instauratio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
| Quote: | Thanks Ace! I didn't explain my problem very well. Part of it is due
to my own ignorance. I was trying to be cute by calling the example
domain pb&j. I don't believe anyone would actually use this for a
domain name.
The problems that you described with the setup are being remedied. I
am only working with this network to bring it to a normal state.
The issue that caused me to post this in the first place has been
solved. It turns out the 98 machine had some other nic's that were
conflicting with the one I needed. When, after they were removed,
everything worked fine.
thanks for taking the time to read and address my post!
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It was a pleasure sir. Good to hear you have resolved the 98 issues.
Now, I'm off to make a pb&j and a glass of chocolate milk.
Then again, a shot of Crown and a cold Coors Lite sounds good right about
now...
:-)
Ace |
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