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anoni
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Posted:
Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
cluster group |
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I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any benefit to put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by defaut, is it in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive more than 2tb on
one partition?
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Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
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Posted:
Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:43 am Post subject:
Re: cluster group |
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Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess with it. To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and should be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only what it sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any benefit to put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by defaut, is it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive more than 2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks |
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anoni
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Posted:
Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:
Re: cluster group |
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By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the shared data disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
| Quote: | Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess with it. To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and should be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only what it sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any benefit to put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by defaut, is it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive more than 2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
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Posted:
Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:
Re: cluster group |
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That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then second in
group 1, etc.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the shared data
disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess with it. To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and should
be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only what it
sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any benefit to
put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by defaut, is
it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive more than
2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
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Posted:
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject:
Re: cluster group |
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You can always rename a group (though I would not rename the cluster group).
Keep the cluster group as it is. Move your Group 1 disk to Group 0 if you
like and use them from that Group.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:118A71A7-286D-44AA-B75F-F6537C638132@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to cluster
group?
I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then second in
group 1, etc.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@microsoft.com...
By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the shared
data
disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess with it.
To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and
should
be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only what it
sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any benefit to
put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by defaut,
is
it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive more than
2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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anoni
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Posted:
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject:
Re: cluster group |
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will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to cluster group?
I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
| Quote: | That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then second in
group 1, etc.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@microsoft.com...
By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the shared data
disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess with it. To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and should
be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only what it
sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any benefit to
put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by defaut, is
it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive more than
2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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anoni
Guest
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Posted:
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
Re: cluster group |
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When I’m testing my clustered servers by breaking network connectivity
(unplug the pub cables. I am using teamed nic), the cluster group failover
the secondary server, but not group 0 which contain the shared disk. When I
move the shared disk from group 0 to cluster group, the shared disk (or
drive) will failover just fine, any reasons?
I did a few other tests, all of them failed over ok.
Thanks.
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
| Quote: | You can always rename a group (though I would not rename the cluster group).
Keep the cluster group as it is. Move your Group 1 disk to Group 0 if you
like and use them from that Group.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:118A71A7-286D-44AA-B75F-F6537C638132@microsoft.com...
will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to cluster
group?
I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then second in
group 1, etc.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@microsoft.com...
By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the shared
data
disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess with it.
To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and
should
be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only what it
sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any benefit to
put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by defaut,
is
it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive more than
2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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Chuck Timon [MSFT]
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Posted:
Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:
Re: cluster group |
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If the heartbeat network is still connected the group with the disk will not
failover. The cluster group fails over because the IP address fails when
the public network connectivity goes away. A physical disk resource will
continue to stay online if it is the only resource in the group. It will
take all network connectivity, in this case, to get the 'lone' disk in the
group to fail over.
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6DF329ED-01F3-4621-A9A8-E9D71BCEABF6@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | When I'm testing my clustered servers by breaking network connectivity
(unplug the pub cables. I am using teamed nic), the cluster group failover
the secondary server, but not group 0 which contain the shared disk. When
I
move the shared disk from group 0 to cluster group, the shared disk (or
drive) will failover just fine, any reasons?
I did a few other tests, all of them failed over ok.
Thanks.
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
You can always rename a group (though I would not rename the cluster
group).
Keep the cluster group as it is. Move your Group 1 disk to Group 0 if you
like and use them from that Group.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:118A71A7-286D-44AA-B75F-F6537C638132@microsoft.com...
will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to cluster
group?
I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then second
in
group 1, etc.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@microsoft.com...
By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the shared
data
disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess with
it.
To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and
should
be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only what
it
sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any benefit
to
put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by
defaut,
is
it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive more
than
2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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anoni
Guest
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Posted:
Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject:
Re: cluster group |
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Is there anyway to make the 'lone' disk failed over with the cluster group
when the network connectivity stopped?
According MS doc, it should. it did not mention anything as all network
connectivity need to be failed which include private
Thanks.
"Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
| Quote: | If the heartbeat network is still connected the group with the disk will not
failover. The cluster group fails over because the IP address fails when
the public network connectivity goes away. A physical disk resource will
continue to stay online if it is the only resource in the group. It will
take all network connectivity, in this case, to get the 'lone' disk in the
group to fail over.
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6DF329ED-01F3-4621-A9A8-E9D71BCEABF6@microsoft.com...
When I'm testing my clustered servers by breaking network connectivity
(unplug the pub cables. I am using teamed nic), the cluster group failover
the secondary server, but not group 0 which contain the shared disk. When
I
move the shared disk from group 0 to cluster group, the shared disk (or
drive) will failover just fine, any reasons?
I did a few other tests, all of them failed over ok.
Thanks.
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
You can always rename a group (though I would not rename the cluster
group).
Keep the cluster group as it is. Move your Group 1 disk to Group 0 if you
like and use them from that Group.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:118A71A7-286D-44AA-B75F-F6537C638132@microsoft.com...
will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to cluster
group?
I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then second
in
group 1, etc.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@microsoft.com...
By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the shared
data
disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess with
it.
To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and
should
be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only what
it
sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any benefit
to
put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by
defaut,
is
it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive more
than
2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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anoni
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Posted:
Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject:
Re: cluster group |
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So, it is by design to not failed over the phsical disk when network pub
network connectivity stopped. Will the shared physical disk resource
availiable while the active node lost network connection? And will cluster
service stop function?
what would happen if i move the shared disk to the cluster group? It failed
over just fine when did moved. Does MS recommand it to do so?
Thanks.
"Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
| Quote: | If the heartbeat network is still connected the group with the disk will not
failover. The cluster group fails over because the IP address fails when
the public network connectivity goes away. A physical disk resource will
continue to stay online if it is the only resource in the group. It will
take all network connectivity, in this case, to get the 'lone' disk in the
group to fail over.
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6DF329ED-01F3-4621-A9A8-E9D71BCEABF6@microsoft.com...
When I'm testing my clustered servers by breaking network connectivity
(unplug the pub cables. I am using teamed nic), the cluster group failover
the secondary server, but not group 0 which contain the shared disk. When
I
move the shared disk from group 0 to cluster group, the shared disk (or
drive) will failover just fine, any reasons?
I did a few other tests, all of them failed over ok.
Thanks.
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
You can always rename a group (though I would not rename the cluster
group).
Keep the cluster group as it is. Move your Group 1 disk to Group 0 if you
like and use them from that Group.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:118A71A7-286D-44AA-B75F-F6537C638132@microsoft.com...
will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to cluster
group?
I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then second
in
group 1, etc.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@microsoft.com...
By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the shared
data
disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess with
it.
To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and
should
be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only what
it
sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any benefit
to
put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by
defaut,
is
it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive more
than
2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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Chuck Timon [MSFT]
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Posted:
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
Re: cluster group |
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All networks designated for cluster use on the node where the disk is online
would have to fail so a regroup could be initiated and another node in the
cluster could arbitrate for the resource and bring it online.
I'm a little confused as to why a group would contain a single disk resource
and nothing else. We used to do this with the quorum drive in NT 4. Now we
do it with the full expectation the lone disks will be either moved into
another group, or will be joined by other resources that can be used to
access the data that is stored on it (e.g. IP address, Network Name, File
Share Resource, Print Spooler, SQL, Exchange, etc...)
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DA93058-C334-4B46-875C-B33D04DA795F@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Is there anyway to make the 'lone' disk failed over with the cluster group
when the network connectivity stopped?
According MS doc, it should. it did not mention anything as all network
connectivity need to be failed which include private
Thanks.
"Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
If the heartbeat network is still connected the group with the disk will
not
failover. The cluster group fails over because the IP address fails when
the public network connectivity goes away. A physical disk resource will
continue to stay online if it is the only resource in the group. It will
take all network connectivity, in this case, to get the 'lone' disk in
the
group to fail over.
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6DF329ED-01F3-4621-A9A8-E9D71BCEABF6@microsoft.com...
When I'm testing my clustered servers by breaking network connectivity
(unplug the pub cables. I am using teamed nic), the cluster group
failover
the secondary server, but not group 0 which contain the shared disk.
When
I
move the shared disk from group 0 to cluster group, the shared disk (or
drive) will failover just fine, any reasons?
I did a few other tests, all of them failed over ok.
Thanks.
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
You can always rename a group (though I would not rename the cluster
group).
Keep the cluster group as it is. Move your Group 1 disk to Group 0 if
you
like and use them from that Group.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:118A71A7-286D-44AA-B75F-F6537C638132@microsoft.com...
will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to
cluster
group?
I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then
second
in
group 1, etc.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the
shared
data
disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess
with
it.
To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left
alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and
should
be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only
what
it
sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any
benefit
to
put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by
defaut,
is
it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive
more
than
2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
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Currently config
Cluster group: Cluster IP Address
Cluster Name
Disk Q: (quorum).
Group 0: disk s: physical disk
Data file Share
I need group 0 to be able to failover along with the cluster group when I
disconnected the pub nic cables.
When I move the group 0 resources to cluster group, it failed over just
fine. But not when I place the resources in the group 0, it won’t failover
with the cluster group.
Thanks.
"Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
| Quote: | All networks designated for cluster use on the node where the disk is online
would have to fail so a regroup could be initiated and another node in the
cluster could arbitrate for the resource and bring it online.
I'm a little confused as to why a group would contain a single disk resource
and nothing else. We used to do this with the quorum drive in NT 4. Now we
do it with the full expectation the lone disks will be either moved into
another group, or will be joined by other resources that can be used to
access the data that is stored on it (e.g. IP address, Network Name, File
Share Resource, Print Spooler, SQL, Exchange, etc...)
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DA93058-C334-4B46-875C-B33D04DA795F@microsoft.com...
Is there anyway to make the 'lone' disk failed over with the cluster group
when the network connectivity stopped?
According MS doc, it should. it did not mention anything as all network
connectivity need to be failed which include private
Thanks.
"Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
If the heartbeat network is still connected the group with the disk will
not
failover. The cluster group fails over because the IP address fails when
the public network connectivity goes away. A physical disk resource will
continue to stay online if it is the only resource in the group. It will
take all network connectivity, in this case, to get the 'lone' disk in
the
group to fail over.
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6DF329ED-01F3-4621-A9A8-E9D71BCEABF6@microsoft.com...
When I'm testing my clustered servers by breaking network connectivity
(unplug the pub cables. I am using teamed nic), the cluster group
failover
the secondary server, but not group 0 which contain the shared disk.
When
I
move the shared disk from group 0 to cluster group, the shared disk (or
drive) will failover just fine, any reasons?
I did a few other tests, all of them failed over ok.
Thanks.
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
You can always rename a group (though I would not rename the cluster
group).
Keep the cluster group as it is. Move your Group 1 disk to Group 0 if
you
like and use them from that Group.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:118A71A7-286D-44AA-B75F-F6537C638132@microsoft.com...
will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to
cluster
group?
I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then
second
in
group 1, etc.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@microsoft.com...
By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the
shared
data
disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess
with
it.
To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left
alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and
should
be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only
what
it
sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any
benefit
to
put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by
defaut,
is
it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive
more
than
2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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Posted:
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
Re: cluster group |
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Do I need to add another ip and cluster name for the group 0 in order to
failover correctly?
"anoni" wrote:
| Quote: | Currently config
Cluster group: Cluster IP Address
Cluster Name
Disk Q: (quorum).
Group 0: disk s: physical disk
Data file Share
I need group 0 to be able to failover along with the cluster group when I
disconnected the pub nic cables.
When I move the group 0 resources to cluster group, it failed over just
fine. But not when I place the resources in the group 0, it won’t failover
with the cluster group.
Thanks.
"Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
All networks designated for cluster use on the node where the disk is online
would have to fail so a regroup could be initiated and another node in the
cluster could arbitrate for the resource and bring it online.
I'm a little confused as to why a group would contain a single disk resource
and nothing else. We used to do this with the quorum drive in NT 4. Now we
do it with the full expectation the lone disks will be either moved into
another group, or will be joined by other resources that can be used to
access the data that is stored on it (e.g. IP address, Network Name, File
Share Resource, Print Spooler, SQL, Exchange, etc...)
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DA93058-C334-4B46-875C-B33D04DA795F@microsoft.com...
Is there anyway to make the 'lone' disk failed over with the cluster group
when the network connectivity stopped?
According MS doc, it should. it did not mention anything as all network
connectivity need to be failed which include private
Thanks.
"Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
If the heartbeat network is still connected the group with the disk will
not
failover. The cluster group fails over because the IP address fails when
the public network connectivity goes away. A physical disk resource will
continue to stay online if it is the only resource in the group. It will
take all network connectivity, in this case, to get the 'lone' disk in
the
group to fail over.
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6DF329ED-01F3-4621-A9A8-E9D71BCEABF6@microsoft.com...
When I'm testing my clustered servers by breaking network connectivity
(unplug the pub cables. I am using teamed nic), the cluster group
failover
the secondary server, but not group 0 which contain the shared disk.
When
I
move the shared disk from group 0 to cluster group, the shared disk (or
drive) will failover just fine, any reasons?
I did a few other tests, all of them failed over ok.
Thanks.
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
You can always rename a group (though I would not rename the cluster
group).
Keep the cluster group as it is. Move your Group 1 disk to Group 0 if
you
like and use them from that Group.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:118A71A7-286D-44AA-B75F-F6537C638132@microsoft.com...
will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to
cluster
group?
I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then
second
in
group 1, etc.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@microsoft.com...
By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the
shared
data
disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't mess
with
it.
To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be left
alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a mistake and
should
be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions, only
what
it
sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any
benefit
to
put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services? by
defaut,
is
it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared drive
more
than
2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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Chuck Timon [MSFT]
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Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
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That is correct and here is a reference KB for you -
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q224/9/67.ASP&NoWebContent=1
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:273727EC-AA5C-45EE-96AF-8CE338DB915E@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Do I need to add another ip and cluster name for the group 0 in order to
failover correctly?
"anoni" wrote:
Currently config
Cluster group: Cluster IP Address
Cluster Name
Disk Q: (quorum).
Group 0: disk s: physical disk
Data file Share
I need group 0 to be able to failover along with the cluster group when I
disconnected the pub nic cables.
When I move the group 0 resources to cluster group, it failed over just
fine. But not when I place the resources in the group 0, it won't
failover
with the cluster group.
Thanks.
"Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
All networks designated for cluster use on the node where the disk is
online
would have to fail so a regroup could be initiated and another node in
the
cluster could arbitrate for the resource and bring it online.
I'm a little confused as to why a group would contain a single disk
resource
and nothing else. We used to do this with the quorum drive in NT 4.
Now we
do it with the full expectation the lone disks will be either moved
into
another group, or will be joined by other resources that can be used to
access the data that is stored on it (e.g. IP address, Network Name,
File
Share Resource, Print Spooler, SQL, Exchange, etc...)
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DA93058-C334-4B46-875C-B33D04DA795F@microsoft.com...
Is there anyway to make the 'lone' disk failed over with the cluster
group
when the network connectivity stopped?
According MS doc, it should. it did not mention anything as all
network
connectivity need to be failed which include private
Thanks.
"Chuck Timon [MSFT]" wrote:
If the heartbeat network is still connected the group with the disk
will
not
failover. The cluster group fails over because the IP address fails
when
the public network connectivity goes away. A physical disk resource
will
continue to stay online if it is the only resource in the group. It
will
take all network connectivity, in this case, to get the 'lone' disk
in
the
group to fail over.
--
Chuck Timon, Jr.
Microsoft Corporation
CCS Beta Engineer
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties, and confers no rights.
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6DF329ED-01F3-4621-A9A8-E9D71BCEABF6@microsoft.com...
When I'm testing my clustered servers by breaking network
connectivity
(unplug the pub cables. I am using teamed nic), the cluster group
failover
the secondary server, but not group 0 which contain the shared
disk.
When
I
move the shared disk from group 0 to cluster group, the shared
disk (or
drive) will failover just fine, any reasons?
I did a few other tests, all of them failed over ok.
Thanks.
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
You can always rename a group (though I would not rename the
cluster
group).
Keep the cluster group as it is. Move your Group 1 disk to Group
0 if
you
like and use them from that Group.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:118A71A7-286D-44AA-B75F-F6537C638132@microsoft.com...
will the cluster services stop working if I move the disk1 to
cluster
group?
I assume I can rename group 0 to a more meaningful name. right?
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
That is the way they programmed it. First disk = group 0, then
second
in
group 1, etc.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97DDE189-7C16-4368-8F85-5334EB138E83@microsoft.com...
By default, the quorum disk is in the default group, and the
shared
data
disk
in the group 0, any reasons?
Thanks
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Best practice is to leave the cluster group alone, don't
mess
with
it.
To
keep your system highly available the group needs to be
left
alone.
If you see another drive in the cluster group, its a
mistake and
should
be
fixed :)
Clustering does not understand or carry about partitions,
only
what
it
sees
as physical disks.
Can you actually restore a 2TB disk in a timely fashion?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"anoni" <anoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D6261DF-E175-4393-8AE5-031E76D33161@microsoft.com...
I have a quorum drive and shared data drive, are there any
benefit
to
put
them in differ groups when I configure cluster services?
by
defaut,
is
it
in
cluster group? Is there anyway I can have the shared
drive
more
than
2tb
on
one partition?
Thanks
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