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Peter B
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:24 pm    Post subject: DNS Recursive Query Test Fails Reply with quote
Hi all,

can't understand why my "DNS Recursive query test" fails, the simple test
passes
no dns error msgs in event viewer.

Info:
- DNS name "format": mycompanyname.city.local (server not on internet)
- main dc, wins/ad/dhcp/dns installed
- 2nd dc, doesn't have dns installed as backup as of yet.

any help appreciated
thanks in advance
Peter
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Herb Martin
Guest
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS Recursive Query Test Fails Reply with quote
"Peter B" <___deadrattie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#xzrr7x#EHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Hi all,

can't understand why my "DNS Recursive query test" fails, the simple test
passes
no dns error msgs in event viewer.

This is fairly common since the recursive test
depends on having a VALID "root hints" (root
server list) and being able to reach that root and
recurse.


Quote:
Info:
- DNS name "format": mycompanyname.city.local (server not on internet)

Which makes it even more likely you would fail a
recursive test IF the root hints were still set to the
Internet (default) set -- and are in fact unreachable.

Quote:
- main dc, wins/ad/dhcp/dns installed
- 2nd dc, doesn't have dns installed as backup as of yet.



--
Herb Martin


Quote:

any help appreciated
thanks in advance
Peter

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Peter B
Guest
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS Recursive Query Test Fails Reply with quote
Hi Herb,
thanks for that information.

can this be safely ignored or should i alter some settings to get this test
to pass.

to answer your question: "IF the root hints were still set to the Internet
(default) set ", -> yes they are still the defaults as dns setup, i have
made no changes to the dns system, its the way w3k/ads installed and set it
up.

Thanks in advance
Peter


"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message
news:OGXKg2y%23EHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Quote:
"Peter B" <___deadrattie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#xzrr7x#EHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Hi all,

can't understand why my "DNS Recursive query test" fails, the simple
test
passes
no dns error msgs in event viewer.

This is fairly common since the recursive test
depends on having a VALID "root hints" (root
server list) and being able to reach that root and
recurse.


Info:
- DNS name "format": mycompanyname.city.local (server not on internet)

Which makes it even more likely you would fail a
recursive test IF the root hints were still set to the
Internet (default) set -- and are in fact unreachable.

- main dc, wins/ad/dhcp/dns installed
- 2nd dc, doesn't have dns installed as backup as of yet.



--
Herb Martin



any help appreciated
thanks in advance
Peter



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Herb Martin
Guest
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS Recursive Query Test Fails Reply with quote
"Peter B" <___deadrattie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OjSjZ18#EHA.2984@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Hi Herb,
thanks for that information.

can this be safely ignored or should i alter some settings to get this
test
to pass.

YES, IF everything you need to work is working.

Quote:
to answer your question: "IF the root hints were still set to the Internet
(default) set ", -> yes they are still the defaults as dns setup, i have
made no changes to the dns system, its the way w3k/ads installed and set
it
up.

Ok, so you have a machien that is not connected to the
Internet, but has the root hints from the Internet (which
it cannot reach), so yes it will always fail the recursive
test and this does not matter in your case.

You might speed things up a bit (if you have no other
zones on other servers -- secondaries for this zone are
FINE, or zones on this server are ok) if you go to
advanced and Disable Recursion.

BUT WARNING: If you need that recursion OR need
forwarding later, that must be RE-enabled and it is
easy to forget or to forget where the setting is located.


--
Herb Martin


Quote:

Thanks in advance
Peter


"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message
news:OGXKg2y%23EHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
"Peter B" <___deadrattie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#xzrr7x#EHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Hi all,

can't understand why my "DNS Recursive query test" fails, the simple
test
passes
no dns error msgs in event viewer.

This is fairly common since the recursive test
depends on having a VALID "root hints" (root
server list) and being able to reach that root and
recurse.


Info:
- DNS name "format": mycompanyname.city.local (server not on internet)

Which makes it even more likely you would fail a
recursive test IF the root hints were still set to the
Internet (default) set -- and are in fact unreachable.

- main dc, wins/ad/dhcp/dns installed
- 2nd dc, doesn't have dns installed as backup as of yet.



--
Herb Martin



any help appreciated
thanks in advance
Peter





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Ace Fekay [MVP]
Guest
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: DNS Recursive Query Test Fails Reply with quote
In news:OjSjZ18%23EHA.2984@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Peter B <___deadrattie@hotmail.com> made a post then I commented below
Quote:
Hi Herb,
thanks for that information.

can this be safely ignored or should i alter some settings to get
this test to pass.

to answer your question: "IF the root hints were still set to the
Internet (default) set ", -> yes they are still the defaults as dns
setup, i have made no changes to the dns system, its the way w3k/ads
installed and set it up.

Thanks in advance
Peter

Configure a forwarder. That should make it work.


--
Regards,
Ace

G O E A G L E S !!!
Please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroups
so all can benefit.

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees
and confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Windows Server - Directory Services

Security Is Like An Onion, It Has Layers
HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken;
A lifetime commitment for a pig.
--
=================================
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Peter B
Guest
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS Recursive Query Test Fails Reply with quote
Hi Herb,

thanks again for the help. yes things "seem" to be working....

this is out of my expertise, i'll probably hire someone to come in and fix
it and make sure things are setup ok.

thanks again
Peter

"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message
news:OrmXUm9%23EHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Quote:
"Peter B" <___deadrattie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OjSjZ18#EHA.2984@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Hi Herb,
thanks for that information.

can this be safely ignored or should i alter some settings to get this
test
to pass.

YES, IF everything you need to work is working.

to answer your question: "IF the root hints were still set to the
Internet
(default) set ", -> yes they are still the defaults as dns setup, i have
made no changes to the dns system, its the way w3k/ads installed and set
it
up.

Ok, so you have a machien that is not connected to the
Internet, but has the root hints from the Internet (which
it cannot reach), so yes it will always fail the recursive
test and this does not matter in your case.

You might speed things up a bit (if you have no other
zones on other servers -- secondaries for this zone are
FINE, or zones on this server are ok) if you go to
advanced and Disable Recursion.

BUT WARNING: If you need that recursion OR need
forwarding later, that must be RE-enabled and it is
easy to forget or to forget where the setting is located.


--
Herb Martin



Thanks in advance
Peter


"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message
news:OGXKg2y%23EHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
"Peter B" <___deadrattie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#xzrr7x#EHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Hi all,

can't understand why my "DNS Recursive query test" fails, the simple
test
passes
no dns error msgs in event viewer.

This is fairly common since the recursive test
depends on having a VALID "root hints" (root
server list) and being able to reach that root and
recurse.


Info:
- DNS name "format": mycompanyname.city.local (server not on
internet)

Which makes it even more likely you would fail a
recursive test IF the root hints were still set to the
Internet (default) set -- and are in fact unreachable.

- main dc, wins/ad/dhcp/dns installed
- 2nd dc, doesn't have dns installed as backup as of yet.



--
Herb Martin



any help appreciated
thanks in advance
Peter







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Peter B
Guest
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS Recursive Query Test Fails Reply with quote
Thanks Ace,
appreciated

"Ace Fekay [MVP]"
<PleaseSubstituteMyActualFirstName&LastNameHere@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:%23%23QtjZE$EHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Quote:
In news:OjSjZ18%23EHA.2984@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Peter B <___deadrattie@hotmail.com> made a post then I commented below
Hi Herb,
thanks for that information.

can this be safely ignored or should i alter some settings to get
this test to pass.

to answer your question: "IF the root hints were still set to the
Internet (default) set ", -> yes they are still the defaults as dns
setup, i have made no changes to the dns system, its the way w3k/ads
installed and set it up.

Thanks in advance
Peter

Configure a forwarder. That should make it work.


--
Regards,
Ace

G O E A G L E S !!!
Please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroups
so all can benefit.

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees
and confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Windows Server - Directory Services

Security Is Like An Onion, It Has Layers
HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken;
A lifetime commitment for a pig.
--
=================================

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Ace Fekay [MVP]
Guest
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS Recursive Query Test Fails Reply with quote
In news:uU8kGoJ$EHA.1604@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Peter B <___deadrattie@hotmail.com> made a post then I commented below
Quote:
Thanks Ace,
appreciated

My pleasure...

:-)


GO EAGLES!!
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