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Ananth Krishna
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock Reply with quote

I am doing Windows Initiated Processing. I have installed my Objects and
Remote Environments in HIS 2004 TI Manager.
I have used TI .NET dlls..(of which proxies were created and hosted in
virtual drive in IIS) Everthing seems to be fine and dandy.

After a bit of testing/ I wish to modify my remote environment. In the MMC
console; I right click Transaction Integrator (View and Operate) to expand
and choose Operation Mode to further select the 'Create/Edit' option ! but
it gives me the following message....

'User XX from Machine YYYY has already locked the configuration database for
writing. The HIP Management Console will work in the "View And Operate"
mode""

where Machine YYYY is my App Server.

I cannot do anything unless I restart my Application Server that has objects
that call these proxies in the HIS box. Once i instantiate the HIS calls
from my objects from Application; again TI gets locked by this user from the
App Server..

Why is an object instantiation putting TI in a locked mode?

Secondly I am not doing HIP..why is it saying this...(HIP Management
Console)? I am doing WIP

Help!

Cheers!
Ananth Krishna
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Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:25 am    Post subject: RE: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock Reply with quote

Hi Ananth,
hmm, this definitely should not happen :-).

The "HIP" message should really say "TI" (originally the "create/edit
vs. view" concept was only on the HIP part of the console, but then got
expanded to the whole console, I guess we just forgot to change the Info
Message when we did this).

Obviously we have tested this here, and it seems a little strange that
running your apps is locking the Config DB, as WIP apps should never call
any of the routines which would lock the Config DB; we used to have a bug
where running a HIP service could do so, but that was fixed before RTM. If
you pull your clients over to the machine on which you were running TI
Console and run them from there, do you get the same error? Are you
absolutely sure you are not starting the TI manager on the remote machine?

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com>
Subject: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:27:18 -0700
Lines: 36

I am doing Windows Initiated Processing. I have installed my Objects and
Remote Environments in HIS 2004 TI Manager.
I have used TI .NET dlls..(of which proxies were created and hosted in
virtual drive in IIS) Everthing seems to be fine and dandy.

After a bit of testing/ I wish to modify my remote environment. In the
MMC
console; I right click Transaction Integrator (View and Operate) to expand
and choose Operation Mode to further select the 'Create/Edit' option ! but
it gives me the following message....

'User XX from Machine YYYY has already locked the configuration database
for
writing. The HIP Management Console will work in the "View And Operate"
mode""

where Machine YYYY is my App Server.

I cannot do anything unless I restart my Application Server that has
objects
that call these proxies in the HIS box. Once i instantiate the HIS calls
from my objects from Application; again TI gets locked by this user from
the
App Server..

Why is an object instantiation putting TI in a locked mode?

Secondly I am not doing HIP..why is it saying this...(HIP Management
Console)? I am doing WIP

Help!

Cheers!
Ananth Krishna
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Ananth Krishna
Guest





Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock Reply with quote

Rob;

I agree it should not happen. :) The message does say HIP....Thats cool..I
dont have problem with messages but it does lock me out.

I am not calling TI from a remote machine. I am using the TI only on my HIS
machine..using Remote Desktop Connection (No other sessions)..

Basically I have

Website in Web Server > Web Service in App Server > Remoting > my VB.NET DLL
in HIS machine > Invokes TI.NET HIS proxy dll in IIS in HIS machine > CICS
program in mainframe...

I also did a bit of scouting and checked the stored procedure it calls.
Followed 'EntireWriteMode' and it checks the Write Clients table..and
master..sysprocesses.

Yes..It does seem to find spid that belongs to my app server component...

Let me know if i can give you any more information...Kinda urgent..Really
appreciate if you can give some pointers~

Cheers~
Ananth Krishna
Interlink


"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" <rob_beardsworth@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:Vh9KHgCTFHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Hi Ananth,
hmm, this definitely should not happen :-).

The "HIP" message should really say "TI" (originally the "create/edit
vs. view" concept was only on the HIP part of the console, but then got
expanded to the whole console, I guess we just forgot to change the Info
Message when we did this).

Obviously we have tested this here, and it seems a little strange that
running your apps is locking the Config DB, as WIP apps should never call
any of the routines which would lock the Config DB; we used to have a bug
where running a HIP service could do so, but that was fixed before RTM. If
you pull your clients over to the machine on which you were running TI
Console and run them from there, do you get the same error? Are you
absolutely sure you are not starting the TI manager on the remote machine?

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com
Subject: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:27:18 -0700
Lines: 36

I am doing Windows Initiated Processing. I have installed my Objects and
Remote Environments in HIS 2004 TI Manager.
I have used TI .NET dlls..(of which proxies were created and hosted in
virtual drive in IIS) Everthing seems to be fine and dandy.

After a bit of testing/ I wish to modify my remote environment. In the
MMC
console; I right click Transaction Integrator (View and Operate) to expand
and choose Operation Mode to further select the 'Create/Edit' option !
but
it gives me the following message....

'User XX from Machine YYYY has already locked the configuration database
for
writing. The HIP Management Console will work in the "View And Operate"
mode""

where Machine YYYY is my App Server.

I cannot do anything unless I restart my Application Server that has
objects
that call these proxies in the HIS box. Once i instantiate the HIS calls
from my objects from Application; again TI gets locked by this user from
the
App Server..

Why is an object instantiation putting TI in a locked mode?

Secondly I am not doing HIP..why is it saying this...(HIP Management
Console)? I am doing WIP

Help!

Cheers!
Ananth Krishna
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Ananth Krishna
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock Reply with quote

Rob;

The spid from the master..sysprocesses is not even for the MSHIS60_HIP
database. The program_name and the dbid from the master..sysprocesses
table tells me that its a different database and from .net sql client
provider.

There is no reason for this entry to be there in MSHIS60_HIP Write Clients
table.

Cheers~
Ananth





"Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eeG5AWDTFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Rob;

I agree it should not happen. :) The message does say HIP....Thats
cool..I dont have problem with messages but it does lock me out.

I am not calling TI from a remote machine. I am using the TI only on my
HIS machine..using Remote Desktop Connection (No other sessions)..

Basically I have

Website in Web Server > Web Service in App Server > Remoting > my VB.NET
DLL in HIS machine > Invokes TI.NET HIS proxy dll in IIS in HIS machine
CICS program in mainframe...

I also did a bit of scouting and checked the stored procedure it calls.
Followed 'EntireWriteMode' and it checks the Write Clients table..and
master..sysprocesses.

Yes..It does seem to find spid that belongs to my app server component...

Let me know if i can give you any more information...Kinda urgent..Really
appreciate if you can give some pointers~

Cheers~
Ananth Krishna
Interlink


"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" <rob_beardsworth@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:Vh9KHgCTFHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
Hi Ananth,
hmm, this definitely should not happen :-).

The "HIP" message should really say "TI" (originally the "create/edit
vs. view" concept was only on the HIP part of the console, but then got
expanded to the whole console, I guess we just forgot to change the Info
Message when we did this).

Obviously we have tested this here, and it seems a little strange that
running your apps is locking the Config DB, as WIP apps should never call
any of the routines which would lock the Config DB; we used to have a bug
where running a HIP service could do so, but that was fixed before RTM.
If
you pull your clients over to the machine on which you were running TI
Console and run them from there, do you get the same error? Are you
absolutely sure you are not starting the TI manager on the remote
machine?

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com
Subject: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:27:18 -0700
Lines: 36

I am doing Windows Initiated Processing. I have installed my Objects and
Remote Environments in HIS 2004 TI Manager.
I have used TI .NET dlls..(of which proxies were created and hosted in
virtual drive in IIS) Everthing seems to be fine and dandy.

After a bit of testing/ I wish to modify my remote environment. In the
MMC
console; I right click Transaction Integrator (View and Operate) to
expand
and choose Operation Mode to further select the 'Create/Edit' option !
but
it gives me the following message....

'User XX from Machine YYYY has already locked the configuration database
for
writing. The HIP Management Console will work in the "View And Operate"
mode""

where Machine YYYY is my App Server.

I cannot do anything unless I restart my Application Server that has
objects
that call these proxies in the HIS box. Once i instantiate the HIS
calls
from my objects from Application; again TI gets locked by this user from
the
App Server..

Why is an object instantiation putting TI in a locked mode?

Secondly I am not doing HIP..why is it saying this...(HIP Management
Console)? I am doing WIP

Help!

Cheers!
Ananth Krishna
Interlink







Back to top
Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]
Guest





Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock Reply with quote

Hi Ananth,
bear with me here and try the following:

make sure non of your applications are running
exit TI Manager if it is open (on all machines and TS sessions pointing to
this DB)
Delete all entries from the HIP Database Write Clients table (there should
only be one)

Now try starting stuff up and working.

Could it be that you had the TI Manager open on a TS session and then
killed the session? That would have left the spid in the write client
table, and if that spid is reused (by one of your other apps) the stored
procedure would think it was still a valid connection. We are working on
improving the Enter Write Mode functionality for our next release (sorry,
that doesn't help you right now).

In the future, make sure you always close any TI manager which is in Write
Mode. Unless of course it crashes in which case you should definitely tell
us :-)

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com>
References: <OOZiGh3SFHA.3144@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
<Vh9KHgCTFHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl>
<eeG5AWDTFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:19:05 -0700
Lines: 128

Rob;

The spid from the master..sysprocesses is not even for the MSHIS60_HIP
database. The program_name and the dbid from the master..sysprocesses
table tells me that its a different database and from .net sql client
provider.

There is no reason for this entry to be there in MSHIS60_HIP Write Clients
table.

Cheers~
Ananth





"Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eeG5AWDTFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Rob;

I agree it should not happen. :) The message does say HIP....Thats
cool..I dont have problem with messages but it does lock me out.

I am not calling TI from a remote machine. I am using the TI only on my
HIS machine..using Remote Desktop Connection (No other sessions)..

Basically I have

Website in Web Server > Web Service in App Server > Remoting > my VB.NET
DLL in HIS machine > Invokes TI.NET HIS proxy dll in IIS in HIS machine
CICS program in mainframe...

I also did a bit of scouting and checked the stored procedure it calls.
Followed 'EntireWriteMode' and it checks the Write Clients table..and
master..sysprocesses.

Yes..It does seem to find spid that belongs to my app server component...

Let me know if i can give you any more information...Kinda urgent..Really
appreciate if you can give some pointers~

Cheers~
Ananth Krishna
Interlink


"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" <rob_beardsworth@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:Vh9KHgCTFHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
Hi Ananth,
hmm, this definitely should not happen :-).

The "HIP" message should really say "TI" (originally the "create/edit
vs. view" concept was only on the HIP part of the console, but then got
expanded to the whole console, I guess we just forgot to change the Info
Message when we did this).

Obviously we have tested this here, and it seems a little strange that
running your apps is locking the Config DB, as WIP apps should never call
any of the routines which would lock the Config DB; we used to have a bug
where running a HIP service could do so, but that was fixed before RTM.
If
you pull your clients over to the machine on which you were running TI
Console and run them from there, do you get the same error? Are you
absolutely sure you are not starting the TI manager on the remote
machine?

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com
Subject: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:27:18 -0700
Lines: 36

I am doing Windows Initiated Processing. I have installed my Objects and
Remote Environments in HIS 2004 TI Manager.
I have used TI .NET dlls..(of which proxies were created and hosted in
virtual drive in IIS) Everthing seems to be fine and dandy.

After a bit of testing/ I wish to modify my remote environment. In the
MMC
console; I right click Transaction Integrator (View and Operate) to
expand
and choose Operation Mode to further select the 'Create/Edit' option !
but
it gives me the following message....

'User XX from Machine YYYY has already locked the configuration database
for
writing. The HIP Management Console will work in the "View And Operate"
mode""

where Machine YYYY is my App Server.

I cannot do anything unless I restart my Application Server that has
objects
that call these proxies in the HIS box. Once i instantiate the HIS
calls
from my objects from Application; again TI gets locked by this user from
the
App Server..

Why is an object instantiation putting TI in a locked mode?

Secondly I am not doing HIP..why is it saying this...(HIP Management
Console)? I am doing WIP

Help!

Cheers!
Ananth Krishna
Interlink







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Ananth Krishna
Guest





Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock Reply with quote

yikes! reuse spids or stolen spids! ..i still have it intermittently. this
definitely needs to be made robust. i was wary of deleting stuff out of
"write clients" table but it seems to have been spids that were reused or
stolen......

yes; i also made sure that i have only one terminal session into my HIS
box!..the thing is that message is pretty informative in the sense that it
tells me what user and what box..so i know its not due to multiple terminal
sessions with TI open into my HIS box

now; i just delete the one entry in the table whenever it happens ~

thanks for your help~ will come back here next week if it happens more~

cheers~
Ananth Krishna
Interlink Group


"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" <rob_beardsworth@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:56qK7FFTFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Hi Ananth,
bear with me here and try the following:

make sure non of your applications are running
exit TI Manager if it is open (on all machines and TS sessions pointing to
this DB)
Delete all entries from the HIP Database Write Clients table (there should
only be one)

Now try starting stuff up and working.

Could it be that you had the TI Manager open on a TS session and then
killed the session? That would have left the spid in the write client
table, and if that spid is reused (by one of your other apps) the stored
procedure would think it was still a valid connection. We are working on
improving the Enter Write Mode functionality for our next release (sorry,
that doesn't help you right now).

In the future, make sure you always close any TI manager which is in Write
Mode. Unless of course it crashes in which case you should definitely tell
us :-)

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com
References: <OOZiGh3SFHA.3144@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
Vh9KHgCTFHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
eeG5AWDTFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:19:05 -0700
Lines: 128

Rob;

The spid from the master..sysprocesses is not even for the MSHIS60_HIP
database. The program_name and the dbid from the master..sysprocesses
table tells me that its a different database and from .net sql client
provider.

There is no reason for this entry to be there in MSHIS60_HIP Write Clients
table.

Cheers~
Ananth





"Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eeG5AWDTFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Rob;

I agree it should not happen. :) The message does say HIP....Thats
cool..I dont have problem with messages but it does lock me out.

I am not calling TI from a remote machine. I am using the TI only on my
HIS machine..using Remote Desktop Connection (No other sessions)..

Basically I have

Website in Web Server > Web Service in App Server > Remoting > my VB.NET
DLL in HIS machine > Invokes TI.NET HIS proxy dll in IIS in HIS machine
CICS program in mainframe...

I also did a bit of scouting and checked the stored procedure it calls.
Followed 'EntireWriteMode' and it checks the Write Clients table..and
master..sysprocesses.

Yes..It does seem to find spid that belongs to my app server component...

Let me know if i can give you any more information...Kinda urgent..Really
appreciate if you can give some pointers~

Cheers~
Ananth Krishna
Interlink


"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" <rob_beardsworth@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:Vh9KHgCTFHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
Hi Ananth,
hmm, this definitely should not happen :-).

The "HIP" message should really say "TI" (originally the "create/edit
vs. view" concept was only on the HIP part of the console, but then got
expanded to the whole console, I guess we just forgot to change the Info
Message when we did this).

Obviously we have tested this here, and it seems a little strange that
running your apps is locking the Config DB, as WIP apps should never
call
any of the routines which would lock the Config DB; we used to have a
bug
where running a HIP service could do so, but that was fixed before RTM.
If
you pull your clients over to the machine on which you were running TI
Console and run them from there, do you get the same error? Are you
absolutely sure you are not starting the TI manager on the remote
machine?

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com
Subject: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:27:18 -0700
Lines: 36

I am doing Windows Initiated Processing. I have installed my Objects
and
Remote Environments in HIS 2004 TI Manager.
I have used TI .NET dlls..(of which proxies were created and hosted in
virtual drive in IIS) Everthing seems to be fine and dandy.

After a bit of testing/ I wish to modify my remote environment. In the
MMC
console; I right click Transaction Integrator (View and Operate) to
expand
and choose Operation Mode to further select the 'Create/Edit' option !
but
it gives me the following message....

'User XX from Machine YYYY has already locked the configuration database
for
writing. The HIP Management Console will work in the "View And Operate"
mode""

where Machine YYYY is my App Server.

I cannot do anything unless I restart my Application Server that has
objects
that call these proxies in the HIS box. Once i instantiate the HIS
calls
from my objects from Application; again TI gets locked by this user from
the
App Server..

Why is an object instantiation putting TI in a locked mode?

Secondly I am not doing HIP..why is it saying this...(HIP Management
Console)? I am doing WIP

Help!

Cheers!
Ananth Krishna
Interlink










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Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]
Guest





Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock Reply with quote

Well, the funny thing is that when you close down TI Manager, that entry
SHOULD be deleted from the table, and thus never be a problem. We do not
see the problem here, so I wonder why you are getting it (we can only force
this problem by having TI manager crash).

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:39:10 -0700

yikes! reuse spids or stolen spids! ..i still have it intermittently.
this
definitely needs to be made robust. i was wary of deleting stuff out of
"write clients" table but it seems to have been spids that were reused or
stolen......

yes; i also made sure that i have only one terminal session into my HIS
box!..the thing is that message is pretty informative in the sense that it
tells me what user and what box..so i know its not due to multiple terminal
sessions with TI open into my HIS box

now; i just delete the one entry in the table whenever it happens ~

thanks for your help~ will come back here next week if it happens more~

cheers~
Ananth Krishna
Interlink Group


"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" <rob_beardsworth@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:56qK7FFTFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Hi Ananth,
bear with me here and try the following:

make sure non of your applications are running
exit TI Manager if it is open (on all machines and TS sessions pointing to
this DB)
Delete all entries from the HIP Database Write Clients table (there should
only be one)

Now try starting stuff up and working.

Could it be that you had the TI Manager open on a TS session and then
killed the session? That would have left the spid in the write client
table, and if that spid is reused (by one of your other apps) the stored
procedure would think it was still a valid connection. We are working on
improving the Enter Write Mode functionality for our next release (sorry,
that doesn't help you right now).

In the future, make sure you always close any TI manager which is in Write
Mode. Unless of course it crashes in which case you should definitely tell
us :-)

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com
References: <OOZiGh3SFHA.3144@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
Vh9KHgCTFHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
eeG5AWDTFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:19:05 -0700
Lines: 128

Rob;

The spid from the master..sysprocesses is not even for the MSHIS60_HIP
database. The program_name and the dbid from the master..sysprocesses
table tells me that its a different database and from .net sql client
provider.

There is no reason for this entry to be there in MSHIS60_HIP Write Clients
table.

Cheers~
Ananth





"Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eeG5AWDTFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Rob;

I agree it should not happen. :) The message does say HIP....Thats
cool..I dont have problem with messages but it does lock me out.

I am not calling TI from a remote machine. I am using the TI only on my
HIS machine..using Remote Desktop Connection (No other sessions)..

Basically I have

Website in Web Server > Web Service in App Server > Remoting > my VB.NET
DLL in HIS machine > Invokes TI.NET HIS proxy dll in IIS in HIS machine
CICS program in mainframe...

I also did a bit of scouting and checked the stored procedure it calls.
Followed 'EntireWriteMode' and it checks the Write Clients table..and
master..sysprocesses.

Yes..It does seem to find spid that belongs to my app server component...

Let me know if i can give you any more information...Kinda urgent..Really
appreciate if you can give some pointers~

Cheers~
Ananth Krishna
Interlink


"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" <rob_beardsworth@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:Vh9KHgCTFHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
Hi Ananth,
hmm, this definitely should not happen :-).

The "HIP" message should really say "TI" (originally the "create/edit
vs. view" concept was only on the HIP part of the console, but then got
expanded to the whole console, I guess we just forgot to change the Info
Message when we did this).

Obviously we have tested this here, and it seems a little strange that
running your apps is locking the Config DB, as WIP apps should never
call
any of the routines which would lock the Config DB; we used to have a
bug
where running a HIP service could do so, but that was fixed before RTM.
If
you pull your clients over to the machine on which you were running TI
Console and run them from there, do you get the same error? Are you
absolutely sure you are not starting the TI manager on the remote
machine?

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

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From: "Ananth Krishna" <ananth.krishna@gmail.com
Subject: HIS 2004 TI :View And Create Lock
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:27:18 -0700
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I am doing Windows Initiated Processing. I have installed my Objects
and
Remote Environments in HIS 2004 TI Manager.
I have used TI .NET dlls..(of which proxies were created and hosted in
virtual drive in IIS) Everthing seems to be fine and dandy.

After a bit of testing/ I wish to modify my remote environment. In the
MMC
console; I right click Transaction Integrator (View and Operate) to
expand
and choose Operation Mode to further select the 'Create/Edit' option !
but
it gives me the following message....

'User XX from Machine YYYY has already locked the configuration database
for
writing. The HIP Management Console will work in the "View And Operate"
mode""

where Machine YYYY is my App Server.

I cannot do anything unless I restart my Application Server that has
objects
that call these proxies in the HIS box. Once i instantiate the HIS
calls
from my objects from Application; again TI gets locked by this user from
the
App Server..

Why is an object instantiation putting TI in a locked mode?

Secondly I am not doing HIP..why is it saying this...(HIP Management
Console)? I am doing WIP

Help!

Cheers!
Ananth Krishna
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