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Rob Carey
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: ? About Small/Medium Farm. Reply with quote
Good Day folks,

Here is what I am looking at accomplishing.

2 front end SharePoint Server 2003 web servers, load
balanced doing all work for internal sites except SQL.
1 SQL 2000 server for above mentioned web servers.

1 Front end SharePoint Server 2003 web server doing all
work for external sites connected to same SQL server as
above.

All front end servers will be connected to an Alteon
switch for load balancing.
Is that a viable solution for a small farm?
We expect alot more traffic on the internal sites then
the external so are only worried about that.
How would one accomplish this? Is there some
documentation somewhere, I have looked but dont see it.
Will the alteon switch work for load balancing or is
there another reccomendation?

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Thank You!!
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Lindley
Guest
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: ? About Small/Medium Farm. Reply with quote
Many permutations of topologies can be built using Microsoft Office
SharePoint Portal Server 2003, but only a small number of these topologies
are supported by Microsoft. The simplest topologies are the single-server
and small-server-farm topologies.

Medium and large server-farm topologies can get much more complex. A medium
server topology requires at a minimum one front-end Web server running the
search application, one index/job server running SharePoint Portal Server
2003, and one database server running Microsoft SQL Server 2000 with Service
Pack 3a or later. Additional servers can be added to this topology to enable
higher availability, higher capacity, or both, but you cannot have a medium
farm with fewer than four servers.

Several topologies are NOT supported by Microsoft. When you install one of
these topologies, it will appear to function-that is, you can create the
topology on the Components Selection page, but it will not be eligible for
support and you will not be able to create a new portal site in it. In
addition, unsupported topologies cannot be backed up or restored. When you
open SPSBackup.exe, it will show an error "Topology not supported" and exit.
It is strongly recommended that you stay away from these unsupported
topologies. Installing the database component on one of the servers running
SharePoint Portal Server is an unsupported topology for a farm. Installing
two or more servers with all (Web/search/index) components is also not
supported.

More at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/office/sps2003/plan/cappisps.mspx



Regards,

Lindley





"Rob Carey" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:128101c4f737$12773240$a501280a@phx.gbl...
Quote:
Good Day folks,

Here is what I am looking at accomplishing.

2 front end SharePoint Server 2003 web servers, load
balanced doing all work for internal sites except SQL.
1 SQL 2000 server for above mentioned web servers.

1 Front end SharePoint Server 2003 web server doing all
work for external sites connected to same SQL server as
above.

All front end servers will be connected to an Alteon
switch for load balancing.
Is that a viable solution for a small farm?
We expect alot more traffic on the internal sites then
the external so are only worried about that.
How would one accomplish this? Is there some
documentation somewhere, I have looked but dont see it.
Will the alteon switch work for load balancing or is
there another reccomendation?

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Thank You!!
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Gavin McKay
Guest
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: ? About Small/Medium Farm. Reply with quote
Rob,

You might want to consider a clustered SQL Server configuration as well,
depending on how critical your Sharepoint installation is. That will give
you greatly increased redundancy.

We have 5 servers in our configuration - 2 front-end web servers, an
indexing/job server, and 2 sql servers in a cluster. We have searches across
our entire organisations document shares, so that's about 3million documents.
Hence the separate indexing/job server to take the load off the installation.

"Lindley" wrote:

Quote:
Many permutations of topologies can be built using Microsoft Office
SharePoint Portal Server 2003, but only a small number of these topologies
are supported by Microsoft. The simplest topologies are the single-server
and small-server-farm topologies.

Medium and large server-farm topologies can get much more complex. A medium
server topology requires at a minimum one front-end Web server running the
search application, one index/job server running SharePoint Portal Server
2003, and one database server running Microsoft SQL Server 2000 with Service
Pack 3a or later. Additional servers can be added to this topology to enable
higher availability, higher capacity, or both, but you cannot have a medium
farm with fewer than four servers.

Several topologies are NOT supported by Microsoft. When you install one of
these topologies, it will appear to function-that is, you can create the
topology on the Components Selection page, but it will not be eligible for
support and you will not be able to create a new portal site in it. In
addition, unsupported topologies cannot be backed up or restored. When you
open SPSBackup.exe, it will show an error "Topology not supported" and exit.
It is strongly recommended that you stay away from these unsupported
topologies. Installing the database component on one of the servers running
SharePoint Portal Server is an unsupported topology for a farm. Installing
two or more servers with all (Web/search/index) components is also not
supported.

More at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/office/sps2003/plan/cappisps.mspx



Regards,

Lindley





"Rob Carey" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:128101c4f737$12773240$a501280a@phx.gbl...
Good Day folks,

Here is what I am looking at accomplishing.

2 front end SharePoint Server 2003 web servers, load
balanced doing all work for internal sites except SQL.
1 SQL 2000 server for above mentioned web servers.

1 Front end SharePoint Server 2003 web server doing all
work for external sites connected to same SQL server as
above.

All front end servers will be connected to an Alteon
switch for load balancing.
Is that a viable solution for a small farm?
We expect alot more traffic on the internal sites then
the external so are only worried about that.
How would one accomplish this? Is there some
documentation somewhere, I have looked but dont see it.
Will the alteon switch work for load balancing or is
there another reccomendation?

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Thank You!!


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Bill English [MVP]
Guest
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: ? About Small/Medium Farm. Reply with quote
You can't divide access to some sites between one or more set of WFE servers
and access to other sites via other WFE servers in the same farm. Farms
don't work like that in 2003.

If you have 2 WFE servers, then you'll need another Index/Job server with
SQL being hosted on it's own box. You need to read through the server
documentation in the res kit in order to understand this better.

--

Bill English
www.mindsharp.com
www.mindsharpblogs.com
sharepointdiscussions@yahoogroups.com


"Rob Carey" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:128101c4f737$12773240$a501280a@phx.gbl...
Quote:
Good Day folks,

Here is what I am looking at accomplishing.

2 front end SharePoint Server 2003 web servers, load
balanced doing all work for internal sites except SQL.
1 SQL 2000 server for above mentioned web servers.

1 Front end SharePoint Server 2003 web server doing all
work for external sites connected to same SQL server as
above.

All front end servers will be connected to an Alteon
switch for load balancing.
Is that a viable solution for a small farm?
We expect alot more traffic on the internal sites then
the external so are only worried about that.
How would one accomplish this? Is there some
documentation somewhere, I have looked but dont see it.
Will the alteon switch work for load balancing or is
there another reccomendation?

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Thank You!!
Back to top
Rob Carey
Guest
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: ? About Small/Medium Farm. Reply with quote
Thanks for the information Lindley and Gavin!
Thats exactly what I was looking for.
Our SQl servers are on a seperate SQL server farm with HP
Blades. Since they are allready clustered I do not need
to worry about that part.

Quote:
-----Original Message-----
Rob,

You might want to consider a clustered SQL Server
configuration as well,
depending on how critical your Sharepoint installation
is. That will give
you greatly increased redundancy.

We have 5 servers in our configuration - 2 front-end web
servers, an
indexing/job server, and 2 sql servers in a cluster. We
have searches across
our entire organisations document shares, so that's
about 3million documents.
Hence the separate indexing/job server to take the load
off the installation.

"Lindley" wrote:

Many permutations of topologies can be built using
Microsoft Office
SharePoint Portal Server 2003, but only a small number
of these topologies
are supported by Microsoft. The simplest topologies
are the single-server
and small-server-farm topologies.

Medium and large server-farm topologies can get much
more complex. A medium
server topology requires at a minimum one front-end
Web server running the
search application, one index/job server running
SharePoint Portal Server
2003, and one database server running Microsoft SQL
Server 2000 with Service
Pack 3a or later. Additional servers can be added to
this topology to enable
higher availability, higher capacity, or both, but you
cannot have a medium
farm with fewer than four servers.

Several topologies are NOT supported by Microsoft.
When you install one of
these topologies, it will appear to function-that is,
you can create the
topology on the Components Selection page, but it will
not be eligible for
support and you will not be able to create a new
portal site in it. In
addition, unsupported topologies cannot be backed up
or restored. When you
open SPSBackup.exe, it will show an error "Topology
not supported" and exit.
It is strongly recommended that you stay away from
these unsupported
topologies. Installing the database component on one
of the servers running
SharePoint Portal Server is an unsupported topology
for a farm. Installing
two or more servers with all (Web/search/index)
components is also not
supported.

More at

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/office/sps200

3/plan/cappisps.mspx
Quote:



Regards,

Lindley





"Rob Carey" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com
wrote in message
news:128101c4f737$12773240$a501280a@phx.gbl...
Good Day folks,

Here is what I am looking at accomplishing.

2 front end SharePoint Server 2003 web servers, load
balanced doing all work for internal sites except
SQL.
1 SQL 2000 server for above mentioned web servers.

1 Front end SharePoint Server 2003 web server doing
all
work for external sites connected to same SQL server
as
above.

All front end servers will be connected to an Alteon
switch for load balancing.
Is that a viable solution for a small farm?
We expect alot more traffic on the internal sites
then
the external so are only worried about that.
How would one accomplish this? Is there some
documentation somewhere, I have looked but dont see
it.
Will the alteon switch work for load balancing or is
there another reccomendation?

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Thank You!!



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