Win2003sp1 Firewall "blocks ports for idle services" ???
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Win2003sp1 Firewall "blocks ports for idle services" ???

 
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Craig Humphrey
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:48 am    Post subject: Win2003sp1 Firewall "blocks ports for idle services" ??? Reply with quote

Hi,

I've just watched the TechNet webcast, with Peter Meister, on "Introducing
Windows Server 2003 SP1 - Overview".
He mentioned that the Firewall in sp1 "blocks access to ports for
applications that are idle".
I tried to query him further on this, but I still don't get the concept.

His example was of a web server on port 80, when there are no clients
connected to it, the Firewall blocks access to the port.

Now to me this seems a little odd, since how do you then allow future
connections from other clients?

Can someone point me at more info? I've googled and use the MS search, but
to no avail. This feature doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere...

Thanks
Craig
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Steve Riley [MSFT]
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: Win2003sp1 Firewall "blocks ports for idle services" ??? Reply with quote

Sorry about that, I think Peter just misspoke. It's the same code as the
firewall in XP service pack 2 and it behaves in exactly the same way. It
allows all outbound traffic. It blocks everything inbound unless:

* the inbound traffic is a reply to some request that went out
* the inbound traffic matches a port you've statically opened
* the inbound traffic is for an application that you've granted permission
to open a port

In the third case, the port remains open for as long as the application is
executing.

Steve Riley
steriley@microsoft.com



Quote:
Hi,

I've just watched the TechNet webcast, with Peter Meister, on
"Introducing
Windows Server 2003 SP1 - Overview".
He mentioned that the Firewall in sp1 "blocks access to ports for
applications that are idle".
I tried to query him further on this, but I still don't get the
concept.
His example was of a web server on port 80, when there are no clients
connected to it, the Firewall blocks access to the port.

Now to me this seems a little odd, since how do you then allow future
connections from other clients?

Can someone point me at more info? I've googled and use the MS
search, but to no avail. This feature doesn't seem to be mentioned
anywhere...

Thanks
Craig
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Craig Humphrey
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:39 am    Post subject: Re: Win2003sp1 Firewall "blocks ports for idle services" ??? Reply with quote

Thanks Steve,

I figured that was the case, but Microsoft does occasionally pull a new
concept out of the hat :)

BTW Thanks for coming back to New Zealand for TechEd2004. Will you be back
again this year?

Later'ish
Craig

"Steve Riley [MSFT]" <steriley@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Sorry about that, I think Peter just misspoke. It's the same code as the
firewall in XP service pack 2 and it behaves in exactly the same way. It
allows all outbound traffic. It blocks everything inbound unless:

* the inbound traffic is a reply to some request that went out
* the inbound traffic matches a port you've statically opened
* the inbound traffic is for an application that you've granted permission
to open a port

In the third case, the port remains open for as long as the application is
executing.

Steve Riley
steriley@microsoft.com



Hi,

I've just watched the TechNet webcast, with Peter Meister, on
"Introducing
Windows Server 2003 SP1 - Overview".
He mentioned that the Firewall in sp1 "blocks access to ports for
applications that are idle".
I tried to query him further on this, but I still don't get the
concept.
His example was of a web server on port 80, when there are no clients
connected to it, the Firewall blocks access to the port.

Now to me this seems a little odd, since how do you then allow future
connections from other clients?

Can someone point me at more info? I've googled and use the MS
search, but to no avail. This feature doesn't seem to be mentioned
anywhere...

Thanks
Craig

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Steve Riley [MSFT]
Guest





Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: Win2003sp1 Firewall "blocks ports for idle services" ??? Reply with quote

Yep I'll be back, but not sure for how long. TechEds New Zealand, Australia,
and Taiwan are all kinda crammed close together this year...

Steve Riley
steriley@microsoft.com



Quote:
Thanks Steve,

I figured that was the case, but Microsoft does occasionally pull a
new concept out of the hat :)

BTW Thanks for coming back to New Zealand for TechEd2004. Will you be
back again this year?

Later'ish
Craig
"Steve Riley [MSFT]" <steriley@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:50001632412283446642546@news.microsoft.com...

Sorry about that, I think Peter just misspoke. It's the same code as
the firewall in XP service pack 2 and it behaves in exactly the same
way. It allows all outbound traffic. It blocks everything inbound
unless:

* the inbound traffic is a reply to some request that went out
* the inbound traffic matches a port you've statically opened
* the inbound traffic is for an application that you've granted
permission
to open a port
In the third case, the port remains open for as long as the
application is executing.

Steve Riley
steriley@microsoft.com
Hi,

I've just watched the TechNet webcast, with Peter Meister, on
"Introducing
Windows Server 2003 SP1 - Overview".
He mentioned that the Firewall in sp1 "blocks access to ports for
applications that are idle".
I tried to query him further on this, but I still don't get the
concept.
His example was of a web server on port 80, when there are no
clients
connected to it, the Firewall blocks access to the port.
Now to me this seems a little odd, since how do you then allow
future connections from other clients?

Can someone point me at more info? I've googled and use the MS
search, but to no avail. This feature doesn't seem to be mentioned
anywhere...

Thanks
Craig
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