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Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:53 am Post subject:
About HIS Client connection to His Server |
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Hi,
i have intalled my HIS server on the windows 2003 Ent Server with APPC/Lu6.2
and it work very good!
Today i have installed a his client on another windwos 2003 Ent. Server and
have configured it to locate a his server by name (no Active Directory) ,
check a box "Run Sna Base as service" and choose a TCP/IP Protocol.
The question is :
How i test if the his client connection to his server work ? I not try
with a 3270 client because a 3270 session is not permitted!
Exist any command or test to verify if the conenction between a client and
server work ?
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Monte
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Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:20 am Post subject:
Re: About HIS Client connection to His Server |
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With locate by Servers Name(s), a client will send a directed request to one
of the HIS 2004 Server Name(s) (or IP Addresses) that is listed in the
configuration. Once this "sponsor connection" is done, the client receives
something called the Service Table (ST) so it knows where resources
(sessions) are located throughout your HIS Sub-domain.. The sponsor
connection happens over port 1478, and the application session over port
1477.
If the SnaBase is running on the client and no pop-up error was given, then
the sponsor connection probably connected fine. It sounds as if you want to
verify that application sessions would work over 1477 -- but you're unable
to do this due to "3270 session is not permitted". Are you stating this
since you don't have any sessions configured in SNA Manager, or are you
thinking this is due to the <Server> security properties having the LU Type
3270 checked?
In HIS 2004 you can still configure a "DEMO SDLC Link Service" on your HIS
2004 Server to simulate a mainframe 3270 session from your client. This
would prove a client is able to get a 3270 session over port 1477 - and of
course 1478 since this first has to occur before any SNA/HIS applications
can access resources in the sub-domain.
To use the demo link service see:
247822 How to Use Demo SDLC Link Service for 3270 Client Testing
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=247822
You can always get a sniff (Netmon) to see if there is a problem getting
sessions over these two ports, but like I said before, you should receive
some type of pop-up error if a failure does occur...
<io.com> wrote in message news:uyOcOv0nEHA.396@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Hi,
i have intalled my HIS server on the windows 2003 Ent Server with
APPC/Lu6.2
and it work very good!
Today i have installed a his client on another windwos 2003 Ent. Server
and
have configured it to locate a his server by name (no Active Directory) ,
check a box "Run Sna Base as service" and choose a TCP/IP Protocol.
The question is :
How i test if the his client connection to his server work ? I not try
with a 3270 client because a 3270 session is not permitted!
Exist any command or test to verify if the conenction between a client and
server work ?
Thanks.
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Neil Pike
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Posted:
Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:06 am Post subject:
Re: About HIS Client connection to His Server |
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After firing up the SNABase service on the client, do a "netstat -n". If it
shows a connection to the SNA Server then you connected ok.
You could also set the SNA Client trace on for SNABase/SNAmgmnt and see it
talking that way.
What are you going to run on the "client"? An LU6.2 program presumably?
| Quote: | i have intalled my HIS server on the windows 2003 Ent Server with APPC/Lu6.2
and it work very good!
Today i have installed a his client on another windwos 2003 Ent. Server and
have configured it to locate a his server by name (no Active Directory) ,
check a box "Run Sna Base as service" and choose a TCP/IP Protocol.
The question is :
How i test if the his client connection to his server work ? I not try
with a 3270 client because a 3270 session is not permitted!
Exist any command or test to verify if the conenction between a client and
server work ?
Thanks.
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Neil Pike MVP/MCSE. Protech Computing Ltd
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Guest
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Posted:
Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:13 pm Post subject:
Re: About HIS Client connection to His Server |
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Hi all,
and thanks all for the reply :-)
Yes on the client run an LU6.2 program .
COM Appllication tath use COMTI for run a routine on the host.
I try with with netstat
"Neil Pike" <neilpike@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | After firing up the SNABase service on the client, do a "netstat -n". If
it
shows a connection to the SNA Server then you connected ok.
You could also set the SNA Client trace on for SNABase/SNAmgmnt and see
it
talking that way.
What are you going to run on the "client"? An LU6.2 program presumably?
i have intalled my HIS server on the windows 2003 Ent Server with
APPC/Lu6.2
and it work very good!
Today i have installed a his client on another windwos 2003 Ent. Server
and
have configured it to locate a his server by name (no Active Directory)
,
check a box "Run Sna Base as service" and choose a TCP/IP Protocol.
The question is :
How i test if the his client connection to his server work ? I not try
with a 3270 client because a 3270 session is not permitted!
Exist any command or test to verify if the conenction between a client
and
server work ?
Thanks.
Neil Pike MVP/MCSE. Protech Computing Ltd
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Guest
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Posted:
Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:46 am Post subject:
Re: About HIS Client connection to His Server |
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Hi,
i try to verfify with a netstat and "SNA Locator Wizard" for check if client
and server sna communincation work and it's ok ! :-)
I have a last question :
May i try COM+ /COM TI TEST from the client to a server to verify if COM TI
work with my SNA SERVER ?
I will must to be run on the client a COM+ with LU6.2 connections.
Thanks.
"Neil Pike" <neilpike@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:VA.0000623a.1203ece2@compuserve.com...
| Quote: | After firing up the SNABase service on the client, do a "netstat -n". If
it
shows a connection to the SNA Server then you connected ok.
You could also set the SNA Client trace on for SNABase/SNAmgmnt and see
it
talking that way.
What are you going to run on the "client"? An LU6.2 program presumably?
i have intalled my HIS server on the windows 2003 Ent Server with
APPC/Lu6.2
and it work very good!
Today i have installed a his client on another windwos 2003 Ent. Server
and
have configured it to locate a his server by name (no Active Directory)
,
check a box "Run Sna Base as service" and choose a TCP/IP Protocol.
The question is :
How i test if the his client connection to his server work ? I not try
with a 3270 client because a 3270 session is not permitted!
Exist any command or test to verify if the conenction between a client
and
server work ?
Thanks.
Neil Pike MVP/MCSE. Protech Computing Ltd
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Aaron Grady [MSFT]
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Posted:
Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:00 am Post subject:
Re: About HIS Client connection to His Server |
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COMTI will not work on the HIS client machine.
The reason for this is that the HIS 2000 client software does not come with
the COMTI runtime components, like the old SNA4 client used to have. COMTI
now only comes with the server installation of HIS. So, if you need a
"client" machine that has COMTI, you actually have to install the server
installation, but not install the SNA Server service. This will give you
COMTI, but will cause it to connect through another SNA/HIS server just like
a client. And yes... you need an HIS server license to do this.
HTH,
--
Aaron Grady
MCSE + Internet, MCDBA, MCSD
SNA Server/Host Integration Server 2000
Microsoft
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<io.com> wrote in message news:%23n%232kRCoEHA.1712@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Hi,
i try to verfify with a netstat and "SNA Locator Wizard" for check if
client
and server sna communincation work and it's ok ! :-)
I have a last question :
May i try COM+ /COM TI TEST from the client to a server to verify if COM
TI
work with my SNA SERVER ?
I will must to be run on the client a COM+ with LU6.2 connections.
Thanks.
"Neil Pike" <neilpike@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:VA.0000623a.1203ece2@compuserve.com...
After firing up the SNABase service on the client, do a "netstat -n".
If
it
shows a connection to the SNA Server then you connected ok.
You could also set the SNA Client trace on for SNABase/SNAmgmnt and see
it
talking that way.
What are you going to run on the "client"? An LU6.2 program
presumably?
i have intalled my HIS server on the windows 2003 Ent Server with
APPC/Lu6.2
and it work very good!
Today i have installed a his client on another windwos 2003 Ent.
Server
and
have configured it to locate a his server by name (no Active
Directory)
,
check a box "Run Sna Base as service" and choose a TCP/IP Protocol.
The question is :
How i test if the his client connection to his server work ? I not
try
with a 3270 client because a 3270 session is not permitted!
Exist any command or test to verify if the conenction between a client
and
server work ?
Thanks.
Neil Pike MVP/MCSE. Protech Computing Ltd
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Posted:
Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:38 pm Post subject:
Re: About HIS Client connection to His Server |
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Hi and thanks for your reply,
therefore i can not have a server (server1) with his server and another
server (server2) with His Client and COMTI installation ?
I therefore install on server1 His Server and on server2 another
installation of His without a "sna service" but only COM TI HIS client ?
On Server2 a COM+ application (LU6.2) may work without his client but
only wih COMTI ? COMTI without His Client automatly use a his server for
connecto to Mainframe ?
If yes than what functionality have a HIS client ?
Where i read any information about this ?
Thanks.
"Aaron Grady [MSFT]" <aagrady@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OwPQoZCoEHA.3520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | COMTI will not work on the HIS client machine.
The reason for this is that the HIS 2000 client software does not come
with
the COMTI runtime components, like the old SNA4 client used to have. COMTI
now only comes with the server installation of HIS. So, if you need a
"client" machine that has COMTI, you actually have to install the server
installation, but not install the SNA Server service. This will give you
COMTI, but will cause it to connect through another SNA/HIS server just
like
a client. And yes... you need an HIS server license to do this.
HTH,
--
Aaron Grady
MCSE + Internet, MCDBA, MCSD
SNA Server/Host Integration Server 2000
Microsoft
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
io.com> wrote in message
news:%23n%232kRCoEHA.1712@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Hi,
i try to verfify with a netstat and "SNA Locator Wizard" for check if
client
and server sna communincation work and it's ok ! :-)
I have a last question :
May i try COM+ /COM TI TEST from the client to a server to verify if COM
TI
work with my SNA SERVER ?
I will must to be run on the client a COM+ with LU6.2 connections.
Thanks.
"Neil Pike" <neilpike@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:VA.0000623a.1203ece2@compuserve.com...
After firing up the SNABase service on the client, do a "netstat -n".
If
it
shows a connection to the SNA Server then you connected ok.
You could also set the SNA Client trace on for SNABase/SNAmgmnt and
see
it
talking that way.
What are you going to run on the "client"? An LU6.2 program
presumably?
i have intalled my HIS server on the windows 2003 Ent Server with
APPC/Lu6.2
and it work very good!
Today i have installed a his client on another windwos 2003 Ent.
Server
and
have configured it to locate a his server by name (no Active
Directory)
,
check a box "Run Sna Base as service" and choose a TCP/IP Protocol.
The question is :
How i test if the his client connection to his server work ? I not
try
with a 3270 client because a 3270 session is not permitted!
Exist any command or test to verify if the conenction between a
client
and
server work ?
Thanks.
Neil Pike MVP/MCSE. Protech Computing Ltd
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Aaron Grady [MSFT]
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Posted:
Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:23 pm Post subject:
Re: About HIS Client connection to His Server |
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Ok... I hope this isn't getting more confusing than it should be. I'll try
and clear things up.
In HIS, when you install the client, you get the following:
-snabase connection to the server(s)
-3270 LU access
-LU6.2 access
-all the APIs like SLI, RUI, APPC, CPI-C, etc.
-COMTI compoenent builder and Manager - but not the runtime files
So yes, you could install the client and run your own LU6.2 application.
However, the client does not come with the COMTI runtime files, so you could
use the client to develop a COMTI component, but in order to deploy the
COMTI component, you have to do this on an HIS server where the COMTI
runtime files have been installed.
The second thing to understand is that a server can act like a client to
another server if you do not install the SNA Server service (we sometimes
call this "nodeless" because it is a server without an SNA node). So, if you
install server 2 this way you can run COMTI on server 2 and it can connect
through the SNA server service on server 1.
HTH,
--
Aaron Grady
MCSE + Internet, MCDBA, MCSD
SNA Server/Host Integration Server 2000
Microsoft
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
<io.com> wrote in message news:eH47ilKoEHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Hi and thanks for your reply,
therefore i can not have a server (server1) with his server and another
server (server2) with His Client and COMTI installation ?
I therefore install on server1 His Server and on server2 another
installation of His without a "sna service" but only COM TI HIS client ?
On Server2 a COM+ application (LU6.2) may work without his client but
only wih COMTI ? COMTI without His Client automatly use a his server for
connecto to Mainframe ?
If yes than what functionality have a HIS client ?
Where i read any information about this ?
Thanks.
"Aaron Grady [MSFT]" <aagrady@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OwPQoZCoEHA.3520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
COMTI will not work on the HIS client machine.
The reason for this is that the HIS 2000 client software does not come
with
the COMTI runtime components, like the old SNA4 client used to have.
COMTI
now only comes with the server installation of HIS. So, if you need a
"client" machine that has COMTI, you actually have to install the server
installation, but not install the SNA Server service. This will give you
COMTI, but will cause it to connect through another SNA/HIS server just
like
a client. And yes... you need an HIS server license to do this.
HTH,
--
Aaron Grady
MCSE + Internet, MCDBA, MCSD
SNA Server/Host Integration Server 2000
Microsoft
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
io.com> wrote in message
news:%23n%232kRCoEHA.1712@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Hi,
i try to verfify with a netstat and "SNA Locator Wizard" for check if
client
and server sna communincation work and it's ok ! :-)
I have a last question :
May i try COM+ /COM TI TEST from the client to a server to verify if
COM
TI
work with my SNA SERVER ?
I will must to be run on the client a COM+ with LU6.2 connections.
Thanks.
"Neil Pike" <neilpike@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:VA.0000623a.1203ece2@compuserve.com...
After firing up the SNABase service on the client, do a
"netstat -n".
If
it
shows a connection to the SNA Server then you connected ok.
You could also set the SNA Client trace on for SNABase/SNAmgmnt and
see
it
talking that way.
What are you going to run on the "client"? An LU6.2 program
presumably?
i have intalled my HIS server on the windows 2003 Ent Server with
APPC/Lu6.2
and it work very good!
Today i have installed a his client on another windwos 2003 Ent.
Server
and
have configured it to locate a his server by name (no Active
Directory)
,
check a box "Run Sna Base as service" and choose a TCP/IP
Protocol.
The question is :
How i test if the his client connection to his server work ? I
not
try
with a 3270 client because a 3270 session is not permitted!
Exist any command or test to verify if the conenction between a
client
and
server work ?
Thanks.
Neil Pike MVP/MCSE. Protech Computing Ltd
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otherwise)
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:04 am Post subject:
Re: About HIS Client connection to His Server |
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Thanks very much i try isntall a server 2 as SNA Server only for may run my
COM TI applicaztion.!
bye
"Aaron Grady [MSFT]" <aagrady@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:eoY#PCMoEHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Ok... I hope this isn't getting more confusing than it should be. I'll try
and clear things up.
In HIS, when you install the client, you get the following:
-snabase connection to the server(s)
-3270 LU access
-LU6.2 access
-all the APIs like SLI, RUI, APPC, CPI-C, etc.
-COMTI compoenent builder and Manager - but not the runtime files
So yes, you could install the client and run your own LU6.2 application.
However, the client does not come with the COMTI runtime files, so you
could
use the client to develop a COMTI component, but in order to deploy the
COMTI component, you have to do this on an HIS server where the COMTI
runtime files have been installed.
The second thing to understand is that a server can act like a client to
another server if you do not install the SNA Server service (we sometimes
call this "nodeless" because it is a server without an SNA node). So, if
you
install server 2 this way you can run COMTI on server 2 and it can connect
through the SNA server service on server 1.
HTH,
--
Aaron Grady
MCSE + Internet, MCDBA, MCSD
SNA Server/Host Integration Server 2000
Microsoft
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
io.com> wrote in message news:eH47ilKoEHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Hi and thanks for your reply,
therefore i can not have a server (server1) with his server and another
server (server2) with His Client and COMTI installation ?
I therefore install on server1 His Server and on server2 another
installation of His without a "sna service" but only COM TI HIS client
?
On Server2 a COM+ application (LU6.2) may work without his client but
only wih COMTI ? COMTI without His Client automatly use a his server for
connecto to Mainframe ?
If yes than what functionality have a HIS client ?
Where i read any information about this ?
Thanks.
"Aaron Grady [MSFT]" <aagrady@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OwPQoZCoEHA.3520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
COMTI will not work on the HIS client machine.
The reason for this is that the HIS 2000 client software does not come
with
the COMTI runtime components, like the old SNA4 client used to have.
COMTI
now only comes with the server installation of HIS. So, if you need a
"client" machine that has COMTI, you actually have to install the
server
installation, but not install the SNA Server service. This will give
you
COMTI, but will cause it to connect through another SNA/HIS server
just
like
a client. And yes... you need an HIS server license to do this.
HTH,
--
Aaron Grady
MCSE + Internet, MCDBA, MCSD
SNA Server/Host Integration Server 2000
Microsoft
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
io.com> wrote in message
news:%23n%232kRCoEHA.1712@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Hi,
i try to verfify with a netstat and "SNA Locator Wizard" for check
if
client
and server sna communincation work and it's ok ! :-)
I have a last question :
May i try COM+ /COM TI TEST from the client to a server to verify if
COM
TI
work with my SNA SERVER ?
I will must to be run on the client a COM+ with LU6.2 connections.
Thanks.
"Neil Pike" <neilpike@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:VA.0000623a.1203ece2@compuserve.com...
After firing up the SNABase service on the client, do a
"netstat -n".
If
it
shows a connection to the SNA Server then you connected ok.
You could also set the SNA Client trace on for SNABase/SNAmgmnt
and
see
it
talking that way.
What are you going to run on the "client"? An LU6.2 program
presumably?
i have intalled my HIS server on the windows 2003 Ent Server
with
APPC/Lu6.2
and it work very good!
Today i have installed a his client on another windwos 2003 Ent.
Server
and
have configured it to locate a his server by name (no Active
Directory)
,
check a box "Run Sna Base as service" and choose a TCP/IP
Protocol.
The question is :
How i test if the his client connection to his server work ? I
not
try
with a 3270 client because a 3270 session is not permitted!
Exist any command or test to verify if the conenction between a
client
and
server work ?
Thanks.
Neil Pike MVP/MCSE. Protech Computing Ltd
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