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Peter
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject:
The future of WSS |
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Hello!
Can I find somewhere information about Microsoft's palans with WSS? Will
Microsoft invest time and energy to develop WSS or is it Sharepoint Portal
Server that will get all attention in the future?
Thanks.
Peter |
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Mike Walsh
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject:
Re: The future of WSS |
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This kind of information doesn't seem to be available.
I doubt though if things will change much in the SPS / WSS relationship.
Even today Microsoft seem to concentrate their attention on SPS 2003 -
possibly because it's the only product that brings them revenue.
However now that WSS is part of Win Server System (and it's been said
publically that it will be part of Win Server 2003 R2), I don't see the
separate install of WSS disappearing.
I'd expect that the rumours of CMS and SPS 2003 getting closer together are
more likely than that standalone WSS will disappear.
Mike Walsh, Helsinki, Finland
WSS FAQ at http://wss.collutions.com
Please post questions to the newsgroup only.
"Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hello!
Can I find somewhere information about Microsoft's palans with WSS? Will
Microsoft invest time and energy to develop WSS or is it Sharepoint Portal
Server that will get all attention in the future?
Thanks.
Peter
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Bil Simser [MVP]
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject:
Re: The future of WSS |
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I wouldn't say the standalone WSS will disappear. It's not like you can
deploy SPS on every server in your organization to handle thousands of
team sites. That's just not feasible from a financial standpoint and
doesn't make a lot of sense architecturally or for maintenance.
Both SPS will go on and WSS as they're dependant (well at least SPS is
dependant on WSS). Standalone WSS sites are the way to go when you want
to say give every department or organizational group in your company a
place to collaborate.
The only thing I would see would be WSS to become an option when you
setup Win Server 2003 just like you do now when you select it to be a
file, printer, or web server, I can see the option of making it a WSS
server just as easily and thus it's just folded into the OS.
--
Bil Simser
http://weblogs.asp.net
"Mike Walsh" <englantilainen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:englantilainen@hotmail.com:
| Quote: | This kind of information doesn't seem to be available.
I doubt though if things will change much in the SPS / WSS relationship.
Even today Microsoft seem to concentrate their attention on SPS 2003 -
possibly because it's the only product that brings them revenue.
However now that WSS is part of Win Server System (and it's been said
publically that it will be part of Win Server 2003 R2), I don't see the
separate install of WSS disappearing.
I'd expect that the rumours of CMS and SPS 2003 getting closer together
are
more likely than that standalone WSS will disappear.
Mike Walsh, Helsinki, Finland
WSS FAQ at http://wss.collutions.com
Please post questions to the newsgroup only.
"Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8359194D-89CE-4323-BE6E-66C0203A785E@microsoft.com...
Hello!
Can I find somewhere information about Microsoft's palans with WSS?
Will
Microsoft invest time and energy to develop WSS or is it Sharepoint
Portal
Server that will get all attention in the future?
Thanks.
Peter
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Ed Richard
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject:
Re: The future of WSS |
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Right, I feel there shouldn't be a difference, WebFolder, network share,
Shared folder, Document Library. Should all be the same and offer the same.
The same goes for the forms technologies, there are just too many around
now, Infopath, Outlook forms, Sharepoint pages, other asp.net forms etc...
It would be nice if we can all move to one technology, XAML based?
Ed Richard
| Quote: | The only thing I would see would be WSS to become an option when you setup
Win Server 2003 just like you do now when you select it to be a file,
printer, or web server, I can see the option of making it a WSS server
just as easily and thus it's just folded into the OS. |
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Mike Walsh
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject:
Re: The future of WSS |
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| Quote: | The only thing I would see would be WSS to become an > option when you
setup Win Server 2003 just like you do > now when you select it to be a |
file, printer, or web >server
Well it's been stated publically that WSS is part of Win 2003 Server R2 as I
said.
However all that has publically been said about that is that it means it is
included in the Win 2003 Server R2 CDROM rather than only being available as
a download or WindowsUpdate addition as now.
How it's installable from that CDROM has not been stated publically.
Mike Walsh, Helsinki, Finland
"Bil Simser [MVP]" <bsimser@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:%23Esty4h%23EHA.2572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | I wouldn't say the standalone WSS will disappear. It's not like you can
deploy SPS on every server in your organization to handle thousands of
team sites. That's just not feasible from a financial standpoint and
doesn't make a lot of sense architecturally or for maintenance.
Both SPS will go on and WSS as they're dependant (well at least SPS is
dependant on WSS). Standalone WSS sites are the way to go when you want
to say give every department or organizational group in your company a
place to collaborate.
The only thing I would see would be WSS to become an option when you
setup Win Server 2003 just like you do now when you select it to be a
file, printer, or web server, I can see the option of making it a WSS
server just as easily and thus it's just folded into the OS.
--
Bil Simser
http://weblogs.asp.net
"Mike Walsh" <englantilainen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:englantilainen@hotmail.com:
This kind of information doesn't seem to be available.
I doubt though if things will change much in the SPS / WSS relationship.
Even today Microsoft seem to concentrate their attention on SPS 2003 -
possibly because it's the only product that brings them revenue.
However now that WSS is part of Win Server System (and it's been said
publically that it will be part of Win Server 2003 R2), I don't see the
separate install of WSS disappearing.
I'd expect that the rumours of CMS and SPS 2003 getting closer together
are
more likely than that standalone WSS will disappear.
Mike Walsh, Helsinki, Finland
WSS FAQ at http://wss.collutions.com
Please post questions to the newsgroup only.
"Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8359194D-89CE-4323-BE6E-66C0203A785E@microsoft.com...
Hello!
Can I find somewhere information about Microsoft's palans with WSS?
Will
Microsoft invest time and energy to develop WSS or is it Sharepoint
Portal
Server that will get all attention in the future?
Thanks.
Peter
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Jim Buyens
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:55 am Post subject:
RE: The future of WSS |
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"Peter" wrote:
| Quote: | Hello!
Can I find somewhere information about Microsoft's palans with WSS?
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Only by getting hired into the product team. They're VERY close-lipped.
| Quote: | Will Microsoft invest time and energy to develop WSS or is it Sharepoint Portal
Server that will get all attention in the future?
Thanks.
Peter
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It seems to me that time and energy are being expended on WSS. However, the
only thing the product team will tell me is that they won't tell me.
Now, a rational person with eyes wide open might easily observe that
Microsoft uses WSS extensively within the company, and that WSS already
serves as a platform for SPS, Project Web Access, some parts of Biztalk, and
some query functions in Great Plains. It has hooks into Exchange and into
every Office app. This definitely gives WSS the look of something that's not
going away.
As to the relationship between WSS and SPS, SPS 1.0 tried running as a
monolithic app and ran into scalability problems. That's why the current
architecture accomodates farms of WSS servers providing distributed data
storage and team-level collaboration behind a single SPS 2.0 server. That
arrangement seems to be working, so I'd speculate Microsoft is going to keep
it.
But again, that's only speculation. A rational person would also speculate
that there will be surprises.
Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
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|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
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Philip Colmer
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Sun Jan 16, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject:
Re: The future of WSS |
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"Jim Buyens" <news@interlacken.com> wrote in message
news:9B6FB103-9112-48D4-A379-F9F7EBFE15E7@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | But again, that's only speculation. A rational person would also speculate
that there will be surprises.
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In addition, the next release of .Net brings the concept of web parts into
every-day development. It will be possible to build web parts from user
controls (as opposed to system controls as they are now) and the core system
includes more features like skinning, master pages, etc.
I would speculate that the next release of WSS/SPS is going to heavily
invest in the changes being made to .Net ... out this year? :-)
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Jim Buyens
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Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject:
Re: The future of WSS |
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Certainly, the release of .NET 2.0 and of Longhorn each present opportunities
for adding complementary WSS features. For example, if WSS needs something
changed in .NET or vice versa, the .NET 2.0 release would be the logical time
to do it. Plus, it seems likely there's some parallel development going on.
But again, this is only speculation on my part; I have no facts or inside
information on WSS futures.
Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
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|| Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services Inside Out
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
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|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
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"Philip Colmer" wrote:
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"Jim Buyens" <news@interlacken.com> wrote in message
news:9B6FB103-9112-48D4-A379-F9F7EBFE15E7@microsoft.com...
But again, that's only speculation. A rational person would also speculate
that there will be surprises.
In addition, the next release of .Net brings the concept of web parts into
every-day development. It will be possible to build web parts from user
controls (as opposed to system controls as they are now) and the core system
includes more features like skinning, master pages, etc.
I would speculate that the next release of WSS/SPS is going to heavily
invest in the changes being made to .Net ... out this year? :-)
--Philip
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