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steven
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 6:15 pm    Post subject: exchange Reply with quote

hi

i am still having a problem with users sending emails to users with the same
domain name but not in exchange

we are using pop accounts from isp, as the business others franchisees email
addresses (over 500) so we can not set them all up on exchange in SBS

when we try and send an email to them, it gets bounce back
need a way for the emails to get out

thanks

Steven
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Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: exchange Reply with quote

basically it can't be done
when you setup Exchange you told it that it was responsible for all mail for
"mydomain.com"

It assumes are mail for that domain must stay with in Exchange.

Now you can circumvent this but its not pretty
You would have to create these "external" users as mail enabled contacts in
AD

but the email address would have to be any domain other than your pop3
domain. So if they have hotmail, yahoo or some other free email address you
could have it sent there.

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Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
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"steven" <steven@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
hi

i am still having a problem with users sending emails to users with the
same
domain name but not in exchange

we are using pop accounts from isp, as the business others franchisees
email
addresses (over 500) so we can not set them all up on exchange in SBS

when we try and send an email to them, it gets bounce back
need a way for the emails to get out

thanks

Steven
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Les Connor [SBS Community
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: exchange Reply with quote

Hi Steven,

What you're doing is trying to share an address space with a foreign mail
server.

Thanks to Ricky Morris (MS), a complete description of the problem and the
solution:

<snip>

For discussion's sake, lets say that:
1. The domain name of the SBS 2003 server's Active Directory forest is
internal.loc
2. The Exchange 2003 default recipient policy is configured with two SMTP
addresses:
a. @internal.loc
b. @isp.net
3. You have run the CEICW and entered isp.net for the Internal domain name
for which the Exchange server will receive mail for your
users.
4. You want to send mail to a userbbb@isp.net, but when you do so, the
Exchange server generates an immediate non-delivery report
because there is no userbbb in the Active Directory.

To share the address space @isp.net with a foreign mail system (in this
case, the ISP's POP3 server) you must configure the Exchange
server's default recipient policy such that the Exchange Organization is not
"authoritative" for all mail delivered to the @isp.net address.

See:
823158 Authoritative and Nonauthoritative Domains in Exchange 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=823158

OK, now what?

Well, you open the Exchange System Manager, bring up the properties of the
Recipient Policy (on SBS 2003, there is normally only one
recipient policy, call the Default Recipient Policy.) Follow the article
above to check whether the Exchange server is authoritative for
@isp.net. If it is, set the secondary SMTP address space as primary (if
there is only one SMTP address, add another, @bogus.net, for
example.) Once the secondary SMTP address is set as the primary, you will
be able to edit the @isp.net address to uncheck "This Exchange
Organization is responsible for all mail delivery to this address" check
box, click OK and set the @isp.net address as primary like it was
before.

Exchange will now accept mail for external recipients using the @isp.net
domain, and after verifying that they are not homed in the Active
Directory, will send the mail to the designated mail exchanger for the
@isp.net domain without generating an immediate NDR.


Related articles:

822943 How to Share Simple Mail Transfer Protocol Address Spaces in Exchange
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=822943

822447 How to Modify an SMTP E-Mail Address by Using Recipient Policies
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=822447

324958 How To Block Open SMTP Relaying and Clean Up Exchange Server SMTP
Queues
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=324958

321721 XCON: Sharing SMTP Address Spaces in Exchange 2000 Server and
Exchange
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=321721

319759 How to Configure Exchange to Forward Messages to a Foreign Messaging
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=319759

265293 How to Configure the SMTP Connector in Exchange
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=265293



Best Regards,

Ricky Morris, MCSE

Microsoft Small Business Server Support

<endsnip>
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Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !


"steven" <steven@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A4E03D97-4A15-461E-99DA-BB2F399347E3@microsoft.com...
Quote:
hi

i am still having a problem with users sending emails to users with the
same
domain name but not in exchange

we are using pop accounts from isp, as the business others franchisees
email
addresses (over 500) so we can not set them all up on exchange in SBS

when we try and send an email to them, it gets bounce back
need a way for the emails to get out

thanks

Steven
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Bill Swan
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: exchange Reply with quote

Steven

Please elaborate on this setup:-

500 pop3 boxes ? ISP must love you, loads of $$$
Franchises ? Possibly look at sales.mydomain.com, accounts.mydomain.com etc

Any reason why all exchange cant handle email (need to move away from pop3
though to SMTP) no idea if SBS allow 500 users ...lol But would only allow
75 to connect at once. Also need to watch storage limit for standard
exchange...



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Quote:
basically it can't be done
when you setup Exchange you told it that it was responsible for all mail
for "mydomain.com"

It assumes are mail for that domain must stay with in Exchange.

Now you can circumvent this but its not pretty
You would have to create these "external" users as mail enabled contacts
in AD

but the email address would have to be any domain other than your pop3
domain. So if they have hotmail, yahoo or some other free email address
you could have it sent there.

--
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
---------------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup and not to me directly so that everyone
can benefit from the information
"steven" <steven@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A4E03D97-4A15-461E-99DA-BB2F399347E3@microsoft.com...
hi

i am still having a problem with users sending emails to users with the
same
domain name but not in exchange

we are using pop accounts from isp, as the business others franchisees
email
addresses (over 500) so we can not set them all up on exchange in SBS

when we try and send an email to them, it gets bounce back
need a way for the emails to get out

thanks

Steven

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