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Adding Solaris 10 machine to Active Directory Authentication

 
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Paul
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:21 am    Post subject: Adding Solaris 10 machine to Active Directory Authentication Reply with quote

Hello all,

I am trying to join a Solaris 10 machine to a Windows 2003 domain using
LDAP. Does anyone know where documentation exists on how to do this.

Thanks
Paul
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Al Mulnick
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: Adding Solaris 10 machine to Active Directory Authentica Reply with quote

Can you be more specific? What exactly do you want to accomplish in the
end? Just to use LDAP auth?

You don't want any of the Kerberos integration?

This link might be useful, but if you can provide some more requirements it
might help to narrow it down some more.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/cits/interopmigration/unix/usecdirw/03wsdsu.mspx

As a side note, there are third party tools that will make the Solaris OS
integrate better into your AD environment. If this is more than one host,
you may want to look at products such as the one here
http://www.centrify.com


Al




"Paul" <kristypaul20012@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hello all,

I am trying to join a Solaris 10 machine to a Windows 2003 domain using
LDAP. Does anyone know where documentation exists on how to do this.

Thanks
Paul

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Joe Richards [MVP]
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Adding Solaris 10 machine to Active Directory Authentica Reply with quote

Well LDAP isn't used for authentication for machines joined to AD because LDAP
isn't an authentication protocol and is pretty insecure. Kerberos, which is
secure, is used. If you are looking at truly joining a domain you might want to
look at the offerings from Centrify or Vintela as they let a UNIX host truly
join an AD Domain.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Paul wrote:
Quote:
Hello all,

I am trying to join a Solaris 10 machine to a Windows 2003 domain using
LDAP. Does anyone know where documentation exists on how to do this.

Thanks
Paul

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Paul
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Adding Solaris 10 machine to Active Directory Authentica Reply with quote

In the end we would like to be able to save/delete/browse files from any
windows machine onto the Solaris machine and vise versa , and also be able
to use your Windows login to access the Solaris Machine. Yes Kerberose would
be preferred.


"Al Mulnick" <amulnick_No_SPAM@ncDOTrr.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Can you be more specific? What exactly do you want to accomplish in the
end? Just to use LDAP auth?

You don't want any of the Kerberos integration?

This link might be useful, but if you can provide some more requirements
it
might help to narrow it down some more.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/cits/interopmigration/unix/usec

dirw/03wsdsu.mspx
Quote:

As a side note, there are third party tools that will make the Solaris OS
integrate better into your AD environment. If this is more than one host,
you may want to look at products such as the one here
http://www.centrify.com


Al




"Paul" <kristypaul20012@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jcZEd.83170$dv1.11749@edtnps89...
Hello all,

I am trying to join a Solaris 10 machine to a Windows 2003 domain using
LDAP. Does anyone know where documentation exists on how to do this.

Thanks
Paul



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Paul
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:30 am    Post subject: Re: Adding Solaris 10 machine to Active Directory Authentica Reply with quote

Thanks - here is what I want to accomplish in the end.

Logging into the Solaris Machine with your Windows Login
Browse/Save/Delete folders and files from Windows to Solaris and vice versa.

Is LDAP needed in this case ?
Or is the only way to go , with something like Centrify ?
What about ADAM (Active Directory Application Mode) ?

Thanks for your help

Paul

"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#5k5nYF#EHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Well LDAP isn't used for authentication for machines joined to AD because
LDAP
isn't an authentication protocol and is pretty insecure. Kerberos, which
is
secure, is used. If you are looking at truly joining a domain you might
want to
look at the offerings from Centrify or Vintela as they let a UNIX host
truly
join an AD Domain.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Paul wrote:
Hello all,

I am trying to join a Solaris 10 machine to a Windows 2003 domain using
LDAP. Does anyone know where documentation exists on how to do this.

Thanks
Paul

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Joe Richards [MVP]
Guest





Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Adding Solaris 10 machine to Active Directory Authentica Reply with quote

AD/AM isn't going to do anything for you.

The products by Centrify and Vintela allow you to have a UNIX or LINUX machine
operate like a Windows machine. It hides all of the difficulties for you.

While it is possible to configure this stuff manually, the results either tend
to be complicated or insecure. I know one major company that spent the better
part of 2 years trying to implement kerberos on HP-UX and Solaris boxes using
Windows Servers as KDCs. It was more of an issue with the UNIX versions than
with Windows for the most part.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Paul wrote:
Quote:
Thanks - here is what I want to accomplish in the end.

Logging into the Solaris Machine with your Windows Login
Browse/Save/Delete folders and files from Windows to Solaris and vice versa.

Is LDAP needed in this case ?
Or is the only way to go , with something like Centrify ?
What about ADAM (Active Directory Application Mode) ?

Thanks for your help

Paul

"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#5k5nYF#EHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Well LDAP isn't used for authentication for machines joined to AD because

LDAP

isn't an authentication protocol and is pretty insecure. Kerberos, which

is

secure, is used. If you are looking at truly joining a domain you might

want to

look at the offerings from Centrify or Vintela as they let a UNIX host

truly

join an AD Domain.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Paul wrote:

Hello all,

I am trying to join a Solaris 10 machine to a Windows 2003 domain using
LDAP. Does anyone know where documentation exists on how to do this.

Thanks
Paul




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Paul
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Adding Solaris 10 machine to Active Directory Authentica Reply with quote

Thanks Joe - very much

Paul

"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
AD/AM isn't going to do anything for you.

The products by Centrify and Vintela allow you to have a UNIX or LINUX
machine
operate like a Windows machine. It hides all of the difficulties for you.

While it is possible to configure this stuff manually, the results either
tend
to be complicated or insecure. I know one major company that spent the
better
part of 2 years trying to implement kerberos on HP-UX and Solaris boxes
using
Windows Servers as KDCs. It was more of an issue with the UNIX versions
than
with Windows for the most part.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Paul wrote:
Thanks - here is what I want to accomplish in the end.

Logging into the Solaris Machine with your Windows Login
Browse/Save/Delete folders and files from Windows to Solaris and vice
versa.

Is LDAP needed in this case ?
Or is the only way to go , with something like Centrify ?
What about ADAM (Active Directory Application Mode) ?

Thanks for your help

Paul

"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#5k5nYF#EHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Well LDAP isn't used for authentication for machines joined to AD
because

LDAP

isn't an authentication protocol and is pretty insecure. Kerberos, which

is

secure, is used. If you are looking at truly joining a domain you might

want to

look at the offerings from Centrify or Vintela as they let a UNIX host

truly

join an AD Domain.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Paul wrote:

Hello all,

I am trying to join a Solaris 10 machine to a Windows 2003 domain using
LDAP. Does anyone know where documentation exists on how to do this.

Thanks
Paul




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Doug
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Re: Adding Solaris 10 machine to Active Directory Authentica Reply with quote

Sun has some related documents:

Extending Authentication in the Solaris 9 Operating System Using
Pluggable Authentication Modules (PAM)
http://www.sun.com/software/whitepapers/solaris9/pam.pdf
In particular you should look at pam_krb5.

System Administration Guide: Naming and Directory Services (DNS, NIS,
and LDAP)
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4556
In particular configuring the LDAP client and NSS

Solaris and LDAP Naming Services: Deploying LDAP in the Enterprise
http://www.sun.com/books/catalog/bialaski.xml

For commercial products:

http://www.vintela.com/
http://www.centrify.com/


For consulting help you might try:

Certified Security Solutions
http://www.css-security.com/

They have a tool called ADKadmin which can help with extracting
Kerberos keytables from Unix and other admin actions from Unix.
http://www.css-security.com/downloads.html

Doug
Paul wrote:

Quote:
Hello all,

I am trying to join a Solaris 10 machine to a Windows 2003 domain using
LDAP. Does anyone know where documentation exists on how to do this.

Thanks
Paul
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Doug
Guest





Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: Adding Solaris 10 machine to Active Directory Authentica Reply with quote

For sharing files you likely want to look into Samba.
This allows the Unix systems to access and share out windows style
SMB/CIFS shares.
http://www.samba.org/

There are also some products that can allow windows to interact with
Unix style NFS shares.

Some examples:
Reflection NFS Client from http://www.wrq.com
ViewNow InterDrive Client from http://www.netmanage.com
NFS Maestro from http://www.hummingbird.com

Of course if you want to do it seamlessly you may want to look at
consolidating your authentication systems.

A slight clarification, if you were going to set up your Solaris
machines to authenticate and get authorization information from Active
Directory (join the domain). You would typically set it up so that:

Authentication: Do this using Kerberos.
Authorization: Do this using LDAP but protect the LDAP bind and data
using SSL/TLS or Kerberos/GSS_API.

So LDAP isn't necessarily insecure it is just that many people don't
secure it.

Another source of information is the
Microsoft Solution Guide for Windows Security and Directory Services
for UNIX

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/cits/interopmigration/unix/usecdirw/00wsdsu.mspx

Unfortunately it doesn't cover SSL/TLS so for a complete solution you
should try the Vintela product or contact:

Certified Security Solutions
http://www.css-security.com/

PADL
http://www.padl.com/

Doug

Paul wrote:

Quote:
Thanks - here is what I want to accomplish in the end.

Logging into the Solaris Machine with your Windows Login
Browse/Save/Delete folders and files from Windows to Solaris and vice versa.

Is LDAP needed in this case ?
Or is the only way to go , with something like Centrify ?
What about ADAM (Active Directory Application Mode) ?

Thanks for your help

Paul

"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#5k5nYF#EHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Well LDAP isn't used for authentication for machines joined to AD because

LDAP

isn't an authentication protocol and is pretty insecure. Kerberos, which

is

secure, is used. If you are looking at truly joining a domain you might

want to

look at the offerings from Centrify or Vintela as they let a UNIX host

truly

join an AD Domain.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Paul wrote:

Hello all,

I am trying to join a Solaris 10 machine to a Windows 2003 domain using
LDAP. Does anyone know where documentation exists on how to do this.

Thanks
Paul




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