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Scott McDonald
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:25 am    Post subject: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

We are trying to add an xserve on our network and need it to pull active directory accounts from the Win DC, here's an article on how to do it but the method to do this requires a domain and forest name (yes I realize the below is a university how to for students/departments, but it still serves the purpose in mind):

http://www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/lansg/osx/os-x3-ad.html

Our domain was setup just as "domain.local" and it's the only domain thus no forest. Every time I try the process to bind the xserve I get the error: "An invalid domain and forest combination was specified. You should enter a fully qualified DNS name for the domain and forest"

I've tried:
forest = domain
forest = domain.local
forest = dc.domain.local

with domain always being:

domain = domain.local

Nothing works? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
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Scott
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Joe Richards [MVP]
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:20 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

Well a single domain is actually a forest. So your domain is domain.local and
your forest is domain.local. From the docs it looks like the forest setting
should be "domain".

I am wondering if the software doesn't like the .local tld on the domain.

joe

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Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
Quote:
We are trying to add an xserve on our network and need it to pull active
directory accounts from the Win DC, here's an article on how to do it
but the method to do this requires a domain and forest name (yes I
realize the below is a university how to for students/departments, but
it still serves the purpose in mind):

http://www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/lansg/osx/os-x3-ad.html

Our domain was setup just as "domain.local" and it's the only domain
thus no forest. Every time I try the process to bind the xserve I get
the error: "An invalid domain and forest combination was specified. You
should enter a fully qualified DNS name for the domain and forest"

I've tried:
forest = domain
forest = domain.local
forest = dc.domain.local

with domain always being:

domain = domain.local

Nothing works? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Scott
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Scott McDonald
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:23 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

could be...I've tried domain for the forest...never works...

Good Ol' Apple

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Scott
"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uVSxTKB%23EHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Well a single domain is actually a forest. So your domain is domain.local
and your forest is domain.local. From the docs it looks like the forest
setting should be "domain".

I am wondering if the software doesn't like the .local tld on the domain.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
We are trying to add an xserve on our network and need it to pull active
directory accounts from the Win DC, here's an article on how to do it but
the method to do this requires a domain and forest name (yes I realize
the below is a university how to for students/departments, but it still
serves the purpose in mind):
http://www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/lansg/osx/os-x3-ad.html
Our domain was setup just as "domain.local" and it's the only domain
thus no forest. Every time I try the process to bind the xserve I get the
error: "An invalid domain and forest combination was specified. You
should enter a fully qualified DNS name for the domain and forest"
I've tried:
forest = domain
forest = domain.local
forest = dc.domain.local
with domain always being:
domain = domain.local
Nothing works? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Scott
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Scott McDonald
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

I don't want to try this, but want to satisfy our Linux/Mac guys curiosity
on this, what about creating a sub domain or specifying a higher level
forest...Is this even possible? And wouldn't that cause problems in this
otherwise functional domain?

--
Scott
"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uVSxTKB%23EHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Well a single domain is actually a forest. So your domain is domain.local
and your forest is domain.local. From the docs it looks like the forest
setting should be "domain".

I am wondering if the software doesn't like the .local tld on the domain.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
We are trying to add an xserve on our network and need it to pull active
directory accounts from the Win DC, here's an article on how to do it but
the method to do this requires a domain and forest name (yes I realize
the below is a university how to for students/departments, but it still
serves the purpose in mind):
http://www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/lansg/osx/os-x3-ad.html
Our domain was setup just as "domain.local" and it's the only domain
thus no forest. Every time I try the process to bind the xserve I get the
error: "An invalid domain and forest combination was specified. You
should enter a fully qualified DNS name for the domain and forest"
I've tried:
forest = domain
forest = domain.local
forest = dc.domain.local
with domain always being:
domain = domain.local
Nothing works? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Scott
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Phillip Renouf
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:13 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

Try using the NetBIOS name of the domain for the domain input and put the
FQDN for the forest. I know it said to use the full dns name for both, but
it's worth a shot.

Phil

"Scott McDonald" wrote:

Quote:
could be...I've tried domain for the forest...never works...

Good Ol' Apple

--
Scott
"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uVSxTKB%23EHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Well a single domain is actually a forest. So your domain is domain.local
and your forest is domain.local. From the docs it looks like the forest
setting should be "domain".

I am wondering if the software doesn't like the .local tld on the domain.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
We are trying to add an xserve on our network and need it to pull active
directory accounts from the Win DC, here's an article on how to do it but
the method to do this requires a domain and forest name (yes I realize
the below is a university how to for students/departments, but it still
serves the purpose in mind):
http://www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/lansg/osx/os-x3-ad.html
Our domain was setup just as "domain.local" and it's the only domain
thus no forest. Every time I try the process to bind the xserve I get the
error: "An invalid domain and forest combination was specified. You
should enter a fully qualified DNS name for the domain and forest"
I've tried:
forest = domain
forest = domain.local
forest = dc.domain.local
with domain always being:
domain = domain.local
Nothing works? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Scott


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Scott McDonald
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:53 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

thanks, but tried that, didn't work either :-(

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Scott
"Phillip Renouf" <PhillipRenouf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:72048D0B-1A50-41F2-AFDD-124C79F937D5@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Try using the NetBIOS name of the domain for the domain input and put the
FQDN for the forest. I know it said to use the full dns name for both, but
it's worth a shot.

Phil

"Scott McDonald" wrote:

could be...I've tried domain for the forest...never works...

Good Ol' Apple

--
Scott
"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uVSxTKB%23EHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Well a single domain is actually a forest. So your domain is
domain.local
and your forest is domain.local. From the docs it looks like the forest
setting should be "domain".

I am wondering if the software doesn't like the .local tld on the
domain.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
We are trying to add an xserve on our network and need it to pull
active
directory accounts from the Win DC, here's an article on how to do it
but
the method to do this requires a domain and forest name (yes I realize
the below is a university how to for students/departments, but it
still
serves the purpose in mind):
http://www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/lansg/osx/os-x3-ad.html
Our domain was setup just as "domain.local" and it's the only domain
thus no forest. Every time I try the process to bind the xserve I get
the
error: "An invalid domain and forest combination was specified. You
should enter a fully qualified DNS name for the domain and forest"
I've tried:
forest = domain
forest = domain.local
forest = dc.domain.local
with domain always being:
domain = domain.local
Nothing works? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Scott


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Joe Richards [MVP]
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

You could try that but it might be simpler to create a new domain/forest with a
standard tld and see if it works.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
Quote:
I don't want to try this, but want to satisfy our Linux/Mac guys curiosity
on this, what about creating a sub domain or specifying a higher level
forest...Is this even possible? And wouldn't that cause problems in this
otherwise functional domain?
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Scott McDonald
Guest





Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:56 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

I'm wondering, if this turns out to be the case, that the .local tld is the
problem, why does MS allow that in creating the domain in the first place?

on the flip side, what is the purpose to limiting the tld to .com, .org etc?

Eh, just complaining I guess :-)

--
Scott
"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u2BriCC%23EHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Quote:
You could try that but it might be simpler to create a new domain/forest
with a standard tld and see if it works.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
I don't want to try this, but want to satisfy our Linux/Mac guys
curiosity on this, what about creating a sub domain or specifying a
higher level forest...Is this even possible? And wouldn't that cause
problems in this otherwise functional domain?
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Joe Richards [MVP]
Guest





Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

I don't think it is an MS problem... I am saying that maybe the issue is with
the software you are working with. I have made several domains in the past with
local as a tld and have been pretty successful with it.

joe



--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
Quote:
I'm wondering, if this turns out to be the case, that the .local tld is the
problem, why does MS allow that in creating the domain in the first place?

on the flip side, what is the purpose to limiting the tld to .com, .org etc?

Eh, just complaining I guess :-)
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Scott McDonald
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

it's an apple xserve running Apple OS X Server 10.3.6

The tld thing does make the most sense though and I wouldn't doubt Apple is
being anal about tld's having to be something that exist on the net only.
But, unfortunately for our mac users I'm not about to rename or rebuild the
domain so they can avoid entering authentication information every time they
hit the file server :-)

--
Scott
"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23cHdJnC%23EHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Quote:
I don't think it is an MS problem... I am saying that maybe the issue is
with the software you are working with. I have made several domains in the
past with local as a tld and have been pretty successful with it.

joe



--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
I'm wondering, if this turns out to be the case, that the .local tld is
the problem, why does MS allow that in creating the domain in the first
place?

on the flip side, what is the purpose to limiting the tld to .com, .org
etc?

Eh, just complaining I guess :-)
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Joe Richards [MVP]
Guest





Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

I would recommend spinning up a test forest and trying it, if it does work,
submit a bug to Apple.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
Quote:
it's an apple xserve running Apple OS X Server 10.3.6

The tld thing does make the most sense though and I wouldn't doubt Apple is
being anal about tld's having to be something that exist on the net only.
But, unfortunately for our mac users I'm not about to rename or rebuild the
domain so they can avoid entering authentication information every time they
hit the file server :-)
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Scott McDonald
Guest





Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

Actually I just found an article on Microsoft's site that pointed to a
script that needed to be run on the xserve to get it to lookup tld's in
rendezvous AND DNS (it was only looking at rendezvous by default. It's a
script located on Apples site, but only Microsoft's support search found it,
go figure...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;836413

thanks

--
Scott
"Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%2377uUWF%23EHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Quote:
I would recommend spinning up a test forest and trying it, if it does work,
submit a bug to Apple.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
it's an apple xserve running Apple OS X Server 10.3.6

The tld thing does make the most sense though and I wouldn't doubt Apple
is being anal about tld's having to be something that exist on the net
only. But, unfortunately for our mac users I'm not about to rename or
rebuild the domain so they can avoid entering authentication information
every time they hit the file server :-)
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Joe Richards [MVP]
Guest





Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: No Forest...Need Help... Reply with quote

LOL. That is pretty funny.

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Scott McDonald wrote:
Quote:
Actually I just found an article on Microsoft's site that pointed to a
script that needed to be run on the xserve to get it to lookup tld's in
rendezvous AND DNS (it was only looking at rendezvous by default. It's a
script located on Apples site, but only Microsoft's support search found it,
go figure...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;836413

thanks
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