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DCMETRO1
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject:
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I have read conflicting articles about what needs to be backed up for
succesfull restore of active directory. Some say systmem state only and
others say system state AND system partition (typically C drive). I am
having trouble restoring to hardware in a lab, thanks,
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Al Mulnick
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject:
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What is the trouble you're having in the lab?
Typically, a Full backup with systemstate is required.
"DCMETRO1" <DCMETRO1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have read conflicting articles about what needs to be backed up for
succesfull restore of active directory. Some say systmem state only and
others say system state AND system partition (typically C drive). I am
having trouble restoring to hardware in a lab, thanks,
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Jerold Schulman
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject:
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 05:05:02 -0800, "DCMETRO1" <DCMETRO1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I have read conflicting articles about what needs to be backed up for
succesfull restore of active directory. Some say systmem state only and
others say system state AND system partition (typically C drive). I am
having trouble restoring to hardware in a lab, thanks,
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If you are trying to restore to new hardware, System State and C:
If you are trying to restore to a working platform that you backup up,
the System State may be sufficent.
Jerold Schulman
Windows Server MVP
JSI, Inc.
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DCMETRO1
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject:
Re: Backup what to Restore AD |
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seems very confusing, Microsoft states that you only need to "backup" the
system state of a domain controller. Are you saying that if you installin in
a lab on identical hardware that you need to backup the system state AND the
system partition? Thanks,
"Jerold Schulman" wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 05:05:02 -0800, "DCMETRO1" <DCMETRO1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
I have read conflicting articles about what needs to be backed up for
succesfull restore of active directory. Some say systmem state only and
others say system state AND system partition (typically C drive). I am
having trouble restoring to hardware in a lab, thanks,
If you are trying to restore to new hardware, System State and C:
If you are trying to restore to a working platform that you backup up,
the System State may be sufficent.
Jerold Schulman
Windows Server MVP
JSI, Inc.
http://www.jsiinc.com
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ptwilliams
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:26 am Post subject:
Re: Backup what to Restore AD |
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If you want to mimic an existing environment then yes, you need all the
files on the C drive too (realistically, you could fudge it no doubt).
If you simply wish to restore your AD then again, the best way is with both.
However the simple fact of the matter is that to get a DC back up and
running you only need the system state.#
....However...without the C drive, i.e. program files, you'll have a whole
bunch of errors and the like when it's back up and running, e.g. missing
program files being referenced in the registry, etc.
System state - minimum needed.
Entire Drive (minus the swap file) - for best results.
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Paul Williams
http://www.msresource.net/
http://forums.msresource.net/
"DCMETRO1" <DCMETRO1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D7FEE872-B76F-4325-9C9C-7EFEE60024BA@microsoft.com...
seems very confusing, Microsoft states that you only need to "backup" the
system state of a domain controller. Are you saying that if you installin
in
a lab on identical hardware that you need to backup the system state AND the
system partition? Thanks,
"Jerold Schulman" wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 05:05:02 -0800, "DCMETRO1"
DCMETRO1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
I have read conflicting articles about what needs to be backed up for
succesfull restore of active directory. Some say systmem state only and
others say system state AND system partition (typically C drive). I am
having trouble restoring to hardware in a lab, thanks,
If you are trying to restore to new hardware, System State and C:
If you are trying to restore to a working platform that you backup up,
the System State may be sufficent.
Jerold Schulman
Windows Server MVP
JSI, Inc.
http://www.jsiinc.com
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DCMETRO1
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject:
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this is what I have gaithered even though it is not exactly spelled out
anwhere... there is a KB article 263532 "....restoration of AD on different
computer" however, my server in my lab has the same exact hardware specs and
bios revs so I should be able to just restore system state.... but I cannot.
This is very unfortunate as it appears that it can not be done without the
system partition... and since it is a DC on our servers that include 3
drives, C for system partition, D for database and E for logs.... and again,
lab server is setup identical.
"ptwilliams" wrote:
| Quote: | If you want to mimic an existing environment then yes, you need all the
files on the C drive too (realistically, you could fudge it no doubt).
If you simply wish to restore your AD then again, the best way is with both.
However the simple fact of the matter is that to get a DC back up and
running you only need the system state.#
....However...without the C drive, i.e. program files, you'll have a whole
bunch of errors and the like when it's back up and running, e.g. missing
program files being referenced in the registry, etc.
System state - minimum needed.
Entire Drive (minus the swap file) - for best results.
--
Paul Williams
http://www.msresource.net/
http://forums.msresource.net/
"DCMETRO1" <DCMETRO1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D7FEE872-B76F-4325-9C9C-7EFEE60024BA@microsoft.com...
seems very confusing, Microsoft states that you only need to "backup" the
system state of a domain controller. Are you saying that if you installin
in
a lab on identical hardware that you need to backup the system state AND the
system partition? Thanks,
"Jerold Schulman" wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 05:05:02 -0800, "DCMETRO1"
DCMETRO1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
I have read conflicting articles about what needs to be backed up for
succesfull restore of active directory. Some say systmem state only and
others say system state AND system partition (typically C drive). I am
having trouble restoring to hardware in a lab, thanks,
If you are trying to restore to new hardware, System State and C:
If you are trying to restore to a working platform that you backup up,
the System State may be sufficent.
Jerold Schulman
Windows Server MVP
JSI, Inc.
http://www.jsiinc.com
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ptwilliams
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:09 am Post subject:
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It's almost a dark art. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
You have to think logically.
If you don't do a full restore, then DNS needs to be in place for anything
to start.
Also, just because the database and log files are on different drives
doesn't mean you have to backup all drives. The system state backs up
these. You could restore the C drive, create D and E and then restore the
system state.
--
Paul Williams
http://www.msresource.net/
http://forums.msresource.net/
"DCMETRO1" <DCMETRO1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D137572B-1C2A-46BF-80AE-5CAA72760884@microsoft.com...
this is what I have gaithered even though it is not exactly spelled out
anwhere... there is a KB article 263532 "....restoration of AD on different
computer" however, my server in my lab has the same exact hardware specs and
bios revs so I should be able to just restore system state.... but I cannot.
This is very unfortunate as it appears that it can not be done without the
system partition... and since it is a DC on our servers that include 3
drives, C for system partition, D for database and E for logs.... and again,
lab server is setup identical.
"ptwilliams" wrote:
| Quote: | If you want to mimic an existing environment then yes, you need all the
files on the C drive too (realistically, you could fudge it no doubt).
If you simply wish to restore your AD then again, the best way is with
both.
However the simple fact of the matter is that to get a DC back up and
running you only need the system state.#
....However...without the C drive, i.e. program files, you'll have a whole
bunch of errors and the like when it's back up and running, e.g. missing
program files being referenced in the registry, etc.
System state - minimum needed.
Entire Drive (minus the swap file) - for best results.
--
Paul Williams
http://www.msresource.net/
http://forums.msresource.net/
"DCMETRO1" <DCMETRO1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D7FEE872-B76F-4325-9C9C-7EFEE60024BA@microsoft.com...
seems very confusing, Microsoft states that you only need to "backup" the
system state of a domain controller. Are you saying that if you installin
in
a lab on identical hardware that you need to backup the system state AND
the
system partition? Thanks,
"Jerold Schulman" wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 05:05:02 -0800, "DCMETRO1"
DCMETRO1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
I have read conflicting articles about what needs to be backed up for
succesfull restore of active directory. Some say systmem state only
and
others say system state AND system partition (typically C drive). I am
having trouble restoring to hardware in a lab, thanks,
If you are trying to restore to new hardware, System State and C:
If you are trying to restore to a working platform that you backup up,
the System State may be sufficent.
Jerold Schulman
Windows Server MVP
JSI, Inc.
http://www.jsiinc.com
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