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Shadow
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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Hi all...............well, I trashed Exchange (darn!) while trying to fix
another problem with IIS. So I have turned off my mail proxy gateway to
send all incoming mail to my ISP who acts as a backup mail server. Well since
that happened, I decided to reinstall SBS since the installation is 2 + years
old and it would be a good (?) time to reformat the hard disk and get rid of
the accumulated "trash". Since that server is the DC (I didn't configure a
backup DC) I want to do this right with the least amount (I prefer NO
problems) of issues and problems and get the DC back on line ASAP. I
downloaded the exmerge utility and will run it. I opened Outlook and
exported the contacts and various "must have" folders also. Anything else I
should do? Any advice BEFORE I attempt this? |
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SuperGumby [SBS MVP]
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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considering the alternatives, I'd try and fix what's broken.
"Shadow" <Shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I will go to their site and read about their product.....but I was hoping
to
get this done this weekend when things were "quiet".......all this
happened
because I fooled around with IIS trying to "fix" my Sharepoiint
website..............smack me with a rolled up newspaper!
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Kristian Miles
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
RE: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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"Kristian Miles" wrote:
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"Shadow" wrote:
One more thing.....I am not renaming the domain.......will I have to go to
each workstation and rejoin the domain?
I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only one
server is allowed to run AD. you can try running a full IDR/ASR backup within
windows. format and hope to god that it restores. But in my experiance it
doesn't. Secondly you could buy a new server. Install SBS and do a migration.
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Strike that last comment. I misread your question. You will need to bring
the machines back onto the domain I.E take off then rejoin because there are
Various SIDs that will need to be replaced. Which also means you will lose
the profiles on the client machines. |
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Les Connor [SBS Community
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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Hi Shadow and Kristian,
| Quote: | I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only one
server is allowed to run AD.
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Common fallacy. You can have as many DC's as you want - up to 74 of them if
you have 75 SBS CALs.
Shadow, as others have indicated - if you reinstall you create a new domain,
and you'd need to re-join the client computers regardless.
Depending on the number of workstations you have, you may elect to go that
route. There are several other options that may or may not suit you.
http://www.swingmigration.com gives you a procedure to save you AD domain,
eliminating the need to do anything at the workstations.
If exchange is the main issue, getting some assistance to repair that is
another option.
--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
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SBS Rocks !
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"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius
"Kristian Miles" <KristianMiles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DA22E3B1-5B4C-4A93-8601-491ED97E39D2@microsoft.com...
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"Shadow" wrote:
One more thing.....I am not renaming the domain.......will I have to go
to
each workstation and rejoin the domain?
I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only one
server is allowed to run AD. you can try running a full IDR/ASR backup
within
windows. format and hope to god that it restores. But in my experiance it
doesn't. Secondly you could buy a new server. Install SBS and do a
migration. |
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Les Connor [SBS Community
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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whoops. http://www.sbsmigration.com
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Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
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SBS Rocks !
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"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius
"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca>
wrote in message news:OR77tfv5FHA.268@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Hi Shadow and Kristian,
I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only
one
server is allowed to run AD.
Common fallacy. You can have as many DC's as you want - up to 74 of them
if you have 75 SBS CALs.
Shadow, as others have indicated - if you reinstall you create a new
domain, and you'd need to re-join the client computers regardless.
Depending on the number of workstations you have, you may elect to go that
route. There are several other options that may or may not suit you.
http://www.swingmigration.com gives you a procedure to save you AD domain,
eliminating the need to do anything at the workstations.
If exchange is the main issue, getting some assistance to repair that is
another option.
--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
----------------------
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius
"Kristian Miles" <KristianMiles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:DA22E3B1-5B4C-4A93-8601-491ED97E39D2@microsoft.com...
"Shadow" wrote:
One more thing.....I am not renaming the domain.......will I have to go
to
each workstation and rejoin the domain?
I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only
one
server is allowed to run AD. you can try running a full IDR/ASR backup
within
windows. format and hope to god that it restores. But in my experiance it
doesn't. Secondly you could buy a new server. Install SBS and do a
migration.
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Kristian Miles
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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If thats true then i am shocked. I have tried on numerous occasions to run
two DC's on an SBS network without success. After more research on microsoft
website i was told that you are not allowed more than one DC (not member
server) on an SBS domain. Apologies and thank you for enlightenment though if
i am wrong.
"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS M" wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Shadow and Kristian,
I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only one
server is allowed to run AD.
Common fallacy. You can have as many DC's as you want - up to 74 of them if
you have 75 SBS CALs.
Shadow, as others have indicated - if you reinstall you create a new domain,
and you'd need to re-join the client computers regardless.
Depending on the number of workstations you have, you may elect to go that
route. There are several other options that may or may not suit you.
http://www.swingmigration.com gives you a procedure to save you AD domain,
eliminating the need to do anything at the workstations.
If exchange is the main issue, getting some assistance to repair that is
another option.
--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
----------------------
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius
"Kristian Miles" <KristianMiles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DA22E3B1-5B4C-4A93-8601-491ED97E39D2@microsoft.com...
"Shadow" wrote:
One more thing.....I am not renaming the domain.......will I have to go
to
each workstation and rejoin the domain?
I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only one
server is allowed to run AD. you can try running a full IDR/ASR backup
within
windows. format and hope to god that it restores. But in my experiance it
doesn't. Secondly you could buy a new server. Install SBS and do a
migration.
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Shadow
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
RE: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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My W2K server used to be a backup DC on my SBS network but I demoted it (I
thought a backup DC wasn't needed) and am now using it as my ASP.NET website
and a secondary DNS server........sounds like I have much work
ahead......reformatting the DC...........and going to each workstation and re
joining the domain..........anything else I should be aware of? |
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Steve
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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As Les mentioned check out swing migration as the means to alleviate
rejoining all workstations to the domain.
"Shadow" <Shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:979E347E-3E87-40C1-A0D3-1CCB8799EAC9@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | My W2K server used to be a backup DC on my SBS network but I demoted it (I
thought a backup DC wasn't needed) and am now using it as my ASP.NET
website
and a secondary DNS server........sounds like I have much work
ahead......reformatting the DC...........and going to each workstation and
re
joining the domain..........anything else I should be aware of? |
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Steve
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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You can't have more than 1 SBS but you can have multiple DCs in the SBS
domain.
See Susan's blog: http://msmvps.com/bradley/archive/2004/08/09/11532.aspx
"Kristian Miles" <KristianMiles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F4263182-6376-480B-9512-B63E49456A62@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | If thats true then i am shocked. I have tried on numerous occasions to run
two DC's on an SBS network without success. After more research on
microsoft
website i was told that you are not allowed more than one DC (not member
server) on an SBS domain. Apologies and thank you for enlightenment though
if
i am wrong.
"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS M" wrote:
Hi Shadow and Kristian,
I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only
one
server is allowed to run AD.
Common fallacy. You can have as many DC's as you want - up to 74 of them
if
you have 75 SBS CALs.
Shadow, as others have indicated - if you reinstall you create a new
domain,
and you'd need to re-join the client computers regardless.
Depending on the number of workstations you have, you may elect to go
that
route. There are several other options that may or may not suit you.
http://www.swingmigration.com gives you a procedure to save you AD
domain,
eliminating the need to do anything at the workstations.
If exchange is the main issue, getting some assistance to repair that is
another option.
--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
----------------------
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius
"Kristian Miles" <KristianMiles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:DA22E3B1-5B4C-4A93-8601-491ED97E39D2@microsoft.com...
"Shadow" wrote:
One more thing.....I am not renaming the domain.......will I have to
go
to
each workstation and rejoin the domain?
I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only
one
server is allowed to run AD. you can try running a full IDR/ASR backup
within
windows. format and hope to god that it restores. But in my experiance
it
doesn't. Secondly you could buy a new server. Install SBS and do a
migration.
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Jared G
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
RE: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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Try using the SWING-IT method by Jeff Middleton. You can backup your existing
Exchange stores and other data use a temp DC to copy AD and other metadata
and then finaly swing back to the original server hardware running the new
SBS 2003 install. This is mainly done by just installing disk one of SBS 2003
server and then moving around your DC roles to the temp server and then back
to your new diak 1 install of SBS 2003. Then you can clean up the AD
metadata and proceed with disk 1-4 again to complete the SBS install. This
method works great, I have used a full swing and half swing method to delpoy
and update alot of server to new hardware or back to the same hardwae set.
--
Small Business Specialist
Microsoft MCP
Network+
MS OEM Preinstallation Specialist
"Shadow" wrote:
| Quote: | My W2K server used to be a backup DC on my SBS network but I demoted it (I
thought a backup DC wasn't needed) and am now using it as my ASP.NET website
and a secondary DNS server........sounds like I have much work
ahead......reformatting the DC...........and going to each workstation and re
joining the domain..........anything else I should be aware of? |
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SuperGumby [SBS MVP]
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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as Les has indicated, SBS allows multiple DC's. The restriction being that
SBS must hold all FSMO roles (and be a GC).
How have you tried to add the DC's?
I would:
Create a server account on the SBS using the 'Set up server computers' link
in the SBS console (Server Management), including assigning it a static IP.
Install the new server as part of a workgroup and when install is finished
use the \\sbs\\connectcomputer process to join the domain.
DCPromo in the normal manner.
"Kristian Miles" <KristianMiles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F4263182-6376-480B-9512-B63E49456A62@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | If thats true then i am shocked. I have tried on numerous occasions to run
two DC's on an SBS network without success. After more research on
microsoft
website i was told that you are not allowed more than one DC (not member
server) on an SBS domain. Apologies and thank you for enlightenment though
if
i am wrong.
"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS M" wrote:
Hi Shadow and Kristian,
I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only
one
server is allowed to run AD.
Common fallacy. You can have as many DC's as you want - up to 74 of them
if
you have 75 SBS CALs.
Shadow, as others have indicated - if you reinstall you create a new
domain,
and you'd need to re-join the client computers regardless.
Depending on the number of workstations you have, you may elect to go
that
route. There are several other options that may or may not suit you.
http://www.swingmigration.com gives you a procedure to save you AD
domain,
eliminating the need to do anything at the workstations.
If exchange is the main issue, getting some assistance to repair that is
another option.
--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
----------------------
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius
"Kristian Miles" <KristianMiles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:DA22E3B1-5B4C-4A93-8601-491ED97E39D2@microsoft.com...
"Shadow" wrote:
One more thing.....I am not renaming the domain.......will I have to
go
to
each workstation and rejoin the domain?
I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only
one
server is allowed to run AD. you can try running a full IDR/ASR backup
within
windows. format and hope to god that it restores. But in my experiance
it
doesn't. Secondly you could buy a new server. Install SBS and do a
migration.
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Shadow
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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I will go to their site and read about their product.....but I was hoping to
get this done this weekend when things were "quiet".......all this happened
because I fooled around with IIS trying to "fix" my Sharepoiint
website..............smack me with a rolled up newspaper! |
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TimeTraveller
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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Hi,
Ok Swing Migration would enable you to keep the existing AD etc.
However! if you currently have problems on the system then it may be in a
too broken state to migrate correctly.
Why not tell us some more info and event messages etc. in fact as much as
you can copy/paste Type we can then advise the best way to fix..
We fix broken servers all the Time, if its booting its usually fixable,
might just need another pair of Eyes on the problem
Do you have backup tapes?
TT.
"Shadow" <Shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:595817C3-4E1E-4870-A734-8B370B6C380C@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | That's how I got into this mess.....trying to "fix" what was broken! I
had
done something to Sharepoint and the Sharepoint site disappeared and since
I
never needed it, I didn't worry about it....then I needed Sharepoint and
tried to fix the problems and bang....Exchange went out....tried to fix
that
and it was bouncing all incoming mail
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Amnon Feiner
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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PLONK!!!
As many DC as you want, only one FSMO
--
A. Feiner
The Real Shrek
http://www.woodcontour.com
Solid Wood and Stone PC Peripherals
"Kristian Miles" <KristianMiles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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"Shadow" wrote:
One more thing.....I am not renaming the domain.......will I have to go
to
each workstation and rejoin the domain?
I am afraid to say. You cannot have a backup DC on an SBS server. Only one
server is allowed to run AD. you can try running a full IDR/ASR backup
within
windows. format and hope to god that it restores. But in my experiance it
doesn't. Secondly you could buy a new server. Install SBS and do a
migration. |
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Shadow
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Re-Install of SBS 2003 |
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That's how I got into this mess.....trying to "fix" what was broken! I had
done something to Sharepoint and the Sharepoint site disappeared and since I
never needed it, I didn't worry about it....then I needed Sharepoint and
tried to fix the problems and bang....Exchange went out....tried to fix that
and it was bouncing all incoming mail |
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