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msimas
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Domain c Reply with quote
Hi There,

I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine in a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me to move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start over?

Thanks,

Marcelo
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msimas
Guest
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
This is not an option now, so what are my alternatives? What if I install
windows server 2003 instead of SBS, would that help?

Thanks,

M

"Jim Staunton" wrote:

Quote:

"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9F12C3C6-1BAD-4575-A4BB-28D1C7483787@microsoft.com...
"msimas" wrote:
I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine in a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me to
move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start over?

Just as a segway the existing domain controller is an SBS 2003 box. Sorry
about the omission.

The new SBS2003 box will have to replace the old one, you can't run two
SBS2003 servers in the same domain (apart for a limited time period of
migration purposes).



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Frank McCallister SBS MVP
Guest
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
Yes you mave have member or DC servers in a SBS Domain as long as SBS
continues to maintain the FSMO roles.

--
Frank McCallister SBS MVP
COMPUMAC
"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
This is not an option now, so what are my alternatives? What if I install
windows server 2003 instead of SBS, would that help?

Thanks,

M

"Jim Staunton" wrote:


"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9F12C3C6-1BAD-4575-A4BB-28D1C7483787@microsoft.com...
"msimas" wrote:
I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine
in a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me
to
move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start
over?

Just as a segway the existing domain controller is an SBS 2003 box.
Sorry
about the omission.

The new SBS2003 box will have to replace the old one, you can't run two
SBS2003 servers in the same domain (apart for a limited time period of
migration purposes).



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msimas
Guest
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
So how do I turn this new SBS box into a member server of the existing SBS
domain?

Thanks,

Marcelo

"Frank McCallister SBS MVP" wrote:

Quote:
Yes you mave have member or DC servers in a SBS Domain as long as SBS
continues to maintain the FSMO roles.

--
Frank McCallister SBS MVP
COMPUMAC
"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0314A1D2-4572-4480-8791-BD98D07564CB@microsoft.com...
This is not an option now, so what are my alternatives? What if I install
windows server 2003 instead of SBS, would that help?

Thanks,

M

"Jim Staunton" wrote:


"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9F12C3C6-1BAD-4575-A4BB-28D1C7483787@microsoft.com...
"msimas" wrote:
I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine
in a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me
to
move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start
over?

Just as a segway the existing domain controller is an SBS 2003 box.
Sorry
about the omission.

The new SBS2003 box will have to replace the old one, you can't run two
SBS2003 servers in the same domain (apart for a limited time period of
migration purposes).






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msimas
Guest
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: RE: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
Just as a segway the existing domain controller is an SBS 2003 box. Sorry
about the omission.

Marcelo

"msimas" wrote:

Quote:
Hi There,

I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine in a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me to move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start over?

Thanks,

Marcelo
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Jim Staunton
Guest
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9F12C3C6-1BAD-4575-A4BB-28D1C7483787@microsoft.com...
Quote:
"msimas" wrote:
I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine in a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me to
move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start over?

Just as a segway the existing domain controller is an SBS 2003 box. Sorry
about the omission.

The new SBS2003 box will have to replace the old one, you can't run two
SBS2003 servers in the same domain (apart for a limited time period of
migration purposes).
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Les Connor [SBS Community
Guest
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
ooops, I missed the fact that the existing server is sbs ;-(.

As others have indicated, only one SBS box per domain. Don't even think of
using the SBS disk set to install only the OS portion, that will bite you.
You need WS 2k3.

--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
----------------------
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius


"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:90A02AA3-0C31-46B3-9EA3-471B72E04440@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Hi There,

I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine in a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me to
move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start over?

Thanks,

Marcelo
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Les Connor [SBS Community
Guest
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
Hi msimas,

If you want SBS, then it has to be at the root of the forest. So if you're
not OK with that, then SBS isn't for you.

But you can bring SBS into an existing domain.

a) install the OS, using the first disk (w2k3 server) only - at this point
(don't continue with SBS setup).
b) join this (to be sbs) box to the domain, make it a DC, sieze roles, and
allow AD replication.
c) complete the SBS setup.

I'm not sure if this is a MS approved and/or documented migration scenario,
but it certainly is possible with the swing procedure at
http://www.sbsmigration.com, or a variation thereof.

--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
----------------------
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius


"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:90A02AA3-0C31-46B3-9EA3-471B72E04440@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Hi There,

I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine in a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me to
move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start over?

Thanks,

Marcelo
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Steve
Guest
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
Purchase Windows 2003 server and reinstall with that. You can't use the SBS
media.

"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:99920C85-F1FA-4CC0-B577-28FA5540438D@microsoft.com...
Quote:
So how do I turn this new SBS box into a member server of the existing SBS
domain?

Thanks,

Marcelo

"Frank McCallister SBS MVP" wrote:

Yes you mave have member or DC servers in a SBS Domain as long as SBS
continues to maintain the FSMO roles.

--
Frank McCallister SBS MVP
COMPUMAC
"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0314A1D2-4572-4480-8791-BD98D07564CB@microsoft.com...
This is not an option now, so what are my alternatives? What if I
install
windows server 2003 instead of SBS, would that help?

Thanks,

M

"Jim Staunton" wrote:


"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9F12C3C6-1BAD-4575-A4BB-28D1C7483787@microsoft.com...
"msimas" wrote:
I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db
machine
in a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for
me
to
move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start
over?

Just as a segway the existing domain controller is an SBS 2003 box.
Sorry
about the omission.

The new SBS2003 box will have to replace the old one, you can't run
two
SBS2003 servers in the same domain (apart for a limited time period of
migration purposes).






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msimas
Guest
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
Let me rephrase myself. How to I prevent the new SBS box from trying to
control the FSMO tables and agreeing to be a member of the existing SBS
domain?

Thanks,

M

"msimas" wrote:

Quote:
So how do I turn this new SBS box into a member server of the existing SBS
domain?

Thanks,

Marcelo

"Frank McCallister SBS MVP" wrote:

Yes you mave have member or DC servers in a SBS Domain as long as SBS
continues to maintain the FSMO roles.

--
Frank McCallister SBS MVP
COMPUMAC
"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0314A1D2-4572-4480-8791-BD98D07564CB@microsoft.com...
This is not an option now, so what are my alternatives? What if I install
windows server 2003 instead of SBS, would that help?

Thanks,

M

"Jim Staunton" wrote:


"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9F12C3C6-1BAD-4575-A4BB-28D1C7483787@microsoft.com...
"msimas" wrote:
I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine
in a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me
to
move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start
over?

Just as a segway the existing domain controller is an SBS 2003 box.
Sorry
about the omission.

The new SBS2003 box will have to replace the old one, you can't run two
SBS2003 servers in the same domain (apart for a limited time period of
migration purposes).






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Jim Staunton
Guest
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A514E558-C955-4331-9A9C-B911F2722DE6@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Let me rephrase myself. How to I prevent the new SBS box from trying to
control the FSMO tables and agreeing to be a member of the existing SBS
domain?

The cheap answer is: by installing Windows Server 2003 on it

SBS2003 will not do what you want. You need "vanilla" Windows Server 2003.

James
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msimas
Guest
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
Thanks everyone for the help, I will go ahead and try the Windows 2003
vanilla setup. Y'all have a good weekend... ;-)

"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS M" wrote:

Quote:
ooops, I missed the fact that the existing server is sbs ;-(.

As others have indicated, only one SBS box per domain. Don't even think of
using the SBS disk set to install only the OS portion, that will bite you.
You need WS 2k3.

--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
----------------------
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius


"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:90A02AA3-0C31-46B3-9EA3-471B72E04440@microsoft.com...
Hi There,

I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine in a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me to
move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start over?

Thanks,

Marcelo


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Andrew M. Saucci, Jr.
Guest
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
But with SBS 2003, isn't installing into an existing domain a
supported option? I have a feeling that I may need to do this sooner or
later.

"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca>
wrote in message news:%23mSEs6i5FHA.156@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Quote:
ooops, I missed the fact that the existing server is sbs ;-(.

As others have indicated, only one SBS box per domain. Don't even think of
using the SBS disk set to install only the OS portion, that will bite you.
You need WS 2k3.

--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
----------------------
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius


"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:90A02AA3-0C31-46B3-9EA3-471B72E04440@microsoft.com...
Hi There,

I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine in
a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me to
move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start
over?

Thanks,

Marcelo

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Steve
Guest
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Installing SBS 2003 on a Network that already has a Doma Reply with quote
Yes its supported. After you have followed the proper procedure the SBS will
be "boss" with all the FSMO roles.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/884453/en-us

"Andrew M. Saucci, Jr." <spam-only@anti-grunge.org> wrote in message
news:eca5Nbz5FHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Quote:
But with SBS 2003, isn't installing into an existing domain a
supported option? I have a feeling that I may need to do this sooner or
later.

"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca
wrote in message news:%23mSEs6i5FHA.156@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
ooops, I missed the fact that the existing server is sbs ;-(.

As others have indicated, only one SBS box per domain. Don't even think
of
using the SBS disk set to install only the OS portion, that will bite
you.
You need WS 2k3.

--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
----------------------
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius


"msimas" <msimas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:90A02AA3-0C31-46B3-9EA3-471B72E04440@microsoft.com...
Hi There,

I am trying to setup a new SBS 2003 server as a dedicaded db machine in
a
network that already has a domain controller. Is there a way for me to
move
it into the existing domain? What do I need to do? Should I start
over?

Thanks,

Marcelo



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