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Johnny Wright
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:
NT Backup and Restore |
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I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C drive and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of a server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state created earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new (different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers are IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is there a way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from one server to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive way to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our servers with apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives could then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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cristalink
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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Try using ASR backup and restore. This will save the entire system
partition. You'll need the Windows Setup CD-ROM to restore.
--
http://www.firestreamer.com
Use Microsoft Backup with DVD, HDD, Iomega REV,
encryption, compression, x64, IA-64, more!
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C drive and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of a server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new (different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers are IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is there a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from one server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive way to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our servers with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack |
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Pegasus (MVP)
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C drive and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of a server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new (different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers are IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is there a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from one server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive way to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our servers with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack |
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Johnny Wright
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels looking to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are looking for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one or I think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then I will do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
| Quote: | Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C drive and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of a server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new (different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers are IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is there a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from one server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive way to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our servers with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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Pegasus (MVP)
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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You seem to miss the point.
When you multi-post, you start a separate thread in several newsgroups.
Replies made by one respondent cannot be seen by other respondents.
This leads to duplication of effort.
When you cross-post (by placing several newsgroup names into the
address field, separated by semi-colons) then your post and all the
responses are visible to everyone in each newsgroup. You get your
posting in multiple newsgroups and a quicker answer but there will
be no duplication of effort.
While your wish to solve your problem quickly is understandable,
you need familiarise yourself with newsgroup etiquette. After all
you're asking strangers to help you solve your problem. Seeing
that I gave you a detailed reply in a different newsgroup, it is hardly
productive to call me a troll in this newsgroup. In fact you did not
even bother to acknowledge my post in the other newsgroup even
though it most likely solves your problem.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:683A3A99-5F71-4BDA-BF78-29D93E026868@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels looking
to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are looking for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one or I
think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then I will
do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C drive
and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of a
server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new (different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers are
IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is there
a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from one
server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive way to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our servers
with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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Nospam
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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With a reply like that, SOD you.
Someone try's to help you and you reply like that. I recommend you learn how
to use news groups before telling people off.
PLONK.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:683A3A99-5F71-4BDA-BF78-29D93E026868@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels looking
to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are looking for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one or I
think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then I will
do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C drive
and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of a
server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new (different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers are
IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is there
a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from one
server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive way to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our servers
with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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Johnny Wright
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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And yet another insightful response from the gallary. Telling me to purchase
third party software is hardly trying to help when I expicitly stated that I
wanted to use MS Backup. I thought I typed that in plain english but I
suppose some do tend to ignore and spew out what they themselves want hear.
I am willing to bet the two of you have matching pocket protectors.
As far as learning to use a newgroup, I am completely dumbfounded that
someone is so anal retentivie about a post in 2 differnt groups that they use
up their valueable time just to scould another. This truth is I simply do
not care what you think.. no really, I don't. You use this board as you see
fit and I will continue to do the same. If I were to get an email from MS
suggesting a different way to post then and only then would I change my
practice. I have a recommendation of my own. Why don't cretians such as
yourself create your own board and wine and bitch back and forth. It was the
intelligent community I was soliciting a response from anyway.
"Nospam" wrote:
| Quote: | With a reply like that, SOD you.
Someone try's to help you and you reply like that. I recommend you learn how
to use news groups before telling people off.
PLONK.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:683A3A99-5F71-4BDA-BF78-29D93E026868@microsoft.com...
Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels looking
to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are looking for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one or I
think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then I will
do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C drive
and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of a
server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new (different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers are
IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is there
a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from one
server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive way to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our servers
with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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Nospam
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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So you think it is OK to do as you want and ignore the wishes of the regular
users of this group?
Fine.
| Quote: | If I were to get an email from MS suggesting a different way to post then
and only then would I change my
practice.
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You have read the group charter for using MS News Groups have you?. If so
then why are you ignoring them!!
| Quote: | It was the intelligent community I was soliciting a response from anyway.
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Then why respond as YOU did when someone try's to help you?
Bye
(Don't bother replying as I won't see it as I've now put you in my kill file
so I don't have to read your ranting).
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:18FFC5CC-FC2B-484C-BE9B-0993D5A291B2@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | And yet another insightful response from the gallary. Telling me to
purchase
third party software is hardly trying to help when I expicitly stated that
I
wanted to use MS Backup. I thought I typed that in plain english but I
suppose some do tend to ignore and spew out what they themselves want
hear.
I am willing to bet the two of you have matching pocket protectors.
As far as learning to use a newgroup, I am completely dumbfounded that
someone is so anal retentivie about a post in 2 differnt groups that they
use
up their valueable time just to scould another. This truth is I simply do
not care what you think.. no really, I don't. You use this board as you
see
fit and I will continue to do the same. If I were to get an email from MS
suggesting a different way to post then and only then would I change my
practice. I have a recommendation of my own. Why don't cretians such as
yourself create your own board and wine and bitch back and forth. It was
the
intelligent community I was soliciting a response from anyway.
"Nospam" wrote:
With a reply like that, SOD you.
Someone try's to help you and you reply like that. I recommend you learn
how
to use news groups before telling people off.
PLONK.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:683A3A99-5F71-4BDA-BF78-29D93E026868@microsoft.com...
Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels
looking
to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are looking
for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one or I
think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then I
will
do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C
drive
and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of
a
server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state
created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new
(different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers
are
IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is
there
a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from
one
server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive
way to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of
the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our
servers
with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives
could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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Kerry Brown
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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You are giving the rest of us Canadians a bad name. We are known for being
polite. You must be from Toronto.
Kerry
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B0E350D-2564-4FDF-BE70-4BF0DACDBDDA@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Gottcha. No one should help anyone as rude as me. I should be happy with
the pat answer of " I use this" .. "go buy it and your troubles will be
over". After all it is from very busy people like yourself. I thought I
had
asked a simple, clear, concise question but the only thing I have learned
so
far is that pocket protectors apparently come in packs of 3.
And yes ol wise one, I am sure you found the answer. I guess it is those
weeks of experience that helped you out on that. Now please run along and
play with your friends.
This has been fun. Anyone else that would like to take a shot please do
so.
But unlike the past 3 chiefs don't break your arm patting your own back
about how good you are or how imporatant and busy you are because I am
just
your average joe. Don't waste time telling us all how you are here to
help
the masses. Just unload with your true feeling about what a jerk I am for
asking a simple question and then being disgruntled when I get a "buy
this"
rather then a solution to my problem. But wait there is more... Oh yes
there
is. After the buy this suggestion I am told don't post this way cuz that
bothers me and is impolite. <barf> ..
So knowing that anyone that does have the answer is intelligent enough to
stay away from this post, lets hear it from the rest of you. But please
be
inventive.
"Kerry Brown" wrote:
Why should anyone help someone as rude as you? The answer is in the
Microsoft Knowledge Base. Google is another alternative. I found the
answer
both places in less than five minutes.
We are all busy people. Most of us answer to someone else whether it be a
boss or a client. Some of us take time out of our busy schedules to pass
on
the knowledge we have accumulated over the years. Some of us stamp our
feet
and yell TELL ME NOW!
Kerry
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:18FFC5CC-FC2B-484C-BE9B-0993D5A291B2@microsoft.com...
And yet another insightful response from the gallary. Telling me to
purchase
third party software is hardly trying to help when I expicitly stated
that
I
wanted to use MS Backup. I thought I typed that in plain english but I
suppose some do tend to ignore and spew out what they themselves want
hear.
I am willing to bet the two of you have matching pocket protectors.
As far as learning to use a newgroup, I am completely dumbfounded that
someone is so anal retentivie about a post in 2 differnt groups that
they
use
up their valueable time just to scould another. This truth is I simply
do
not care what you think.. no really, I don't. You use this board as
you
see
fit and I will continue to do the same. If I were to get an email from
MS
suggesting a different way to post then and only then would I change my
practice. I have a recommendation of my own. Why don't cretians such
as
yourself create your own board and wine and bitch back and forth. It
was
the
intelligent community I was soliciting a response from anyway.
"Nospam" wrote:
With a reply like that, SOD you.
Someone try's to help you and you reply like that. I recommend you
learn
how
to use news groups before telling people off.
PLONK.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:683A3A99-5F71-4BDA-BF78-29D93E026868@microsoft.com...
Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels
looking
to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are looking
for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one or
I
think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then I
will
do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C
drive
and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed
are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state
of a
server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state
created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new
(different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our
servers
are
IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is
there
a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from
one
server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive
way
to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all
of
the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our
servers
with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives
could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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Johnny Wright
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:
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No, I think you are missing the point. I am asking how to solve a problem I
am having with MS Backup and Restore. I believe that your solution in the
other group(while it may work very well for you) was to purchase a third
party program. I specifially stated in my post why I want to use MS Backup
to complete this task. I am aware that there are various third party
programs out there that could perform the duties that I require but having
said that MS Backup is free and already available to me. I also realize that
certain people do little more the monitor these discussion looking for an
opportunity to push certain products.... enough said.
I would however like to thank you for the "newgroup etiquette" course that
you provided to me but should point out that I am hardly the only person
posting in multiple groups. The fact that you take the time to explain to me
why I should not be doing this is laughable. Of course there are certain
people out that feel they are so important that they must email everyone else
just to say that they themself don't want useless emails!
Oh well, now that my post is essentially been brought to an end because you
wanted to see your own words on the board I guess I will need to search else
where for my solution. But please, continue to troll this site because
without people like you we might not all become "etiquettely correct" which
of course is far more important then being productive.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
| Quote: | You seem to miss the point.
When you multi-post, you start a separate thread in several newsgroups.
Replies made by one respondent cannot be seen by other respondents.
This leads to duplication of effort.
When you cross-post (by placing several newsgroup names into the
address field, separated by semi-colons) then your post and all the
responses are visible to everyone in each newsgroup. You get your
posting in multiple newsgroups and a quicker answer but there will
be no duplication of effort.
While your wish to solve your problem quickly is understandable,
you need familiarise yourself with newsgroup etiquette. After all
you're asking strangers to help you solve your problem. Seeing
that I gave you a detailed reply in a different newsgroup, it is hardly
productive to call me a troll in this newsgroup. In fact you did not
even bother to acknowledge my post in the other newsgroup even
though it most likely solves your problem.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:683A3A99-5F71-4BDA-BF78-29D93E026868@microsoft.com...
Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels looking
to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are looking for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one or I
think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then I will
do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C drive
and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of a
server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new (different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers are
IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is there
a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from one
server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive way to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our servers
with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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Johnny Wright
Guest
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| Posted:
Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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May the 2+ million Torontonians flame you to he&& and back. Just because you
do not like a single individual is no reason to slam the other 2+ million.
I can only image where you are from.. eh.
Now go back to milking your cows and tending to your home network.
EOP
"Kerry Brown" wrote:
| Quote: | You are giving the rest of us Canadians a bad name. We are known for being
polite. You must be from Toronto.
Kerry
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B0E350D-2564-4FDF-BE70-4BF0DACDBDDA@microsoft.com...
Gottcha. No one should help anyone as rude as me. I should be happy with
the pat answer of " I use this" .. "go buy it and your troubles will be
over". After all it is from very busy people like yourself. I thought I
had
asked a simple, clear, concise question but the only thing I have learned
so
far is that pocket protectors apparently come in packs of 3.
And yes ol wise one, I am sure you found the answer. I guess it is those
weeks of experience that helped you out on that. Now please run along and
play with your friends.
This has been fun. Anyone else that would like to take a shot please do
so.
But unlike the past 3 chiefs don't break your arm patting your own back
about how good you are or how imporatant and busy you are because I am
just
your average joe. Don't waste time telling us all how you are here to
help
the masses. Just unload with your true feeling about what a jerk I am for
asking a simple question and then being disgruntled when I get a "buy
this"
rather then a solution to my problem. But wait there is more... Oh yes
there
is. After the buy this suggestion I am told don't post this way cuz that
bothers me and is impolite. <barf> ..
So knowing that anyone that does have the answer is intelligent enough to
stay away from this post, lets hear it from the rest of you. But please
be
inventive.
"Kerry Brown" wrote:
Why should anyone help someone as rude as you? The answer is in the
Microsoft Knowledge Base. Google is another alternative. I found the
answer
both places in less than five minutes.
We are all busy people. Most of us answer to someone else whether it be a
boss or a client. Some of us take time out of our busy schedules to pass
on
the knowledge we have accumulated over the years. Some of us stamp our
feet
and yell TELL ME NOW!
Kerry
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:18FFC5CC-FC2B-484C-BE9B-0993D5A291B2@microsoft.com...
And yet another insightful response from the gallary. Telling me to
purchase
third party software is hardly trying to help when I expicitly stated
that
I
wanted to use MS Backup. I thought I typed that in plain english but I
suppose some do tend to ignore and spew out what they themselves want
hear.
I am willing to bet the two of you have matching pocket protectors.
As far as learning to use a newgroup, I am completely dumbfounded that
someone is so anal retentivie about a post in 2 differnt groups that
they
use
up their valueable time just to scould another. This truth is I simply
do
not care what you think.. no really, I don't. You use this board as
you
see
fit and I will continue to do the same. If I were to get an email from
MS
suggesting a different way to post then and only then would I change my
practice. I have a recommendation of my own. Why don't cretians such
as
yourself create your own board and wine and bitch back and forth. It
was
the
intelligent community I was soliciting a response from anyway.
"Nospam" wrote:
With a reply like that, SOD you.
Someone try's to help you and you reply like that. I recommend you
learn
how
to use news groups before telling people off.
PLONK.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:683A3A99-5F71-4BDA-BF78-29D93E026868@microsoft.com...
Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels
looking
to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are looking
for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one or
I
think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then I
will
do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C
drive
and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed
are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state
of a
server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state
created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new
(different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our
servers
are
IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is
there
a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from
one
server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive
way
to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all
of
the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our
servers
with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives
could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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Kerry Brown
Guest
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| Posted:
Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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I bet you practice road rage as well. It's too easy to get you going.
PS: In the time we spent flaming each other you could have looked up the
solution to your original question :-)
I'll politely call it quits for now. You can have the last word.
Kerry
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8F3F77DB-A278-4664-9DFF-579C00D432B4@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | May the 2+ million Torontonians flame you to he&& and back. Just because
you
do not like a single individual is no reason to slam the other 2+ million.
I can only image where you are from.. eh.
Now go back to milking your cows and tending to your home network.
EOP
"Kerry Brown" wrote:
You are giving the rest of us Canadians a bad name. We are known for
being
polite. You must be from Toronto.
Kerry
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B0E350D-2564-4FDF-BE70-4BF0DACDBDDA@microsoft.com...
Gottcha. No one should help anyone as rude as me. I should be happy
with
the pat answer of " I use this" .. "go buy it and your troubles will be
over". After all it is from very busy people like yourself. I thought
I
had
asked a simple, clear, concise question but the only thing I have
learned
so
far is that pocket protectors apparently come in packs of 3.
And yes ol wise one, I am sure you found the answer. I guess it is
those
weeks of experience that helped you out on that. Now please run along
and
play with your friends.
This has been fun. Anyone else that would like to take a shot please
do
so.
But unlike the past 3 chiefs don't break your arm patting your own back
about how good you are or how imporatant and busy you are because I am
just
your average joe. Don't waste time telling us all how you are here to
help
the masses. Just unload with your true feeling about what a jerk I am
for
asking a simple question and then being disgruntled when I get a "buy
this"
rather then a solution to my problem. But wait there is more... Oh yes
there
is. After the buy this suggestion I am told don't post this way cuz
that
bothers me and is impolite. <barf> ..
So knowing that anyone that does have the answer is intelligent enough
to
stay away from this post, lets hear it from the rest of you. But
please
be
inventive.
"Kerry Brown" wrote:
Why should anyone help someone as rude as you? The answer is in the
Microsoft Knowledge Base. Google is another alternative. I found the
answer
both places in less than five minutes.
We are all busy people. Most of us answer to someone else whether it
be a
boss or a client. Some of us take time out of our busy schedules to
pass
on
the knowledge we have accumulated over the years. Some of us stamp our
feet
and yell TELL ME NOW!
Kerry
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:18FFC5CC-FC2B-484C-BE9B-0993D5A291B2@microsoft.com...
And yet another insightful response from the gallary. Telling me to
purchase
third party software is hardly trying to help when I expicitly
stated
that
I
wanted to use MS Backup. I thought I typed that in plain english
but I
suppose some do tend to ignore and spew out what they themselves
want
hear.
I am willing to bet the two of you have matching pocket protectors.
As far as learning to use a newgroup, I am completely dumbfounded
that
someone is so anal retentivie about a post in 2 differnt groups that
they
use
up their valueable time just to scould another. This truth is I
simply
do
not care what you think.. no really, I don't. You use this board as
you
see
fit and I will continue to do the same. If I were to get an email
from
MS
suggesting a different way to post then and only then would I change
my
practice. I have a recommendation of my own. Why don't cretians
such
as
yourself create your own board and wine and bitch back and forth.
It
was
the
intelligent community I was soliciting a response from anyway.
"Nospam" wrote:
With a reply like that, SOD you.
Someone try's to help you and you reply like that. I recommend you
learn
how
to use news groups before telling people off.
PLONK.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:683A3A99-5F71-4BDA-BF78-29D93E026868@microsoft.com...
Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels
looking
to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are
looking
for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one
or
I
think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then
I
will
do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers.
Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase
the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in
message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C
drive
and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed
are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system
state
of a
server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system
state
created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new
(different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our
servers
are
IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work.
Is
there
a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State
from
one
server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and
inexpensive
way
to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install
all
of
the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our
servers
with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other
drives
could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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Kerry Brown
Guest
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| Posted:
Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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Why should anyone help someone as rude as you? The answer is in the
Microsoft Knowledge Base. Google is another alternative. I found the answer
both places in less than five minutes.
We are all busy people. Most of us answer to someone else whether it be a
boss or a client. Some of us take time out of our busy schedules to pass on
the knowledge we have accumulated over the years. Some of us stamp our feet
and yell TELL ME NOW!
Kerry
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:18FFC5CC-FC2B-484C-BE9B-0993D5A291B2@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | And yet another insightful response from the gallary. Telling me to
purchase
third party software is hardly trying to help when I expicitly stated that
I
wanted to use MS Backup. I thought I typed that in plain english but I
suppose some do tend to ignore and spew out what they themselves want
hear.
I am willing to bet the two of you have matching pocket protectors.
As far as learning to use a newgroup, I am completely dumbfounded that
someone is so anal retentivie about a post in 2 differnt groups that they
use
up their valueable time just to scould another. This truth is I simply do
not care what you think.. no really, I don't. You use this board as you
see
fit and I will continue to do the same. If I were to get an email from MS
suggesting a different way to post then and only then would I change my
practice. I have a recommendation of my own. Why don't cretians such as
yourself create your own board and wine and bitch back and forth. It was
the
intelligent community I was soliciting a response from anyway.
"Nospam" wrote:
With a reply like that, SOD you.
Someone try's to help you and you reply like that. I recommend you learn
how
to use news groups before telling people off.
PLONK.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:683A3A99-5F71-4BDA-BF78-29D93E026868@microsoft.com...
Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels
looking
to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are looking
for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one or I
think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then I
will
do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C drive
and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of a
server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state
created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new
(different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers
are
IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is
there
a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from one
server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive way
to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of
the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our servers
with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives
could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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Johnny Wright
Guest
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| Posted:
Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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Gottcha. No one should help anyone as rude as me. I should be happy with
the pat answer of " I use this" .. "go buy it and your troubles will be
over". After all it is from very busy people like yourself. I thought I had
asked a simple, clear, concise question but the only thing I have learned so
far is that pocket protectors apparently come in packs of 3.
And yes ol wise one, I am sure you found the answer. I guess it is those
weeks of experience that helped you out on that. Now please run along and
play with your friends.
This has been fun. Anyone else that would like to take a shot please do so.
But unlike the past 3 chiefs don't break your arm patting your own back
about how good you are or how imporatant and busy you are because I am just
your average joe. Don't waste time telling us all how you are here to help
the masses. Just unload with your true feeling about what a jerk I am for
asking a simple question and then being disgruntled when I get a "buy this"
rather then a solution to my problem. But wait there is more... Oh yes there
is. After the buy this suggestion I am told don't post this way cuz that
bothers me and is impolite. <barf> ..
So knowing that anyone that does have the answer is intelligent enough to
stay away from this post, lets hear it from the rest of you. But please be
inventive.
"Kerry Brown" wrote:
| Quote: | Why should anyone help someone as rude as you? The answer is in the
Microsoft Knowledge Base. Google is another alternative. I found the answer
both places in less than five minutes.
We are all busy people. Most of us answer to someone else whether it be a
boss or a client. Some of us take time out of our busy schedules to pass on
the knowledge we have accumulated over the years. Some of us stamp our feet
and yell TELL ME NOW!
Kerry
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:18FFC5CC-FC2B-484C-BE9B-0993D5A291B2@microsoft.com...
And yet another insightful response from the gallary. Telling me to
purchase
third party software is hardly trying to help when I expicitly stated that
I
wanted to use MS Backup. I thought I typed that in plain english but I
suppose some do tend to ignore and spew out what they themselves want
hear.
I am willing to bet the two of you have matching pocket protectors.
As far as learning to use a newgroup, I am completely dumbfounded that
someone is so anal retentivie about a post in 2 differnt groups that they
use
up their valueable time just to scould another. This truth is I simply do
not care what you think.. no really, I don't. You use this board as you
see
fit and I will continue to do the same. If I were to get an email from MS
suggesting a different way to post then and only then would I change my
practice. I have a recommendation of my own. Why don't cretians such as
yourself create your own board and wine and bitch back and forth. It was
the
intelligent community I was soliciting a response from anyway.
"Nospam" wrote:
With a reply like that, SOD you.
Someone try's to help you and you reply like that. I recommend you learn
how
to use news groups before telling people off.
PLONK.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:683A3A99-5F71-4BDA-BF78-29D93E026868@microsoft.com...
Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels
looking
to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are looking
for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one or I
think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then I
will
do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C drive
and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of a
server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state
created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new
(different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers
are
IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is
there
a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from one
server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive way
to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of
the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our servers
with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives
could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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Hank Arnold
Guest
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| Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:50 am Post subject:
Re: NT Backup and Restore |
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With an attitude like that, good luck in getting any support....
--
Regards,
Hank Arnold
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F63025B9-2C2C-457F-B568-3083D1240A67@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | No, I think you are missing the point. I am asking how to solve a problem
I
am having with MS Backup and Restore. I believe that your solution in the
other group(while it may work very well for you) was to purchase a third
party program. I specifially stated in my post why I want to use MS
Backup
to complete this task. I am aware that there are various third party
programs out there that could perform the duties that I require but having
said that MS Backup is free and already available to me. I also realize
that
certain people do little more the monitor these discussion looking for an
opportunity to push certain products.... enough said.
I would however like to thank you for the "newgroup etiquette" course that
you provided to me but should point out that I am hardly the only person
posting in multiple groups. The fact that you take the time to explain to
me
why I should not be doing this is laughable. Of course there are certain
people out that feel they are so important that they must email everyone
else
just to say that they themself don't want useless emails!
Oh well, now that my post is essentially been brought to an end because
you
wanted to see your own words on the board I guess I will need to search
else
where for my solution. But please, continue to troll this site because
without people like you we might not all become "etiquettely correct"
which
of course is far more important then being productive.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
You seem to miss the point.
When you multi-post, you start a separate thread in several newsgroups.
Replies made by one respondent cannot be seen by other respondents.
This leads to duplication of effort.
When you cross-post (by placing several newsgroup names into the
address field, separated by semi-colons) then your post and all the
responses are visible to everyone in each newsgroup. You get your
posting in multiple newsgroups and a quicker answer but there will
be no duplication of effort.
While your wish to solve your problem quickly is understandable,
you need familiarise yourself with newsgroup etiquette. After all
you're asking strangers to help you solve your problem. Seeing
that I gave you a detailed reply in a different newsgroup, it is hardly
productive to call me a troll in this newsgroup. In fact you did not
even bother to acknowledge my post in the other newsgroup even
though it most likely solves your problem.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:683A3A99-5F71-4BDA-BF78-29D93E026868@microsoft.com...
Well gee thanks for the post Gus. I bet you troll these channels
looking
to
input your two cents worth. Some ppl have real jobs and are looking
for
quick answers. If I am not sure which channel is the correct one or I
think
my chances of getting an answer are quicker by posting twice then I
will
do
just that. I answer to my corporation not some lonely troller.
Jack
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
Multi-posted. See Win2000.general for some answers. Multi-posting
wastes everyone's time - please use cross-posting to increase the
exposure of your post.
"Johnny Wright" <JohnnyWright@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:05A92856-65D9-45FE-9FA9-9A129339C1AE@microsoft.com...
I would like to use Windows NT backup to make a copy of the C drive
and
System State of my production servers. The steps I followed are:
1. Create a full back of drive C and include the system state of a
server
2. On a new server (different hardware) install the OS
3. On the new server restore the full backup and system state
created
earlier
My problem is that when I restore the System State to a new
(different
hardware) machine the server will not boot up. All of our servers
are
IBM
Eseries and Xseries so I would have thought this would work. Is
there
a
way
that I can restore a full MS Backup including System State from one
server
to
a completely different one?
As to why I want to do this, it would be a fast and inexpensive way
to
disaster recover a server as I would not need to re-install all of
the
applications - This would save a lot of time on some of our servers
with
apps
that require a lot of configuration. All data from other drives
could
then
be restored from tape backup.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jack
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