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Micael C
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:17 pm    Post subject: Extend disk in Ms Cluster with exchange 2003 Reply with quote

Hi.
I have a big problem just now:
We have a San from IBM FastT900 and i needed to extend one of my storage
groups in the exchange cluster.
First i extended the Lun on the san=Ok
Then i run a Ibm specific command line tools for hootadd the extended disk
area=Ok
After that I run diskpart against volume i wanted to extend=Ok
Atfer that i run diskmanager and that tells me i have succesfully extended
the disk.

But when i browse my comtuer it still list the old diskspace?????
I Have tried to restart the Node but get the same result.
If i stopp the cluster service then the system list the disk space ok but as
soon i
start the cluster service it list the old configuration again.

Is it possible to have the cluster to rescan the disk? I Found a article
that applys to this problem but for Nt4 Cluster.

I run Windows 2003 Enterprise Ed with Exchnage 2003 Enterprise ed on it.

Please can someone help me out with this?

//Micael
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Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: Extend disk in Ms Cluster with exchange 2003 Reply with quote

Here is the only supported way I know of -
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=175278.

I take is you used these steps?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304736/EN-US/

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog

"Micael C" <Micael C@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAD15834-0CCE-4B5D-8DAF-17DF033516CC@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Hi.
I have a big problem just now:
We have a San from IBM FastT900 and i needed to extend one of my storage
groups in the exchange cluster.
First i extended the Lun on the san=Ok
Then i run a Ibm specific command line tools for hootadd the extended disk
area=Ok
After that I run diskpart against volume i wanted to extend=Ok
Atfer that i run diskmanager and that tells me i have succesfully
extended
the disk.

But when i browse my comtuer it still list the old diskspace?????
I Have tried to restart the Node but get the same result.
If i stopp the cluster service then the system list the disk space ok but
as
soon i
start the cluster service it list the old configuration again.

Is it possible to have the cluster to rescan the disk? I Found a article
that applys to this problem but for Nt4 Cluster.

I run Windows 2003 Enterprise Ed with Exchnage 2003 Enterprise ed on it.

Please can someone help me out with this?

//Micael
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Micael C
Guest





Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: Extend disk in Ms Cluster with exchange 2003 Reply with quote

Hi Rodney.
Thanks for answering me:

I read in the newsgroup a answer from "Joe" a similar case and i think I´m
the unlucky 5% he´s talking about. Lokk down here in my answer to you.
Do you know something about the utility to workaround my problem?
He says that microsoft has a utility to fix this problem.
In my case diskmanager looks ok but if i browse my computer the old disksize
is still there, if i stopp cluster service everthinh is ok and when i start
again the old disksize is back. Looks like Microsoft has a non public fix
for this if Joe know what he´s talking about.?

Regards
Micael

Quote:
Joe,
=20
You should not take the quorum disk offline. You should not have the =
MSDTC
online while you're extending this disk...assuming your MSDTC =
resource is
using the quorum disk for storage. If not, then it is irrevelant. =
You really
shouldn't need to extend the quorum drive, but if you do need to =
extend the
disk where the quorum resides, uses MSCS to move the quorum log to a
different disk while you extend the quorum's old drive. The key is =
that you
do not want any open "handles" on the disk while you're extending =
the file
system.
=20
You should only extend one disk at a time, so you shouldn't need to =
take all
resources offline. Only take the resources in that disk's group =
offline and
that should kill most of the handles on the disk. You might consider =
using
the handle.exe tool from www.sysinternals.com as well to verify =
there are no
handles on the disk when you extend.
=20
I have used diskpart and 95% of the time (with W2K SP4 or 2003) it =
works
great. Even if you're one of the unlucky 5%, you will NOT lose data =
by
extending the file system. You may not have access to the extra =
freespace,
but you will not lose data. In the situations where I've seen =
diskpart fail
to extend the filesystem (even though disk manager thinks it did), =
Microsoft
can help you fix the issue as they have a utility to correct this.
=20
Regards,
John
=20
"Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message





"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:

Quote:
Here is the only supported way I know of -
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=175278.

I take is you used these steps?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304736/EN-US/

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog

"Micael C" <Micael C@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAD15834-0CCE-4B5D-8DAF-17DF033516CC@microsoft.com...
Hi.
I have a big problem just now:
We have a San from IBM FastT900 and i needed to extend one of my storage
groups in the exchange cluster.
First i extended the Lun on the san=Ok
Then i run a Ibm specific command line tools for hootadd the extended disk
area=Ok
After that I run diskpart against volume i wanted to extend=Ok
Atfer that i run diskmanager and that tells me i have succesfully
extended
the disk.

But when i browse my comtuer it still list the old diskspace?????
I Have tried to restart the Node but get the same result.
If i stopp the cluster service then the system list the disk space ok but
as
soon i
start the cluster service it list the old configuration again.

Is it possible to have the cluster to rescan the disk? I Found a article
that applys to this problem but for Nt4 Cluster.

I run Windows 2003 Enterprise Ed with Exchnage 2003 Enterprise ed on it.

Please can someone help me out with this?

//Micael


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Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Guest





Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Extend disk in Ms Cluster with exchange 2003 Reply with quote

Micael, sounds like you need to call PSS.

Rod

"Micael C" <micael.cedvik@stralfors.se> wrote in message
news:74A57370-3EED-4C50-B328-66434AB4D7B7@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Hi Rodney.
Thanks for answering me:

I read in the newsgroup a answer from "Joe" a similar case and i think
I´m
the unlucky 5% he´s talking about. Lokk down here in my answer to you.
Do you know something about the utility to workaround my problem?
He says that microsoft has a utility to fix this problem.
In my case diskmanager looks ok but if i browse my computer the old
disksize
is still there, if i stopp cluster service everthinh is ok and when i
start
again the old disksize is back. Looks like Microsoft has a non public fix
for this if Joe know what he´s talking about.?

Regards
Micael

Joe,
=20
You should not take the quorum disk offline. You should not have the =
MSDTC
online while you're extending this disk...assuming your MSDTC =
resource is
using the quorum disk for storage. If not, then it is irrevelant. =
You really
shouldn't need to extend the quorum drive, but if you do need to =
extend the
disk where the quorum resides, uses MSCS to move the quorum log to a
different disk while you extend the quorum's old drive. The key is =
that you
do not want any open "handles" on the disk while you're extending =
the file
system.
=20
You should only extend one disk at a time, so you shouldn't need to =
take all
resources offline. Only take the resources in that disk's group =
offline and
that should kill most of the handles on the disk. You might consider =
using
the handle.exe tool from www.sysinternals.com as well to verify =
there are no
handles on the disk when you extend.
=20
I have used diskpart and 95% of the time (with W2K SP4 or 2003) it =
works
great. Even if you're one of the unlucky 5%, you will NOT lose data =
by
extending the file system. You may not have access to the extra =
freespace,
but you will not lose data. In the situations where I've seen =
diskpart fail
to extend the filesystem (even though disk manager thinks it did), =
Microsoft
can help you fix the issue as they have a utility to correct this.
=20
Regards,
John
=20
"Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message





"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:

Here is the only supported way I know of -
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=175278.

I take is you used these steps?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304736/EN-US/

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog

"Micael C" <Micael C@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAD15834-0CCE-4B5D-8DAF-17DF033516CC@microsoft.com...
Hi.
I have a big problem just now:
We have a San from IBM FastT900 and i needed to extend one of my
storage
groups in the exchange cluster.
First i extended the Lun on the san=Ok
Then i run a Ibm specific command line tools for hootadd the extended
disk
area=Ok
After that I run diskpart against volume i wanted to extend=Ok
Atfer that i run diskmanager and that tells me i have succesfully
extended
the disk.

But when i browse my comtuer it still list the old diskspace?????
I Have tried to restart the Node but get the same result.
If i stopp the cluster service then the system list the disk space ok
but
as
soon i
start the cluster service it list the old configuration again.

Is it possible to have the cluster to rescan the disk? I Found a
article
that applys to this problem but for Nt4 Cluster.

I run Windows 2003 Enterprise Ed with Exchnage 2003 Enterprise ed on
it.

Please can someone help me out with this?

//Micael


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John Toner [MVP]
Guest





Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:25 am    Post subject: Re: Extend disk in Ms Cluster with exchange 2003 Reply with quote

The utility is called fsextend. Not sure if there's a public version
available...so you're better off calling MSFT.

Regards.
John

"Micael C" <micael.cedvik@stralfors.se> wrote in message
news:74A57370-3EED-4C50-B328-66434AB4D7B7@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Hi Rodney.
Thanks for answering me:

I read in the newsgroup a answer from "Joe" a similar case and i think I´m
the unlucky 5% he´s talking about. Lokk down here in my answer to you.
Do you know something about the utility to workaround my problem?
He says that microsoft has a utility to fix this problem.
In my case diskmanager looks ok but if i browse my computer the old
disksize
is still there, if i stopp cluster service everthinh is ok and when i
start
again the old disksize is back. Looks like Microsoft has a non public fix
for this if Joe know what he´s talking about.?

Regards
Micael

Joe,
=20
You should not take the quorum disk offline. You should not have the =
MSDTC
online while you're extending this disk...assuming your MSDTC =
resource is
using the quorum disk for storage. If not, then it is irrevelant. =
You really
shouldn't need to extend the quorum drive, but if you do need to =
extend the
disk where the quorum resides, uses MSCS to move the quorum log to a
different disk while you extend the quorum's old drive. The key is =
that you
do not want any open "handles" on the disk while you're extending =
the file
system.
=20
You should only extend one disk at a time, so you shouldn't need to =
take all
resources offline. Only take the resources in that disk's group =
offline and
that should kill most of the handles on the disk. You might consider =
using
the handle.exe tool from www.sysinternals.com as well to verify =
there are no
handles on the disk when you extend.
=20
I have used diskpart and 95% of the time (with W2K SP4 or 2003) it =
works
great. Even if you're one of the unlucky 5%, you will NOT lose data =
by
extending the file system. You may not have access to the extra =
freespace,
but you will not lose data. In the situations where I've seen =
diskpart fail
to extend the filesystem (even though disk manager thinks it did), =
Microsoft
can help you fix the issue as they have a utility to correct this.
=20
Regards,
John
=20
"Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message





"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:

Here is the only supported way I know of -
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=175278.

I take is you used these steps?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304736/EN-US/

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog

"Micael C" <Micael C@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAD15834-0CCE-4B5D-8DAF-17DF033516CC@microsoft.com...
Hi.
I have a big problem just now:
We have a San from IBM FastT900 and i needed to extend one of my
storage
groups in the exchange cluster.
First i extended the Lun on the san=Ok
Then i run a Ibm specific command line tools for hootadd the extended
disk
area=Ok
After that I run diskpart against volume i wanted to extend=Ok
Atfer that i run diskmanager and that tells me i have succesfully
extended
the disk.

But when i browse my comtuer it still list the old diskspace?????
I Have tried to restart the Node but get the same result.
If i stopp the cluster service then the system list the disk space ok
but
as
soon i
start the cluster service it list the old configuration again.

Is it possible to have the cluster to rescan the disk? I Found a
article
that applys to this problem but for Nt4 Cluster.

I run Windows 2003 Enterprise Ed with Exchnage 2003 Enterprise ed on
it.

Please can someone help me out with this?

//Micael


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