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Justin via WinServerKB.c
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:
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I have a SMB Server 2003 which hosts my website and acts as a mail server. I
put up a wireless router in which the server sits behind. I can get teh web
site to be viewed by the out side world. The problem is the mail server is
having problems. It says that I have no MX record. When I set up the MX
Record I browse for the host record, is this correct? How can I set up the MX
record correctly and also how do I make exchange not an open Relay.
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Thanks for your help,
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Tippy
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:
RE: Mail not getting thru the domain |
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SBS Server should do all this for you. No need to worry about the ms record
in your DNS server. Not sure what is "telling you" you have no mx record.
Maybe a little more detail on where it says this.
What may be the problem is that your domain host may not be pointing the MX
record to your external IP of your router.
Open up a command prompt and type "nslookup -q=mx [yourdomainname.com]". You
might have to do this a few times before it properly works. The lowest value
mx preference is the first direction for mail requests. Make sure the host
name (probably mail.yourdomain.com) is the ip address of your router. Use
ping to test this. If it isn't check the other mx preferences. You will need
to contact your domain host, or use their portal to change the host name to
your IP.
As for open realy, a quick Google search would have answered this for you.
Better get used to researching if you want to be successful in this industry.
Try this http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=895853&SD=tech
Tippy.
"Justin via WinServerKB.com" wrote:
| Quote: | I have a SMB Server 2003 which hosts my website and acts as a mail server. I
put up a wireless router in which the server sits behind. I can get teh web
site to be viewed by the out side world. The problem is the mail server is
having problems. It says that I have no MX record. When I set up the MX
Record I browse for the host record, is this correct? How can I set up the MX
record correctly and also how do I make exchange not an open Relay.
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Thanks for your help,
Justin
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Justin via WinServerKB.c
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:
RE: Mail not getting thru the domain |
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Sorry I Meant to explain what "telling you" When I go to www.dnsstuff.com and
then click on dns reports I get this
Getting MX record for thejmjenkinsfamily.org (from local DNS server, may be
cached)... There is no MX record for thejmjenkinsfamily.org! That's bad.
Checking for an A record... There is no A record for thejmjenkinsfamily.org
either!
That's very bad. No mail can be sent to thejmjenkinsfamily.org.
I will have to make sure that the host name is pointing at the IP of the
router.
Thanks for your help Tippy. I will have to do better at looking when I do a
Google search.
Tippy wrote:
| Quote: | SBS Server should do all this for you. No need to worry about the ms record
in your DNS server. Not sure what is "telling you" you have no mx record.
Maybe a little more detail on where it says this.
What may be the problem is that your domain host may not be pointing the MX
record to your external IP of your router.
Open up a command prompt and type "nslookup -q=mx [yourdomainname.com]". You
might have to do this a few times before it properly works. The lowest value
mx preference is the first direction for mail requests. Make sure the host
name (probably mail.yourdomain.com) is the ip address of your router. Use
ping to test this. If it isn't check the other mx preferences. You will need
to contact your domain host, or use their portal to change the host name to
your IP.
As for open realy, a quick Google search would have answered this for you.
Better get used to researching if you want to be successful in this industry.
Try this http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=895853&SD=tech
Tippy.
I have a SMB Server 2003 which hosts my website and acts as a mail server. I
put up a wireless router in which the server sits behind. I can get teh web
site to be viewed by the out side world. The problem is the mail server is
having problems. It says that I have no MX record. When I set up the MX
Record I browse for the host record, is this correct? How can I set up the MX
record correctly and also how do I make exchange not an open Relay.
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Tippy
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:
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OK, you just need to log onto your registrars portal, which in your case is
www.godaddy.com
Log in with your login and password. I have never seen godaddys interface
before so I cant tell you step-by-step. But what you need to do is create 2
host names. Just call then mail and mail2 for example. Both these should
point to your external IP address of your server.
Next you create an MX record. Most registars require 2 host names so thats
where the mail and mail1 come in. Put those 2 hosts as your primary and
secondary. That should be it. It might take between 1 and 24 hours before the
change takes effect. After that you should be able to use the nslookup
command I posted before, or dnsstuff to confirm its working.
If you still have trouble you might need to contact your registrar and have
them do it for you.
If you dont know your external IP address, go to www.whatismyip.com. Also
you need to create port forwarding rules in your router. Ports 25, 110 (if
you'll use POP) and 80 (if your hosting www) should point to the private IP
of your server.
Let me know what the result is, for me and people who read this post looking
for a conclusion.
Tippy.
"Justin via WinServerKB.com" wrote:
| Quote: | Sorry I Meant to explain what "telling you" When I go to www.dnsstuff.com and
then click on dns reports I get this
Getting MX record for thejmjenkinsfamily.org (from local DNS server, may be
cached)... There is no MX record for thejmjenkinsfamily.org! That's bad.
Checking for an A record... There is no A record for thejmjenkinsfamily.org
either!
That's very bad. No mail can be sent to thejmjenkinsfamily.org.
I will have to make sure that the host name is pointing at the IP of the
router.
Thanks for your help Tippy. I will have to do better at looking when I do a
Google search.
Tippy wrote:
SBS Server should do all this for you. No need to worry about the ms record
in your DNS server. Not sure what is "telling you" you have no mx record.
Maybe a little more detail on where it says this.
What may be the problem is that your domain host may not be pointing the MX
record to your external IP of your router.
Open up a command prompt and type "nslookup -q=mx [yourdomainname.com]". You
might have to do this a few times before it properly works. The lowest value
mx preference is the first direction for mail requests. Make sure the host
name (probably mail.yourdomain.com) is the ip address of your router. Use
ping to test this. If it isn't check the other mx preferences. You will need
to contact your domain host, or use their portal to change the host name to
your IP.
As for open realy, a quick Google search would have answered this for you.
Better get used to researching if you want to be successful in this industry.
Try this http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=895853&SD=tech
Tippy.
I have a SMB Server 2003 which hosts my website and acts as a mail server. I
put up a wireless router in which the server sits behind. I can get teh web
site to be viewed by the out side world. The problem is the mail server is
having problems. It says that I have no MX record. When I set up the MX
Record I browse for the host record, is this correct? How can I set up the MX
record correctly and also how do I make exchange not an open Relay.
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Thanks for your help,
Justin
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Tippy
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:50 am Post subject:
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Very nicely done Ace. Obviously you've done some work to get all those
acronyms after your name :-)
I wonder why Justin would have to host his own DNS servers? I would have
expected that his registrar would use their DNS servers to host the A and MX
records for his domain. I may be mistaken and maybe the domain has to be
hosted for it to have DNS servers to be authoratitive for his domain.
Also, I happen to notice your an MCT. *bows head* Would you mind taking a
look at my post here
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/dgbrowser/en-us/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.server.dns&mid=28ceaf91-57e8-4acb-9df8-a568708d8f3d
I can understand what the idea is and am sure I can get past the exam
without knowing it properly, but it's tearing me up inside!
Cheers.
Tippy.
"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:
| Quote: | In news:56c8d6e358cbc@uwe,
Justin via WinServerKB.com <u15424@uwe> made this post, which I then
commented about below:
Sorry I Meant to explain what "telling you" When I go to
www.dnsstuff.com and then click on dns reports I get this
Getting MX record for thejmjenkinsfamily.org (from local DNS server,
may be cached)... There is no MX record for thejmjenkinsfamily.org!
That's bad. Checking for an A record... There is no A record for
thejmjenkinsfamily.org either!
That's very bad. No mail can be sent to thejmjenkinsfamily.org.
I will have to make sure that the host name is pointing at the IP of
the router.
Thanks for your help Tippy. I will have to do better at looking when
I do a Google search.
Justin,
When I tested the thejmjenkinsfamily.org zone for your MX record, there is
none. I am assuming YOU are hosting your "thejmjenkinsfamily.org zone" on
the Internet and assume that these two servers are the SOAs:
worf.thejmjenkinsfamily.org internet address = 207.173.211.134
bridge.thejmjenkinsfamily.org internet address = 207.173.211.133
So I thought to try querying them directly, the .134 one timed out on the
query. The .133 didn't time out, but what is disturbing is you are MIXING
private and public data on that server. You CANNOT mix this stuff. Look what
I got when I queried for mail.thejmjenkinsfamily.org:
Addresses: 207.173.211.133, 192.168.15.254
If my mail server were to send you mail and it resolved (provided the MX
record was working), to 192.168.15.254, you will NEVER receive the mail.
Make sense?
If you need internal private IP resolution, then you MUST have separate DNS
servers for this purpose and leave the other two to ONLY host public records
if you want to make this work.
I then tried to query .133 for the MX record, but it appears you did not
create an MX record. TO create an MX record, rt-click your zonename, select
New, Mail Exchanger, leave the top box blank, in the target host box, type
in mail.thejmjenkinsfamily.org.
As for reverse records, since the ISP owns the IP block, and as Tippy
mentioned, you need to contact them about creating a reverse record for your
mail server's MX record.
I hope this all makes sense.
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Ace
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If this post is viewed at a non-Microsoft community website, and you were to
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unless that website posts replies back to the original Microsoft forum.
Therefore, please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroup
this thread originated in so all can benefit or ensure the web community
posts it back to the original forum.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer
Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations.
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:50 am Post subject:
Re: Mail not getting thru the domain |
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In news:56c8d6e358cbc@uwe,
Justin via WinServerKB.com <u15424@uwe> made this post, which I then
commented about below:
| Quote: | Sorry I Meant to explain what "telling you" When I go to
www.dnsstuff.com and then click on dns reports I get this
Getting MX record for thejmjenkinsfamily.org (from local DNS server,
may be cached)... There is no MX record for thejmjenkinsfamily.org!
That's bad. Checking for an A record... There is no A record for
thejmjenkinsfamily.org either!
That's very bad. No mail can be sent to thejmjenkinsfamily.org.
I will have to make sure that the host name is pointing at the IP of
the router.
Thanks for your help Tippy. I will have to do better at looking when
I do a Google search.
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Justin,
When I tested the thejmjenkinsfamily.org zone for your MX record, there is
none. I am assuming YOU are hosting your "thejmjenkinsfamily.org zone" on
the Internet and assume that these two servers are the SOAs:
worf.thejmjenkinsfamily.org internet address = 207.173.211.134
bridge.thejmjenkinsfamily.org internet address = 207.173.211.133
So I thought to try querying them directly, the .134 one timed out on the
query. The .133 didn't time out, but what is disturbing is you are MIXING
private and public data on that server. You CANNOT mix this stuff. Look what
I got when I queried for mail.thejmjenkinsfamily.org:
Addresses: 207.173.211.133, 192.168.15.254
If my mail server were to send you mail and it resolved (provided the MX
record was working), to 192.168.15.254, you will NEVER receive the mail.
Make sense?
If you need internal private IP resolution, then you MUST have separate DNS
servers for this purpose and leave the other two to ONLY host public records
if you want to make this work.
I then tried to query .133 for the MX record, but it appears you did not
create an MX record. TO create an MX record, rt-click your zonename, select
New, Mail Exchanger, leave the top box blank, in the target host box, type
in mail.thejmjenkinsfamily.org.
As for reverse records, since the ISP owns the IP block, and as Tippy
mentioned, you need to contact them about creating a reverse record for your
mail server's MX record.
I hope this all makes sense.
--
Ace
This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.
If this post is viewed at a non-Microsoft community website, and you were to
respond to it through that community's website, I may not see your reply
unless that website posts replies back to the original Microsoft forum.
Therefore, please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroup
this thread originated in so all can benefit or ensure the web community
posts it back to the original forum.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer
Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations.
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:28 am Post subject:
Re: Mail not getting thru the domain |
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In news:49BBF34A-BE04-4A4F-B8AC-B9A05763EE50@microsoft.com,
Tippy <Tippy@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I then
commented about below:
Thanks, Tippy, just trying to help folks out. As for Justin, I agree it's
easier to just let the ISP or Registrar host a domain name on the Internet.
It's really not worth the effort, especially when you need multiple DNS
servers as in his case, two to host the external domain, and one to host
internal records.
As for your issue, read up on these two articles, specifically the
DNSUpdateProxy Group. I replied to your original post too with the same
exact info. Reply back in that thread in case anyone else contributes or
comments on it.
317590 - HOW TO Configure DNS Dynamic Update in Windows 2000 and
DNSUpdateProxy Group:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=317590
How to configure DNS dynamic updates in Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816592/
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