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Scott
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Cross Subnet Browsing Problem |
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I have 2 subnets connected via T1. I have one wins server at location 1
acting as wins server for both subnets. 2003 Interim domain level. From both
subnets, only computers located at location 1 display under my network
places. Not sure when the problem started but i used to be able to view all
computers from both locations when physically connected to either location.
Only change that has been made in the last month is that I moved my Wins
server from a NT4 server to a Win 2003 server. All IP configs are correct at
both locations. I can ping all pcs by name. There are domain controllers
located on each subnet. Did something change with Wins on a 2003 server to
where i need to configure a Wins server on each subnet in a push/pull
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Scott
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Subnet Browsing Problem |
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I have one domain that covers both subnets.
Subnet 1
Windows 2003 DC - PDC emulator (can only see pcs in subnet 1)
Windows 2003 DC - BDC - WINS Server (can only see pcs in subnet 1)
DHCP clients - pointing to Wins server in Subnet 1- Can only see pcs in
subnet 1
Subnet 2
Windows 2003 DC - BDC (can only see pcs in subnet 2) -Using Wins server in
subnet 1
Windows NT 4 DC - BDC (Can only see pcs in subnet 2) - Using Wins server in
Subnet 1
DHCP Clients - pointing to Wins server in subnet 1 - Can only see pcs in
subnet 1
I can map drives all day, i can ping all pc's by name, i can do a run
\\computename\xxx and the correct thing opens ...
"Scott" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have 2 subnets connected via T1. I have one wins server at location 1
acting as wins server for both subnets. 2003 Interim domain level. From
both
subnets, only computers located at location 1 display under my network
places. Not sure when the problem started but i used to be able to view
all
computers from both locations when physically connected to either
location.
Only change that has been made in the last month is that I moved my Wins
server from a NT4 server to a Win 2003 server. All IP configs are correct
at
both locations. I can ping all pcs by name. There are domain controllers
located on each subnet. Did something change with Wins on a 2003 server to
where i need to configure a Wins server on each subnet in a push/pull
config?
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Michael Giorgio - MS MVP
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Subnet Browsing Problem |
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You have 1 domain or 2? If one do you have a DC
in each location? If two can you successfully map to
a share from the PDC emulator on 1 subnet to the PDC
emulator in subnet 2? If two, Open the WINS database
and sort by name. Do you see a domain name 1b for
each domain? PDC emulators / DMBs (domain master
browsers will periodically check WINS for domain name
1b unique names in order to find other domains to add to
their local list.
"Scott" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:
| Quote: | I have 2 subnets connected via T1. I have one wins server at location 1
acting as wins server for both subnets. 2003 Interim domain level. From
both
subnets, only computers located at location 1 display under my network
places. Not sure when the problem started but i used to be able to view
all
computers from both locations when physically connected to either
location.
Only change that has been made in the last month is that I moved my Wins
server from a NT4 server to a Win 2003 server. All IP configs are correct
at
both locations. I can ping all pcs by name. There are domain controllers
located on each subnet. Did something change with Wins on a 2003 server to
where i need to configure a Wins server on each subnet in a push/pull
config?
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Michael Giorgio - MS MVP
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Subnet Browsing Problem |
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The PDC emulator is supposed to contact an SMB or
subnet master browser in the remote subnet in order to
get it's local list and add the the domain wide list then pass
back to the SMB when a client requests the list. The is the
DMB as well as the SMB for it's local subnet by default.
Your problem suggests the NT 4.0 BDC cannot open a
NetBIOS session with the PDC emulator / DMB. Check
connectivity specifically between the NT 4.0 BDC and the
DMB. Also, its possible a W2k or higher machine is trying
to become the SMB in subnet 2 which sould cause clients to
register with the W2k or higher machine instead of the BDC.
Open a dos prompt on the BDC and type net view. What
do you see?
"Scott" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:
| Quote: | I have one domain that covers both subnets.
Subnet 1
Windows 2003 DC - PDC emulator (can only see pcs in subnet 1)
Windows 2003 DC - BDC - WINS Server (can only see pcs in subnet 1)
DHCP clients - pointing to Wins server in Subnet 1- Can only see pcs in
subnet 1
Subnet 2
Windows 2003 DC - BDC (can only see pcs in subnet 2) -Using Wins server in
subnet 1
Windows NT 4 DC - BDC (Can only see pcs in subnet 2) - Using Wins server
in
Subnet 1
DHCP Clients - pointing to Wins server in subnet 1 - Can only see pcs in
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Scott
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Subnet Browsing Problem |
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I typed net view on both BDC's on subnet 2 (2003 and NT 4) ...Both return
the full list of PC's/servers on subnet 2...
I cant figure out why this worked before and it doesnt now...When I moved
Wins from NT 4 to 2003 server, i left both running for a short period of
time, changing all the static and DHCP wins settings to 2003 Wins as primary
and NT 4 as secondary. A week or so ago, i stopped the wins service on the
NT 4 server and removed the secondary Wins ip addresses accordingly. Could
it be the fact the subnet 2 servers have not been rebooted since i made this
chnage to one Wins server? The Wins server located in subnet 1 has entries
for both subnets....
"Scott" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:OFN3aev2FHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | I have 2 subnets connected via T1. I have one wins server at location 1
acting as wins server for both subnets. 2003 Interim domain level. From
both
subnets, only computers located at location 1 display under my network
places. Not sure when the problem started but i used to be able to view
all
computers from both locations when physically connected to either
location.
Only change that has been made in the last month is that I moved my Wins
server from a NT4 server to a Win 2003 server. All IP configs are correct
at
both locations. I can ping all pcs by name. There are domain controllers
located on each subnet. Did something change with Wins on a 2003 server to
where i need to configure a Wins server on each subnet in a push/pull
config?
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Michael Giorgio - MS MVP
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Subnet Browsing Problem |
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This may be the culprit. Upon teboot they will register their names
with the new WINS database. AS a side not "static" entries are not
recommended.
"Scott" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:
| Quote: | I typed net view on both BDC's on subnet 2 (2003 and NT 4) ...Both return
the full list of PC's/servers on subnet 2...
I cant figure out why this worked before and it doesnt now...When I moved
Wins from NT 4 to 2003 server, i left both running for a short period of
time, changing all the static and DHCP wins settings to 2003 Wins as
primary
and NT 4 as secondary. A week or so ago, i stopped the wins service on the
NT 4 server and removed the secondary Wins ip addresses accordingly. Could
it be the fact the subnet 2 servers have not been rebooted since i made
this
chnage to one Wins server? The Wins server located in subnet 1 has entries
for both subnets....
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Scott
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Subnet Browsing Problem |
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One followup....one server i do not see listed in Wins is the NT 4 BDC in
subnet 2....
"Scott" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have 2 subnets connected via T1. I have one wins server at location 1
acting as wins server for both subnets. 2003 Interim domain level. From
both
subnets, only computers located at location 1 display under my network
places. Not sure when the problem started but i used to be able to view
all
computers from both locations when physically connected to either
location.
Only change that has been made in the last month is that I moved my Wins
server from a NT4 server to a Win 2003 server. All IP configs are correct
at
both locations. I can ping all pcs by name. There are domain controllers
located on each subnet. Did something change with Wins on a 2003 server to
where i need to configure a Wins server on each subnet in a push/pull
config?
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Scott
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Subnet Browsing Problem |
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I should have checked the event log on the subnet 2 NT 4 server to begin
with...hasnt been able to contact a domain controller for a couple
weeks...rebooted and all is well now..Thanks for your help.
"Scott" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:OFN3aev2FHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | I have 2 subnets connected via T1. I have one wins server at location 1
acting as wins server for both subnets. 2003 Interim domain level. From
both
subnets, only computers located at location 1 display under my network
places. Not sure when the problem started but i used to be able to view
all
computers from both locations when physically connected to either
location.
Only change that has been made in the last month is that I moved my Wins
server from a NT4 server to a Win 2003 server. All IP configs are correct
at
both locations. I can ping all pcs by name. There are domain controllers
located on each subnet. Did something change with Wins on a 2003 server to
where i need to configure a Wins server on each subnet in a push/pull
config?
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Michael Giorgio - MS MVP
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Subnet Browsing Problem |
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Ahhh I had a feeling there was a connectivity issue. What
was the event id and description? This issue may re-appear.
<g>
"Scott" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:ueWC:
| Quote: | I should have checked the event log on the subnet 2 NT 4 server to begin
with...hasnt been able to contact a domain controller for a couple
weeks...rebooted and all is well now..Thanks for your help.
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Scott
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Subnet Browsing Problem |
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A Netlogon 5719 error...It started the same day I changed the Wins entry on
that server. The NT 4 server told me I had to reboot for settings to take
effect, but I figured since i only removed a secondary wins address, the
server would use it's current ip config until the next reboot. I was just
waiting for an opportunity to reboot the server and just forgot about it...
"Scott" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:OFN3aev2FHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | I have 2 subnets connected via T1. I have one wins server at location 1
acting as wins server for both subnets. 2003 Interim domain level. From
both
subnets, only computers located at location 1 display under my network
places. Not sure when the problem started but i used to be able to view
all
computers from both locations when physically connected to either
location.
Only change that has been made in the last month is that I moved my Wins
server from a NT4 server to a Win 2003 server. All IP configs are correct
at
both locations. I can ping all pcs by name. There are domain controllers
located on each subnet. Did something change with Wins on a 2003 server to
where i need to configure a Wins server on each subnet in a push/pull
config?
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Michael Giorgio - MS MVP
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Subnet Browsing Problem |
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Glad to hear. Have fun and thanks for the update.
"Scott" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:
| Quote: | A Netlogon 5719 error...It started the same day I changed the Wins entry on
that server. The NT 4 server told me I had to reboot for settings to take
effect, but I figured since i only removed a secondary wins address, the
server would use it's current ip config until the next reboot. I was just
waiting for an opportunity to reboot the server and just forgot about
it...
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