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JJ
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: NLB dead machines Reply with quote

Hi

I use NLB to load balance my 2 web servers, but it doesnt cope with services
that are down, eg IIS. It only fails the node automatically if the whole
server goes off line. Is there anything I can do to help me here?


Also, I have noticed that if I connect to the NLB IP from a member of the
NLB group it always goes to that same member even if it's stopped in NLB.

Jon
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Russ Kaufmann [MVP]
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: NLB dead machines Reply with quote

"JJ" <gggg@cg22.cc> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi

I use NLB to load balance my 2 web servers, but it doesnt cope with
services that are down, eg IIS. It only fails the node automatically if
the whole server goes off line. Is there anything I can do to help me
here?

Sorry, but that is just one of the limitations of NLB.

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Russ Kaufmann

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Website
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Brian Desmond [MVP]
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: NLB dead machines Reply with quote

As far as the service awareness, you'll need to mvoe to a hardware solution
like a Cisco CSM/CSS that can do something like an http ping for aliveness
checks.

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Thanks,
Brian Desmond
Windows Server MVP

www.briandesmond.com


"JJ" <gggg@cg22.cc> wrote in message
news:uu6B21k1FHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Hi

I use NLB to load balance my 2 web servers, but it doesnt cope with
services that are down, eg IIS. It only fails the node automatically if
the whole server goes off line. Is there anything I can do to help me
here?


Also, I have noticed that if I connect to the NLB IP from a member of the
NLB group it always goes to that same member even if it's stopped in NLB.

Jon
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JJ
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: NLB dead machines Reply with quote

Thanks

Is it possible to initiate a stop or start command to NLB via a command
prompt?


"Brian Desmond [MVP]" <brian@briandesmond.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
As far as the service awareness, you'll need to mvoe to a hardware
solution like a Cisco CSM/CSS that can do something like an http ping for
aliveness checks.

--
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
Windows Server MVP

www.briandesmond.com


"JJ" <gggg@cg22.cc> wrote in message
news:uu6B21k1FHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Hi

I use NLB to load balance my 2 web servers, but it doesnt cope with
services that are down, eg IIS. It only fails the node automatically if
the whole server goes off line. Is there anything I can do to help me
here?


Also, I have noticed that if I connect to the NLB IP from a member of the
NLB group it always goes to that same member even if it's stopped in NLB.

Jon


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Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: NLB dead machines Reply with quote

Yes! wlbs is the command, drainstop is the best way.

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training


"JJ" <gggg@cg22.cc> wrote in message
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Quote:
Thanks

Is it possible to initiate a stop or start command to NLB via a command
prompt?


"Brian Desmond [MVP]" <brian@briandesmond.com> wrote in message
news:%23qTPcjq1FHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
As far as the service awareness, you'll need to mvoe to a hardware
solution like a Cisco CSM/CSS that can do something like an http ping for
aliveness checks.

--
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
Windows Server MVP

www.briandesmond.com


"JJ" <gggg@cg22.cc> wrote in message
news:uu6B21k1FHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Hi

I use NLB to load balance my 2 web servers, but it doesnt cope with
services that are down, eg IIS. It only fails the node automatically if
the whole server goes off line. Is there anything I can do to help me
here?


Also, I have noticed that if I connect to the NLB IP from a member of
the NLB group it always goes to that same member even if it's stopped in
NLB.

Jon




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JJ
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: NLB dead machines Reply with quote

So I could use my server monitoring software to issue a wlbs command to
properly fail a server?!?!
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" <rod@die.spam.die.nw-america.com> wrote in
message news:%2308oQ8J2FHA.664@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Yes! wlbs is the command, drainstop is the best way.

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training


"JJ" <gggg@cg22.cc> wrote in message
news:OXM%23lbJ2FHA.2616@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Thanks

Is it possible to initiate a stop or start command to NLB via a command
prompt?


"Brian Desmond [MVP]" <brian@briandesmond.com> wrote in message
news:%23qTPcjq1FHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
As far as the service awareness, you'll need to mvoe to a hardware
solution like a Cisco CSM/CSS that can do something like an http ping
for aliveness checks.

--
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
Windows Server MVP

www.briandesmond.com


"JJ" <gggg@cg22.cc> wrote in message
news:uu6B21k1FHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Hi

I use NLB to load balance my 2 web servers, but it doesnt cope with
services that are down, eg IIS. It only fails the node automatically
if the whole server goes off line. Is there anything I can do to help
me here?


Also, I have noticed that if I connect to the NLB IP from a member of
the NLB group it always goes to that same member even if it's stopped
in NLB.

Jon






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Brian Desmond [MVP]
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: NLB dead machines Reply with quote

Yes, you could. Drainstop is the polite way to remove a server, it waits
until all active connections are dropped before removing the server. If you
have a failed box, you'd rather just stop it immediately.

--
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
Windows Server MVP

www.briandesmond.com


"JJ" <gggg@cg22.cc> wrote in message
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Quote:
So I could use my server monitoring software to issue a wlbs command to
properly fail a server?!?!
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" <rod@die.spam.die.nw-america.com> wrote in
message news:%2308oQ8J2FHA.664@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Yes! wlbs is the command, drainstop is the best way.

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training


"JJ" <gggg@cg22.cc> wrote in message
news:OXM%23lbJ2FHA.2616@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Thanks

Is it possible to initiate a stop or start command to NLB via a command
prompt?


"Brian Desmond [MVP]" <brian@briandesmond.com> wrote in message
news:%23qTPcjq1FHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
As far as the service awareness, you'll need to mvoe to a hardware
solution like a Cisco CSM/CSS that can do something like an http ping
for aliveness checks.

--
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
Windows Server MVP

www.briandesmond.com


"JJ" <gggg@cg22.cc> wrote in message
news:uu6B21k1FHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Hi

I use NLB to load balance my 2 web servers, but it doesnt cope with
services that are down, eg IIS. It only fails the node automatically
if the whole server goes off line. Is there anything I can do to help
me here?


Also, I have noticed that if I connect to the NLB IP from a member of
the NLB group it always goes to that same member even if it's stopped
in NLB.

Jon








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