Cannot disable WINS-R on DNS reverse zones
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Imp
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Cannot disable WINS-R on DNS reverse zones Reply with quote

Hi



I'm having problems disabling WINS-R on some reverse zones on a Windows
Server 2003 server. The zones are Active Directory integrated and is
configured to allow secure dynamic update. Scavenging is also configured,
the zones are configured to replicate to all domain controllers in domain,
it's multiple domain controllers in different AD sites.




I disable WINS-R for the zone, I see it disappears from the zone data, then
suddenly after like 30 seconds its right back and enabled again. Anyone seen
this before?




If I don't find an explanation, I'll probably change the zone to a
non-integrated zone, wait for it to be removed from all domain controllers,
and then make it Active Directory integrated again.



Thanks!





/Ragnar
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Cannot disable WINS-R on DNS reverse zones Reply with quote

In news:eN7uK%23a1FHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Imp <none@all.com> made this post, which I then commented about below:
Quote:
Hi

I'm having problems disabling WINS-R on some reverse zones on a
Windows Server 2003 server. The zones are Active Directory integrated
and is configured to allow secure dynamic update. Scavenging is also
configured, the zones are configured to replicate to all domain
controllers in domain, it's multiple domain controllers in different
AD sites.
I disable WINS-R for the zone, I see it disappears from the zone
data, then suddenly after like 30 seconds its right back and enabled
again. Anyone seen this before?

If I don't find an explanation, I'll probably change the zone to a
non-integrated zone, wait for it to be removed from all domain
controllers, and then make it Active Directory integrated again.

Thanks!

/Ragnar

You can do that if you like, but my first question is are you talking about
the WINS-R record in the zone or are you talking about if you go into the
Reverse zone properties, you are saying you can't disable (uncheck) WINS-R?

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Ace

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Therefore, please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroup
this thread originated in so all can benefit or ensure the web community
posts it back to the original forum.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Windows Server - Directory Services
Microsot Certified Trainer
Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations.
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Imp
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Cannot disable WINS-R on DNS reverse zones Reply with quote

I'm able to uncheck the option for WINS-R on the reverse sone, and I see
that the record for WINS-R in the zone data is removed after doing this.
However, after 30-60 seconds, the record is back and the option for WINS-R
is enabled again. I guess it could be a replication issue, but I have never
seen this before.

/Ragnar
(MCSE+I NT40, MCSE 2000, MCSE 2003)



"Ace Fekay [MVP]"
<PleaseSubstituteMyActualFirstName&LastNameHere@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:%236fyXwx1FHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Quote:
In news:eN7uK%23a1FHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Imp <none@all.com> made this post, which I then commented about below:
Hi

I'm having problems disabling WINS-R on some reverse zones on a
Windows Server 2003 server. The zones are Active Directory integrated
and is configured to allow secure dynamic update. Scavenging is also
configured, the zones are configured to replicate to all domain
controllers in domain, it's multiple domain controllers in different
AD sites.
I disable WINS-R for the zone, I see it disappears from the zone
data, then suddenly after like 30 seconds its right back and enabled
again. Anyone seen this before?

If I don't find an explanation, I'll probably change the zone to a
non-integrated zone, wait for it to be removed from all domain
controllers, and then make it Active Directory integrated again.

Thanks!

/Ragnar

You can do that if you like, but my first question is are you talking
about the WINS-R record in the zone or are you talking about if you go
into the Reverse zone properties, you are saying you can't disable
(uncheck) WINS-R?

--
Ace

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

If this post is viewed at a non-Microsoft community website, and you were
to respond to it through that community's website, I may not see your
reply unless that website posts replies back to the original Microsoft
forum. Therefore, please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public
newsgroup this thread originated in so all can benefit or ensure the web
community posts it back to the original forum.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Windows Server - Directory Services
Microsot Certified Trainer
Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations.
=================================



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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: Cannot disable WINS-R on DNS reverse zones Reply with quote

In news:ed50S9z1FHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Imp <none@all.com> made this post, which I then commented about below:
Quote:
I'm able to uncheck the option for WINS-R on the reverse sone, and I
see that the record for WINS-R in the zone data is removed after
doing this. However, after 30-60 seconds, the record is back and the
option for WINS-R is enabled again. I guess it could be a replication
issue, but I have never seen this before.

/Ragnar
(MCSE+I NT40, MCSE 2000, MCSE 2003)

Is the zone AD Integrated? Replication is probably putting it back.

Any errors in the Event viewer on any of your DCs?

Ace
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Imp
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Cannot disable WINS-R on DNS reverse zones Reply with quote

Yes, in my first post I wrote that the zones are AD-integrated and that
there are multiple domain controllers in different AD sites. No replication
errors visible in the Directory Service log, no errors visible in the DNS
log. Also all other records are replicated without any problems.

I have fixed the problem now. I had to select (property for zone - WINS-R)
"Do not replicate this record", then select Apply, then deselect "Use WINS-R
lookup". Previously I just deselected "Use WINS-R lookup" since the record
was replicated, but for some reason (maybe a bug who knows) this did not
work for more than 30 seconds...

Thanks anyway.

/Ragnar



"Ace Fekay [MVP]"
<PleaseSubstituteMyActualFirstName&LastNameHere@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:%23Xd7ehE2FHA.1564@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Quote:
In news:ed50S9z1FHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Imp <none@all.com> made this post, which I then commented about below:
I'm able to uncheck the option for WINS-R on the reverse sone, and I
see that the record for WINS-R in the zone data is removed after
doing this. However, after 30-60 seconds, the record is back and the
option for WINS-R is enabled again. I guess it could be a replication
issue, but I have never seen this before.

/Ragnar
(MCSE+I NT40, MCSE 2000, MCSE 2003)

Is the zone AD Integrated? Replication is probably putting it back.

Any errors in the Event viewer on any of your DCs?

Ace
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
Guest





Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Cannot disable WINS-R on DNS reverse zones Reply with quote

In news:OX$TY%23I2FHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Imp <none@all.com> made this post, which I then commented about below:
Quote:
Yes, in my first post I wrote that the zones are AD-integrated and
that there are multiple domain controllers in different AD sites. No
replication errors visible in the Directory Service log, no errors
visible in the DNS log. Also all other records are replicated without
any problems.
I have fixed the problem now. I had to select (property for zone -
WINS-R) "Do not replicate this record", then select Apply, then
deselect "Use WINS-R lookup". Previously I just deselected "Use
WINS-R lookup" since the record was replicated, but for some reason
(maybe a bug who knows) this did not work for more than 30 seconds...

Thanks anyway.

/Ragnar

I apologize for not re-reading the posts in the thread, which I usually do.

Since AD is 2003, replication between DCs in a Site happens within 15
seconds, which esplains what you are seeing within 30 seconds. The "Do not
replicate this record" checkbox is to insure you do replicate the WINS
setting to all DC/DNS servers in the replication scope. Glad you were able
to figure it out.

Ace
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Imp
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Cannot disable WINS-R on DNS reverse zones Reply with quote

No problem, I'm just happy someone took the time to answer my post.

However, your statement regarding the "Do not replicate this record" option
is somewhat incorrect. This option is not to "insure you do replicate the
WINS setting to all DC/DNS servers in the replication scope". This option is
to give you the flexibility to choose whether or not the WINS-R lookup
record should be replicated with the zone data or not. It is to prevent
replication of WINS-R record to DNS secondary servers that may not support
this record or function, and it also makes it possible to configure the
different DNS servers with different WINS-R behavior.

Thanks.


/Ragnar



"Ace Fekay [MVP]"
<PleaseSubstituteMyActualFirstName&LastNameHere@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:%23irgxbJ2FHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Quote:
In news:OX$TY%23I2FHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Imp <none@all.com> made this post, which I then commented about below:
Yes, in my first post I wrote that the zones are AD-integrated and
that there are multiple domain controllers in different AD sites. No
replication errors visible in the Directory Service log, no errors
visible in the DNS log. Also all other records are replicated without
any problems.
I have fixed the problem now. I had to select (property for zone -
WINS-R) "Do not replicate this record", then select Apply, then
deselect "Use WINS-R lookup". Previously I just deselected "Use
WINS-R lookup" since the record was replicated, but for some reason
(maybe a bug who knows) this did not work for more than 30 seconds...

Thanks anyway.

/Ragnar

I apologize for not re-reading the posts in the thread, which I usually
do.

Since AD is 2003, replication between DCs in a Site happens within 15
seconds, which esplains what you are seeing within 30 seconds. The "Do not
replicate this record" checkbox is to insure you do replicate the WINS
setting to all DC/DNS servers in the replication scope. Glad you were able
to figure it out.

Ace
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
Guest





Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: Cannot disable WINS-R on DNS reverse zones Reply with quote

In news:uROOz%23M2FHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Imp <none@all.no> made this post, which I then commented about below:
Quote:
No problem, I'm just happy someone took the time to answer my post.

However, your statement regarding the "Do not replicate this record"
option is somewhat incorrect. This option is not to "insure you do
replicate the WINS setting to all DC/DNS servers in the replication
scope". This option is to give you the flexibility to choose whether
or not the WINS-R lookup record should be replicated with the zone
data or not. It is to prevent replication of WINS-R record to DNS
secondary servers that may not support this record or function, and
it also makes it possible to configure the different DNS servers with
different WINS-R behavior.
Thanks.

Thanks for the correction! :-)

Cheers!

Ace
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