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Johnny Rio
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no luck |
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I have a simple network....2 servers (1 DC and 1 file server). I've created
my DC and thought I had everything setup right but when I try to connect my
file server to the DC I get a timeout error that only took about 5 seconds.
I've read several articles including Q237675, Q324259, and Q324753 but still
no luck. Maybe my forward and reverse lookup zones aren't setup correctly.
When I type nslookup on my DC I do get the message that the default server is
not set. When I type Server SERVER3, I get the info of my domain and IP
address. How do I get this info to "stick".
My domain is agency.city.local
My IP is 192.168.24.3 (SERVER3)
My only entry in my File servers primary DNS settings is 192.168.24.3. What
am I missing?
Thanks,
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:39 am Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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In news:0BDAA99A-016A-4593-8D78-4C85548686F1@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
| Quote: | I have a simple network....2 servers (1 DC and 1 file server). I've
created my DC and thought I had everything setup right but when I try
to connect my file server to the DC I get a timeout error that only
took about 5 seconds. I've read several articles including Q237675,
Q324259, and Q324753 but still no luck. Maybe my forward and reverse
lookup zones aren't setup correctly. When I type nslookup on my DC I
do get the message that the default server is not set. When I type
Server SERVER3, I get the info of my domain and IP address. How do I
get this info to "stick".
My domain is agency.city.local
My IP is 192.168.24.3 (SERVER3)
My only entry in my File servers primary DNS settings is
192.168.24.3. What am I missing?
Thanks,
Johnny
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Is server3 one of the DCs or just the file server you were talking about? Is
it running DNS? I am assuming so because it's pointing to itself for DNS. So
you are saying the server3 host (or "A") record doesn't exist in the zone?
Are updates allowed in the zone's properties?
You said you have two DCs. Is it happening for the other DC's record as
well?
As for the nslookup message (not an error), it's just saying that it can't
find the name of your DNS server in your reverse zone. Is there a PTR entry
for 192.168.24.3? How did you configure the zone? 192.168.24.x? Does this
zone allow updates?
If allowing updates and updates are not happening, is the DHCP Client
service on your DCs disabled?
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Johnny Rio
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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I only have 1 DC. The other server is the file server that I'm trying to
make a member of the domain. Both are W2003 Servers. I did run netdiag
after installing some support tools from my Window 2003 Server CD. When I
run nslookup, now my server is listed as Server3 whereas before I it was
listed as unknown. Each time I ran nslookup I could manually type Server:
Server3 and it was good until I closed the cmd prompt. That part seems to be
okay.
In DNS Mgmt I have:
Server 3
Forward Lookup Zones
_msdcs.agency.city.local
agency.city.local
(same as parent) SOA: [20], server3.agency.city.local
(same as parent) NS: server3.agency.city.local
(same as parent) Host (A) 192.168.24.3
Server3 Host (A) 192.168.24.3
Reverse lookup zones
192.168.24.x subnet
(same as parent) SOA: [4], server3.agency.city.local
(same as parent) NS: server3.agency.city.local
192.168.24.3 PTR server3.agency.city.local
For TCP/IP properties on my file server list the primary DNS address as
192.168.24.3
Both of these servers are behind a NAT router and no other firewalls are
enabled unless there is something else in W2003 that I don't know about.
Thanks for your time,
Johnny
"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:
| Quote: | In news:0BDAA99A-016A-4593-8D78-4C85548686F1@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
I have a simple network....2 servers (1 DC and 1 file server). I've
created my DC and thought I had everything setup right but when I try
to connect my file server to the DC I get a timeout error that only
took about 5 seconds. I've read several articles including Q237675,
Q324259, and Q324753 but still no luck. Maybe my forward and reverse
lookup zones aren't setup correctly. When I type nslookup on my DC I
do get the message that the default server is not set. When I type
Server SERVER3, I get the info of my domain and IP address. How do I
get this info to "stick".
My domain is agency.city.local
My IP is 192.168.24.3 (SERVER3)
My only entry in my File servers primary DNS settings is
192.168.24.3. What am I missing?
Thanks,
Johnny
Is server3 one of the DCs or just the file server you were talking about? Is
it running DNS? I am assuming so because it's pointing to itself for DNS. So
you are saying the server3 host (or "A") record doesn't exist in the zone?
Are updates allowed in the zone's properties?
You said you have two DCs. Is it happening for the other DC's record as
well?
As for the nslookup message (not an error), it's just saying that it can't
find the name of your DNS server in your reverse zone. Is there a PTR entry
for 192.168.24.3? How did you configure the zone? 192.168.24.x? Does this
zone allow updates?
If allowing updates and updates are not happening, is the DHCP Client
service on your DCs disabled?
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Ace
This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.
If this post is viewed at a non-Microsoft community website, and you were to
respond to it through that community's website, I may not see your reply
unless that website posts replies back to the original Microsoft forum.
Therefore, please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroup
this thread originated in so all can benefit or ensure the web community
posts it back to the original forum.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Windows Server - Directory Services
Microsot Certified Trainer
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:55 am Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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In news:496A38E9-497C-4A08-9E08-FB40A2CFC1F3@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
| Quote: | I only have 1 DC. The other server is the file server that I'm
trying to make a member of the domain. Both are W2003 Servers. I
did run netdiag after installing some support tools from my Window
2003 Server CD. When I run nslookup, now my server is listed as
Server3 whereas before I it was listed as unknown. Each time I ran
nslookup I could manually type Server: Server3 and it was good until
I closed the cmd prompt. That part seems to be okay.
In DNS Mgmt I have:
Server 3
Forward Lookup Zones
_msdcs.agency.city.local
agency.city.local
(same as parent) SOA: [20], server3.agency.city.local
(same as parent) NS: server3.agency.city.local
(same as parent) Host (A) 192.168.24.3
Server3 Host (A) 192.168.24.3
Reverse lookup zones
192.168.24.x subnet
(same as parent) SOA: [4], server3.agency.city.local
(same as parent) NS: server3.agency.city.local
192.168.24.3 PTR server3.agency.city.local
For TCP/IP properties on my file server list the primary DNS address
as 192.168.24.3
Both of these servers are behind a NAT router and no other firewalls
are enabled unless there is something else in W2003 that I don't know
about.
Thanks for your time,
Johnny
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Hi Johnny,
So server3 is your DC and the file server is pointing to it for DNS, and the
zone has all the SRV records. Good so far. Under _msdcs zone, you will see a
"gc" folder. When you click on it, do you see 192.168.24.3 in the right hand
window pane?
When you attempt to join this fileserver to the domain, what exact message
are you getting?
Do you get the box to provide credentials to allow joining it, or is it
simply timing out in 5 seconds as previously mentioned?
How are you entering the domain name when attempting to join?
Is it by the FQDN, "agency.city.local"
or just by the NetBIOS domain name: "agency"?
Re-reading your post, I don't see where you responded about the DHCP Client
service. Reason why I asked, is because it's a required service for the DNS
resolver and the DNS Dynamic update registration process, whether the
machine is static or DHCP. It works with the DNS client service.
Good the firewall is disabled. Are any other services or process disabled
such as NetBIOS, MS File & Print, or MS Client service?
Was zone alarm on the DC at any time in the past? Any security software,
such as Norton Internet Security, or McAfee? BlackIce?
Sorry for all the questions, Johnny, but I am trying to narrow it down and
appreciate if you can respond to them specifically, or if you can think of
anything that may have happened recently, that is if you do not have any
other problems with joining any other machine to the domain.
Just to eliminate whether the problem is with the fileserver or not, do you
have a spare desktop lying that is not being used that you can use to join
it to the domain? Whether it will join or not will tell us if the problem is
with the fileserver or with a security, or some other setting in AD.
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Johnny Rio
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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Thanks, Ace, for the help so far.....The questions you ask are good ones.
Correct, server3 is my DC server and server2 is my file server which is
pointing to Server3 for DNS. Right now server2 is not a member of a domain
but I would like it to join agency.city.local. As far as I know, my zones
are correct.
I do see 192.168.24.3 under _msdcs zone in the gc folder.
I have tried to enter the FQDN (agency.city.local) and NETBIOS (agency) name
when attempting to join and still get the timeout message as summarized
below...
"....the operation returned b/c the timeout period expired. The query was
for the SRV record for _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.agency.city.local. The DNS
server used by this PC for name resolution are not responding. This PC is
configured to use DNS servers with the following address 192.168.24.3..."
I had to authorize DHCP and I think I have configured it correctly. In DHCP
I do see server3.agency.city.local [192.168.24.3] but scope shows
[192.168.0.0] scope1 **active**. Scope and Server options show 006 DNS
Servers as standard with IP 192.168.24.3. Under Properties/DNS tab, I've
chosen to Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records.
(I had entered static IP address for all my servers and workstations so I
didn't think I needed DHCP. I was hopeful that would fix it. I did try a
stand-alone PC and received the exact timeout error as mentioned above).
The NetBios, file & print, and MS client services are all enabled. Both of
these servers are brand new OS installs. As far as I know the zone alarm was
never on unless it's part of the default settings when I promoted this server
to a DC. No security software installed. I'm just not sure what other
default security settings for W2003 Server could effect my networking efforts.
Thanks for the help. I don't mind the questions.
Johnny
"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:
| Quote: | In news:496A38E9-497C-4A08-9E08-FB40A2CFC1F3@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
I only have 1 DC. The other server is the file server that I'm
trying to make a member of the domain. Both are W2003 Servers. I
did run netdiag after installing some support tools from my Window
2003 Server CD. When I run nslookup, now my server is listed as
Server3 whereas before I it was listed as unknown. Each time I ran
nslookup I could manually type Server: Server3 and it was good until
I closed the cmd prompt. That part seems to be okay.
In DNS Mgmt I have:
Server 3
Forward Lookup Zones
_msdcs.agency.city.local
agency.city.local
(same as parent) SOA: [20], server3.agency.city.local
(same as parent) NS: server3.agency.city.local
(same as parent) Host (A) 192.168.24.3
Server3 Host (A) 192.168.24.3
Reverse lookup zones
192.168.24.x subnet
(same as parent) SOA: [4], server3.agency.city.local
(same as parent) NS: server3.agency.city.local
192.168.24.3 PTR server3.agency.city.local
For TCP/IP properties on my file server list the primary DNS address
as 192.168.24.3
Both of these servers are behind a NAT router and no other firewalls
are enabled unless there is something else in W2003 that I don't know
about.
Thanks for your time,
Johnny
Hi Johnny,
So server3 is your DC and the file server is pointing to it for DNS, and the
zone has all the SRV records. Good so far. Under _msdcs zone, you will see a
"gc" folder. When you click on it, do you see 192.168.24.3 in the right hand
window pane?
When you attempt to join this fileserver to the domain, what exact message
are you getting?
Do you get the box to provide credentials to allow joining it, or is it
simply timing out in 5 seconds as previously mentioned?
How are you entering the domain name when attempting to join?
Is it by the FQDN, "agency.city.local"
or just by the NetBIOS domain name: "agency"?
Re-reading your post, I don't see where you responded about the DHCP Client
service. Reason why I asked, is because it's a required service for the DNS
resolver and the DNS Dynamic update registration process, whether the
machine is static or DHCP. It works with the DNS client service.
Good the firewall is disabled. Are any other services or process disabled
such as NetBIOS, MS File & Print, or MS Client service?
Was zone alarm on the DC at any time in the past? Any security software,
such as Norton Internet Security, or McAfee? BlackIce?
Sorry for all the questions, Johnny, but I am trying to narrow it down and
appreciate if you can respond to them specifically, or if you can think of
anything that may have happened recently, that is if you do not have any
other problems with joining any other machine to the domain.
Just to eliminate whether the problem is with the fileserver or not, do you
have a spare desktop lying that is not being used that you can use to join
it to the domain? Whether it will join or not will tell us if the problem is
with the fileserver or with a security, or some other setting in AD.
Ace
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Johnny Rio
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:50 am Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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Correct, no clients can join the domain. So I've got something screwy going
....
The results of netdiag appear okay as indicated below:
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Gathering IPX configuration information.
Querying status of the Netcard drivers... Passed
Testing Domain membership... Passed
Gathering NetBT configuration information.
Testing DNS
PASS - All the DNS entries for DC are registered on DNS server
'192.168.24.3'.
Tests complete.
Computer Name: SERVER3
DNS Host Name: SERVER3.agency.city.local
DNS Domain Name: agency.city.local
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 3790)
Processor : x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1, GenuineIntel
Hotfixes :
Installed? Name
Yes KB890046
Yes KB893756
Yes KB896358
Yes KB896422
Yes KB896428
Yes KB896727
Yes KB898715
Yes KB898792
Yes KB899587
Yes KB899588
Yes KB899591
Yes KB901214
Yes Q147222
Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed
Information of Netcard drivers:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Description: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
Device: \DEVICE\{1CE3E17A-7DD3-4678-8F9B-7EA9CA49136B}
Media State: Connected
Device State: Connected
Connect Time: 02:51:54
Media Speed: 100 Mbps
Packets Sent: 489
Bytes Sent (Optional): 0
Packets Received: 14755
Directed Pkts Recd (Optional): 482
Bytes Received (Optional): 0
Directed Bytes Recd (Optional): 0
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
[PASS] - At least one netcard is in the 'Connected' state.
Per interface results:
Adapter : Local Area Connection
Adapter ID . . . . . . . . : {1CE3E17A-7DD3-4678-8F9B-7EA9CA49136B}
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Global results:
Domain membership test . . . . . . : Passed
Machine is a . . . . . . . . . : Primary Domain Controller Emulator
Netbios Domain name. . . . . . : AGENCY
Dns domain name. . . . . . . . : agency.city.local
Dns forest name. . . . . . . . : agency.city.local
Domain Guid. . . . . . . . . . : {AFDF685F-F0A8-4E97-A0D5-62757E2C323F}
Domain Sid . . . . . . . . . . : S-1-5-21-2184146301-2621240423-1501514961
Logon User . . . . . . . . . . : AGENCY_ADMIN
Logon Domain . . . . . . . . . : AGENCY
NetBT transports test. . . . . . . : Passed
List of NetBt transports currently configured:
NetBT_Tcpip_{1CE3E17A-7DD3-4678-8F9B-7EA9CA49136B}
1 NetBt transport currently configured.
DNS test . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed
Interface {1CE3E17A-7DD3-4678-8F9B-7EA9CA49136B}
DNS Domain:
DNS Servers: 192.168.24.3
IP Address: Expected registration with PDN (primary DNS
domain name):
Hostname: SERVER3.agency.city.local.
Authoritative zone: agency.city.local.
Primary DNS server: SERVER3.agency.city.local 192.168.24.3
Authoritative NS:192.168.24.3
Check the DNS registration for DCs entries on DNS server '192.168.24.3'
The Record is correct on DNS server '192.168.24.3'.
PASS - All the DNS entries for DC are registered on DNS server '192.168.24.3'.
The command completed successfully
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DNS logs shows DNS has started. The info in _kerberos and _ldap show
[priority] [weight] [port] server3.agency.city.local.
One thing I have been looking into since Ace mentioned DHCP needs to be
enabled is that when I do ipconfig /all it shows that DHCP Enabled = No for
Local Area Connection but when I look at my services running it shows that
DHCP Client and Server are STARTED (auto). I do have the records when I go
to DHCP MGMT Console it shows the records I typed in my last post. I'm
wondering if there is something going on with my network adapters b/c my
network connection had for some reason created Local Area Connection and
Local Area Connection 2. I couldn't simply delete the Connection 2. I had
to delete the adapter #2. Are 2 adapters needed for the DC to function
properly. I'm having the same problem whether I have both adapters installed
or not.
Thanks,
Johnny
"SIME U via WinServerKB.com" wrote:
| Quote: | Hi
I guess from Ace qns it can be assumed a problem with the dc as no client can
join the domain?
Does the srv record queried for in the error you posted exist in the _msdcs
zone? ie if you open the zone, then open "dc" then _tcp do you see any
records ie an _ldap one and a _kerberos one? if so do they have the right
info in them
Have you tried netdiag and dcdiag and what errors are reported? also
anything in event logs and the dns log?
Regards
S
Johnny Rio wrote:
Thanks, Ace, for the help so far.....The questions you ask are good ones.
Correct, server3 is my DC server and server2 is my file server which is
pointing to Server3 for DNS. Right now server2 is not a member of a domain
but I would like it to join agency.city.local. As far as I know, my zones
are correct.
I do see 192.168.24.3 under _msdcs zone in the gc folder.
I have tried to enter the FQDN (agency.city.local) and NETBIOS (agency) name
when attempting to join and still get the timeout message as summarized
below...
"....the operation returned b/c the timeout period expired. The query was
for the SRV record for _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.agency.city.local. The DNS
server used by this PC for name resolution are not responding. This PC is
configured to use DNS servers with the following address 192.168.24.3..."
I had to authorize DHCP and I think I have configured it correctly. In DHCP
I do see server3.agency.city.local [192.168.24.3] but scope shows
[192.168.0.0] scope1 **active**. Scope and Server options show 006 DNS
Servers as standard with IP 192.168.24.3. Under Properties/DNS tab, I've
chosen to Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records.
(I had entered static IP address for all my servers and workstations so I
didn't think I needed DHCP. I was hopeful that would fix it. I did try a
stand-alone PC and received the exact timeout error as mentioned above).
The NetBios, file & print, and MS client services are all enabled. Both of
these servers are brand new OS installs. As far as I know the zone alarm was
never on unless it's part of the default settings when I promoted this server
to a DC. No security software installed. I'm just not sure what other
default security settings for W2003 Server could effect my networking efforts.
Thanks for the help. I don't mind the questions.
Johnny
In news:496A38E9-497C-4A08-9E08-FB40A2CFC1F3@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
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Ace
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:50 am Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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Hi
I guess from Ace qns it can be assumed a problem with the dc as no client can
join the domain?
Does the srv record queried for in the error you posted exist in the _msdcs
zone? ie if you open the zone, then open "dc" then _tcp do you see any
records ie an _ldap one and a _kerberos one? if so do they have the right
info in them
Have you tried netdiag and dcdiag and what errors are reported? also
anything in event logs and the dns log?
Regards
S
Johnny Rio wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks, Ace, for the help so far.....The questions you ask are good ones.
Correct, server3 is my DC server and server2 is my file server which is
pointing to Server3 for DNS. Right now server2 is not a member of a domain
but I would like it to join agency.city.local. As far as I know, my zones
are correct.
I do see 192.168.24.3 under _msdcs zone in the gc folder.
I have tried to enter the FQDN (agency.city.local) and NETBIOS (agency) name
when attempting to join and still get the timeout message as summarized
below...
"....the operation returned b/c the timeout period expired. The query was
for the SRV record for _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.agency.city.local. The DNS
server used by this PC for name resolution are not responding. This PC is
configured to use DNS servers with the following address 192.168.24.3..."
I had to authorize DHCP and I think I have configured it correctly. In DHCP
I do see server3.agency.city.local [192.168.24.3] but scope shows
[192.168.0.0] scope1 **active**. Scope and Server options show 006 DNS
Servers as standard with IP 192.168.24.3. Under Properties/DNS tab, I've
chosen to Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records.
(I had entered static IP address for all my servers and workstations so I
didn't think I needed DHCP. I was hopeful that would fix it. I did try a
stand-alone PC and received the exact timeout error as mentioned above).
The NetBios, file & print, and MS client services are all enabled. Both of
these servers are brand new OS installs. As far as I know the zone alarm was
never on unless it's part of the default settings when I promoted this server
to a DC. No security software installed. I'm just not sure what other
default security settings for W2003 Server could effect my networking efforts.
Thanks for the help. I don't mind the questions.
Johnny
In news:496A38E9-497C-4A08-9E08-FB40A2CFC1F3@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
[quoted text clipped - 72 lines]
Ace
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:51 am Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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In news:BE46F069-3975-48A7-8776-8FAB774C484B@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
| Quote: | Correct, no clients can join the domain. So I've got something
screwy going ...
The results of netdiag appear okay as indicated below:
..................................................
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| Quote: | One thing I have been looking into since Ace mentioned DHCP needs to
be enabled is that when I do ipconfig /all it shows that DHCP Enabled
= No for Local Area Connection but when I look at my services running
it shows that DHCP Client and Server are STARTED (auto). I do have
the records when I go to DHCP MGMT Console it shows the records I
typed in my last post. I'm wondering if there is something going on
with my network adapters b/c my network connection had for some
reason created Local Area Connection and Local Area Connection 2. I
couldn't simply delete the Connection 2. I had to delete the adapter
#2. Are 2 adapters needed for the DC to function properly. I'm
having the same problem whether I have both adapters installed or not.
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Johnny, PLEASE do not confuse the DHCP Server Service with the DHCP Client
Service. The DHCP Client Service is what I was talking about, not the DHCP
Server service that a DHCP server requires. The DHCP CLIENT SERVICE is
required for DNS registration and DNS hostname resolution.
One adapter is required. If you are saying that your DC had two NICS and
they were both active? When the two NICs were up, did you look in DNS to see
if there happened to be multiple records for Server3 one of them with an IP
other than IP 192.168.24.3?
Was something changed, installed or updated recently? (This includes
hotfixes or security updates through Windows update.)
Is there a personal firewall installed on server3?
Can we see an ipconfig /all please?
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject:
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Yep, I am confusing those. Is it okay for the DHCP Server service to run
even though I'm not planning on using DHCP to distribute IPs? I enter static
IPs on all my PCs/Servers.
I've actually got one NIC but it has 2 adapters. Both of them were enabled.
I made both adapters identical with IP, subnet, and DNS info. Of course
then I received a warning about them having the same info so I just disabled
one of them for the time being.
I did install SP1 for W2003 Server (Standard) with latest updates for this
OS. I do see a new Security Configuration Wizard that was installed with SP1
that I haven't explored.
No firewall installed. I haven't enabled the OS firewall either. The only
other time I tried to set up a DNS server I did have BlackICE causing
problems. Once I disabled BlackICE, I was able to connect to the domain.
I'm not using one now, though.
Here's the results of ipconfig /all....
Host Name: Server3
Primary DNS Suffix: agency.city.local
Node type: hybrid
IP Routing Enabled: Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled: No
DNS Suffix Search List: agency.city.local, city.local
Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection (this is the adapter I have enabled)
Description: (adapter desc)
Physical Address: (adapter address)
DHCP Enabled: No
IP Address: 192.168.24.3
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.24.1
DNS Servers: 192.168.24.3
Primary WINS Server: 192.168.24.3
Thanks for the help!!!!!!!!!!!! I look forward to your posts and want to
resolve this issue badly.
Thanks,
Johnny
"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:
| Quote: | In news:BE46F069-3975-48A7-8776-8FAB774C484B@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
Correct, no clients can join the domain. So I've got something
screwy going ...
The results of netdiag appear okay as indicated below:
..................................................
snip
One thing I have been looking into since Ace mentioned DHCP needs to
be enabled is that when I do ipconfig /all it shows that DHCP Enabled
= No for Local Area Connection but when I look at my services running
it shows that DHCP Client and Server are STARTED (auto). I do have
the records when I go to DHCP MGMT Console it shows the records I
typed in my last post. I'm wondering if there is something going on
with my network adapters b/c my network connection had for some
reason created Local Area Connection and Local Area Connection 2. I
couldn't simply delete the Connection 2. I had to delete the adapter
#2. Are 2 adapters needed for the DC to function properly. I'm
having the same problem whether I have both adapters installed or not.
Johnny, PLEASE do not confuse the DHCP Server Service with the DHCP Client
Service. The DHCP Client Service is what I was talking about, not the DHCP
Server service that a DHCP server requires. The DHCP CLIENT SERVICE is
required for DNS registration and DNS hostname resolution.
One adapter is required. If you are saying that your DC had two NICS and
they were both active? When the two NICs were up, did you look in DNS to see
if there happened to be multiple records for Server3 one of them with an IP
other than IP 192.168.24.3?
Was something changed, installed or updated recently? (This includes
hotfixes or security updates through Windows update.)
Is there a personal firewall installed on server3?
Can we see an ipconfig /all please?
Ace
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Johnny Rio
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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Yes, I have tried dcdiag but the screen flashes so fast I can't see what
happens. Where is the log file for dcdiag. Event logs look okay. I'm just
as puzzled as you so I'm wondering what I did wrong. The adapter issue seems
to be okay b/c I deleted the other adapter and am now just working with the
one.
"SIME U via WinServerKB.com" wrote:
| Quote: | Hi
Did you try dcdiag too? just out of curiousity...
Failing that any eventlogs? on the surface everything looks OK tho, did you
check like Ace said to see if there are any incorrect resource records in the
zone from when the other adaptor was enabled?
I think this one is really one for the big 3!!!! Ace,Herb,Kevin sorry could
be more help. What caused this issue in the first place?
S
Johnny Rio wrote:
Yep, I am confusing those. Is it okay for the DHCP Server service to run
even though I'm not planning on using DHCP to distribute IPs? I enter static
IPs on all my PCs/Servers.
I've actually got one NIC but it has 2 adapters. Both of them were enabled.
I made both adapters identical with IP, subnet, and DNS info. Of course
then I received a warning about them having the same info so I just disabled
one of them for the time being.
I did install SP1 for W2003 Server (Standard) with latest updates for this
OS. I do see a new Security Configuration Wizard that was installed with SP1
that I haven't explored.
No firewall installed. I haven't enabled the OS firewall either. The only
other time I tried to set up a DNS server I did have BlackICE causing
problems. Once I disabled BlackICE, I was able to connect to the domain.
I'm not using one now, though.
Here's the results of ipconfig /all....
Host Name: Server3
Primary DNS Suffix: agency.city.local
Node type: hybrid
IP Routing Enabled: Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled: No
DNS Suffix Search List: agency.city.local, city.local
Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection (this is the adapter I have enabled)
Description: (adapter desc)
Physical Address: (adapter address)
DHCP Enabled: No
IP Address: 192.168.24.3
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.24.1
DNS Servers: 192.168.24.3
Primary WINS Server: 192.168.24.3
Thanks for the help!!!!!!!!!!!! I look forward to your posts and want to
resolve this issue badly.
Thanks,
Johnny
In news:BE46F069-3975-48A7-8776-8FAB774C484B@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
Ace
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SIME U via WinServerKB.co
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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Hi
Did you try dcdiag too? just out of curiousity...
Failing that any eventlogs? on the surface everything looks OK tho, did you
check like Ace said to see if there are any incorrect resource records in the
zone from when the other adaptor was enabled?
I think this one is really one for the big 3!!!! Ace,Herb,Kevin sorry could
be more help. What caused this issue in the first place?
S
Johnny Rio wrote:
| Quote: | Yep, I am confusing those. Is it okay for the DHCP Server service to run
even though I'm not planning on using DHCP to distribute IPs? I enter static
IPs on all my PCs/Servers.
I've actually got one NIC but it has 2 adapters. Both of them were enabled.
I made both adapters identical with IP, subnet, and DNS info. Of course
then I received a warning about them having the same info so I just disabled
one of them for the time being.
I did install SP1 for W2003 Server (Standard) with latest updates for this
OS. I do see a new Security Configuration Wizard that was installed with SP1
that I haven't explored.
No firewall installed. I haven't enabled the OS firewall either. The only
other time I tried to set up a DNS server I did have BlackICE causing
problems. Once I disabled BlackICE, I was able to connect to the domain.
I'm not using one now, though.
Here's the results of ipconfig /all....
Host Name: Server3
Primary DNS Suffix: agency.city.local
Node type: hybrid
IP Routing Enabled: Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled: No
DNS Suffix Search List: agency.city.local, city.local
Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection (this is the adapter I have enabled)
Description: (adapter desc)
Physical Address: (adapter address)
DHCP Enabled: No
IP Address: 192.168.24.3
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.24.1
DNS Servers: 192.168.24.3
Primary WINS Server: 192.168.24.3
Thanks for the help!!!!!!!!!!!! I look forward to your posts and want to
resolve this issue badly.
Thanks,
Johnny
In news:BE46F069-3975-48A7-8776-8FAB774C484B@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
Ace
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:51 am Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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In news:2EF6DC3D-6AE1-468A-88C8-B173D925BC25@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
| Quote: | Yes, I have tried dcdiag but the screen flashes so fast I can't see
what happens. Where is the log file for dcdiag. Event logs look
okay. I'm just as puzzled as you so I'm wondering what I did wrong.
The adapter issue seems to be okay b/c I deleted the other adapter
and am now just working with the one.
"SIME U via WinServerKB.com" wrote:
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First,
If you're not running a DHCP server, there's no reason to run the DHCP
Service.
Second, if you just installed the latest hotfix last week, read this, it
maybe a cause of all your probs:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909444
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Johnny Rio
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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It appears I have a network connectivity problem simply b/c I can ping other
servers in the same subnet and receive a reply. I am pinging from Server2
(my file server that I want to join the domain). I cannot ping Server3 (my
only DC/DNS) server. My pinging times out. All of them are W2003 Servers
with SP1 and all have the latest updates, but Server3 is the only server that
will not respond. So, what do you think could be causing this problem? When
the server is promoted to a DC and AD installed, is there something that is
blocked?
Thanks,
Johnny
"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:
| Quote: | In news:2EF6DC3D-6AE1-468A-88C8-B173D925BC25@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
Yes, I have tried dcdiag but the screen flashes so fast I can't see
what happens. Where is the log file for dcdiag. Event logs look
okay. I'm just as puzzled as you so I'm wondering what I did wrong.
The adapter issue seems to be okay b/c I deleted the other adapter
and am now just working with the one.
"SIME U via WinServerKB.com" wrote:
First,
If you're not running a DHCP server, there's no reason to run the DHCP
Service.
Second, if you just installed the latest hotfix last week, read this, it
maybe a cause of all your probs:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909444
Ace
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:51 am Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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In news:178B0D17-C115-49FA-BF20-1DF4325385BA@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
| Quote: | It appears I have a network connectivity problem simply b/c I can
ping other servers in the same subnet and receive a reply. I am
pinging from Server2 (my file server that I want to join the domain).
I cannot ping Server3 (my only DC/DNS) server. My pinging times out.
All of them are W2003 Servers with SP1 and all have the latest
updates, but Server3 is the only server that will not respond. So,
what do you think could be causing this problem? When the server is
promoted to a DC and AD installed, is there something that is blocked?
Thanks,
Johnny
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Johnny, did that article help? Did it apply to your system?
If there are no IPSec policies in place, whether the new machine is part of
the domain or not, it should still respond with a simple ping.
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Johnny Rio
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Trying to connect W2k3 file server with W2k3 DC with no |
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Ace, you are gonna want to kill me, but RRAS (Routing and Remote Access
Service) was installed and running on my server. Once I posted my ping
problem in the Networking newsgroup, Seth asked me about RRAS. I had no clue
what it was so a little search of the help topics lead me on the path. This
server is brand new with W2003 Server installed from the factory. The OS on
my other servers was installed by me. When you asked me about firewalls and
I said I had none, I did not know that RRAS has some form of a basic firewall
as part of its components. Once I stopped the service, I was able to ping
the server successfully, AND JOIN MY DOMAIN. I appreciate all your replies
since this exercise alone has taught me alot!!!
Thanks again, ACE!
Johnny
"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:
| Quote: | In news:178B0D17-C115-49FA-BF20-1DF4325385BA@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <JohnnyRio@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
It appears I have a network connectivity problem simply b/c I can
ping other servers in the same subnet and receive a reply. I am
pinging from Server2 (my file server that I want to join the domain).
I cannot ping Server3 (my only DC/DNS) server. My pinging times out.
All of them are W2003 Servers with SP1 and all have the latest
updates, but Server3 is the only server that will not respond. So,
what do you think could be causing this problem? When the server is
promoted to a DC and AD installed, is there something that is blocked?
Thanks,
Johnny
Johnny, did that article help? Did it apply to your system?
If there are no IPSec policies in place, whether the new machine is part of
the domain or not, it should still respond with a simple ping.
Ace
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