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eric romero
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003 Reply with quote
Hi all,

Please do you know if after using MSDSS 1-way synch the netweare
users/groups are going to stay in netware are going to be "moved" to AD?

For the same netware to Ad migration I plan to use File migration utility;
do you kneo if whe ndoing the netware file migration doe sthe netware files
got "moved' or they still stay in netware volumes?

thx
-Eric
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Vincent Xu [MSFT]
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:51 am    Post subject: RE: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003 Reply with quote
Hi Eric,

One-way Synchronization

This is a synchronization process that pushes changes made in Active
Directory to NDS or a NetWare 3.x bindery, but does not read changes made
in NDS. Active Directory-to-Novell synchronization flow is called forward
synchronization. Forward synchronization is incremental and granular at the
attribute level (it reads changed objects from Active Directory and writes
only the modified attributes to NDS). Forward synchronization from Active
Directory to NDS requires no schema change on NDS. One-way synchronization
should be used when a customer wants to centralize directory administration
in Active Directory or prepare to migrate from NDS or NetWare binderies to
Active Directory.

More information please refer to following site:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/sfn/msdss.asp>

Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security


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From: "eric romero" <e.romero@cgnet.com
Subject: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003
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Hi all,

Please do you know if after using MSDSS 1-way synch the netweare
users/groups are going to stay in netware are going to be "moved" to AD?

For the same netware to Ad migration I plan to use File migration utility;
do you kneo if whe ndoing the netware file migration doe sthe netware
files
got "moved' or they still stay in netware volumes?

thx
-Eric


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eric romero
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003 Reply with quote
Yes thanks for the reply, before the 1-way synch an inverse (NDS to AD)
synch will occur.

I just wonder to know what is really happening in that initial and unique
NDS to AD synch, is its that the netware users are gone from netware?
is it that a persons can use both usernames 1 to login to AD and the other
to login to Netware?

I have the same questoin on the source files (when using FMU) are the files
gone from netware after the "load data" button is pressed?

thx
-Eric

"Vincent Xu [MSFT]" <v-xuwen@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:adfTnFwyFHA.768@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Hi Eric,

One-way Synchronization

This is a synchronization process that pushes changes made in Active
Directory to NDS or a NetWare 3.x bindery, but does not read changes made
in NDS. Active Directory-to-Novell synchronization flow is called forward
synchronization. Forward synchronization is incremental and granular at
the
attribute level (it reads changed objects from Active Directory and writes
only the modified attributes to NDS). Forward synchronization from Active
Directory to NDS requires no schema change on NDS. One-way synchronization
should be used when a customer wants to centralize directory
administration
in Active Directory or prepare to migrate from NDS or NetWare binderies to
Active Directory.

More information please refer to following site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/sfn/msdss.asp

Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security


--------------------
From: "eric romero" <e.romero@cgnet.com
Subject: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:05:08 -0700
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Hi all,

Please do you know if after using MSDSS 1-way synch the netweare
users/groups are going to stay in netware are going to be "moved" to AD?

For the same netware to Ad migration I plan to use File migration
utility;
do you kneo if whe ndoing the netware file migration doe sthe netware
files
got "moved' or they still stay in netware volumes?

thx
-Eric



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Vincent Xu [MSFT]
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003 Reply with quote
Hi Eric,

I'm not sure what's your concerns about this. My understanding is you want
to know one-way Synchronization copies or moves users from Netware, am I
right? one-way Synchronization copies users from Netware to AD. I found
another article may helps.

<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Tech
Ref/c99fa08f-ccad-49db-8c4f-9c515046d751.mspx>


Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security


--------------------
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Yes thanks for the reply, before the 1-way synch an inverse (NDS to AD)
synch will occur.

I just wonder to know what is really happening in that initial and unique
NDS to AD synch, is its that the netware users are gone from netware?
is it that a persons can use both usernames 1 to login to AD and the other
to login to Netware?

I have the same questoin on the source files (when using FMU) are the
files
gone from netware after the "load data" button is pressed?

thx
-Eric

"Vincent Xu [MSFT]" <v-xuwen@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:adfTnFwyFHA.768@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
Hi Eric,

One-way Synchronization

This is a synchronization process that pushes changes made in Active
Directory to NDS or a NetWare 3.x bindery, but does not read changes
made
in NDS. Active Directory-to-Novell synchronization flow is called
forward
synchronization. Forward synchronization is incremental and granular at
the
attribute level (it reads changed objects from Active Directory and
writes
only the modified attributes to NDS). Forward synchronization from
Active
Directory to NDS requires no schema change on NDS. One-way
synchronization
should be used when a customer wants to centralize directory
administration
in Active Directory or prepare to migrate from NDS or NetWare binderies
to
Active Directory.

More information please refer to following site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/sfn/msdss.asp

Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security


--------------------
From: "eric romero" <e.romero@cgnet.com
Subject: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:05:08 -0700
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Hi all,

Please do you know if after using MSDSS 1-way synch the netweare
users/groups are going to stay in netware are going to be "moved" to
AD?

For the same netware to Ad migration I plan to use File migration
utility;
do you kneo if whe ndoing the netware file migration doe sthe netware
files
got "moved' or they still stay in netware volumes?

thx
-Eric






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eric romero
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003 Reply with quote
Hi,

Thanks for the information, how about FMU? does it copy or move the files
from Netware to AD?
also do I need to run IPX/SPX on the AD side to either MSDSS or FMU? or is
there anyway to avoid IPX/PSX on the AD side to migrate from netware 6.x to
AD-2003?
I am also going to migrate GroupWise 6.x to Exchange2003. for the same
company.

Rgds,
Eric
"Vincent Xu [MSFT]" <v-xuwen@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%235yX5YWzFHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Hi Eric,

I'm not sure what's your concerns about this. My understanding is you want
to know one-way Synchronization copies or moves users from Netware, am I
right? one-way Synchronization copies users from Netware to AD. I found
another article may helps.


http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Tech
Ref/c99fa08f-ccad-49db-8c4f-9c515046d751.mspx


Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security


--------------------
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Yes thanks for the reply, before the 1-way synch an inverse (NDS to AD)
synch will occur.

I just wonder to know what is really happening in that initial and
unique
NDS to AD synch, is its that the netware users are gone from netware?
is it that a persons can use both usernames 1 to login to AD and the
other
to login to Netware?

I have the same questoin on the source files (when using FMU) are the
files
gone from netware after the "load data" button is pressed?

thx
-Eric

"Vincent Xu [MSFT]" <v-xuwen@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:adfTnFwyFHA.768@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
Hi Eric,

One-way Synchronization

This is a synchronization process that pushes changes made in Active
Directory to NDS or a NetWare 3.x bindery, but does not read changes
made
in NDS. Active Directory-to-Novell synchronization flow is called
forward
synchronization. Forward synchronization is incremental and granular
at
the
attribute level (it reads changed objects from Active Directory and
writes
only the modified attributes to NDS). Forward synchronization from
Active
Directory to NDS requires no schema change on NDS. One-way
synchronization
should be used when a customer wants to centralize directory
administration
in Active Directory or prepare to migrate from NDS or NetWare
binderies
to
Active Directory.

More information please refer to following site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/sfn/msdss.asp

Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security


--------------------
From: "eric romero" <e.romero@cgnet.com
Subject: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003
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Hi all,

Please do you know if after using MSDSS 1-way synch the netweare
users/groups are going to stay in netware are going to be "moved" to
AD?

For the same netware to Ad migration I plan to use File migration
utility;
do you kneo if whe ndoing the netware file migration doe sthe
netware
files
got "moved' or they still stay in netware volumes?

thx
-Eric







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Vincent Xu [MSFT]
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003 Reply with quote
Hi

Also copy. Please refer to following article:

<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Tech
Ref/978715be-6170-4e40-99ae-96681142fe84.mspx>

IPX/PSX is needed.

Regarding the issue about Exchange please post at :
microsoft.public.exchange.setup

Thanks.

Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security


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Hi,

Thanks for the information, how about FMU? does it copy or move the files
from Netware to AD?
also do I need to run IPX/SPX on the AD side to either MSDSS or FMU? or is
there anyway to avoid IPX/PSX on the AD side to migrate from netware 6.x
to
AD-2003?
I am also going to migrate GroupWise 6.x to Exchange2003. for the same
company.

Rgds,
Eric
"Vincent Xu [MSFT]" <v-xuwen@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%235yX5YWzFHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl...
Hi Eric,

I'm not sure what's your concerns about this. My understanding is you
want
to know one-way Synchronization copies or moves users from Netware, am I
right? one-way Synchronization copies users from Netware to AD. I found
another article may helps.


http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Te
ch
Ref/c99fa08f-ccad-49db-8c4f-9c515046d751.mspx


Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security


--------------------
From: "eric romero" <e.romero@cgnet.com
References: <eM8wmpsyFHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
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Subject: Re: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:06:01 -0700
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Yes thanks for the reply, before the 1-way synch an inverse (NDS to
AD)
synch will occur.

I just wonder to know what is really happening in that initial and
unique
NDS to AD synch, is its that the netware users are gone from netware?
is it that a persons can use both usernames 1 to login to AD and the
other
to login to Netware?

I have the same questoin on the source files (when using FMU) are the
files
gone from netware after the "load data" button is pressed?

thx
-Eric

"Vincent Xu [MSFT]" <v-xuwen@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:adfTnFwyFHA.768@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
Hi Eric,

One-way Synchronization

This is a synchronization process that pushes changes made in Active
Directory to NDS or a NetWare 3.x bindery, but does not read changes
made
in NDS. Active Directory-to-Novell synchronization flow is called
forward
synchronization. Forward synchronization is incremental and granular
at
the
attribute level (it reads changed objects from Active Directory and
writes
only the modified attributes to NDS). Forward synchronization from
Active
Directory to NDS requires no schema change on NDS. One-way
synchronization
should be used when a customer wants to centralize directory
administration
in Active Directory or prepare to migrate from NDS or NetWare
binderies
to
Active Directory.

More information please refer to following site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/sfn/msdss.asp

Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security


--------------------
From: "eric romero" <e.romero@cgnet.com
Subject: MSDSS+filemigrationutility Netware to AD2003
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:05:08 -0700
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Hi all,

Please do you know if after using MSDSS 1-way synch the netweare
users/groups are going to stay in netware are going to be "moved"
to
AD?

For the same netware to Ad migration I plan to use File migration
utility;
do you kneo if whe ndoing the netware file migration doe sthe
netware
files
got "moved' or they still stay in netware volumes?

thx
-Eric










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