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JP
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Help I cant Load or Uninstall Software Reply with quote

Hi
I have just got another problem with another SBS2000 server, for some
reason, i stop any services or uninstall any software or install any software
on the Server, it just hangs, the services do not stop, they come up with
stopping in status , and if i reboot the server, they all come back up, my
problem is what is stopping me unstall and install any software, we had
Sophos anti virus software , which got uninstalled by its self, and now i
can't install it again.

Has anyone come across this problem ( is this a virus )?

Help what do i do and where do i start?
JP
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Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: Help I cant Load or Uninstall Software Reply with quote

I don't have a good idea what would cause this, but you would start at the
event logs. Hopefully the services that stick in a "stopping" state might
log an error. Another idea would be to set the misbehaving services to
Manual and reboot. See if the server behaves better without them, which if
it does would give you an indication where to start troubleshooting. If not
starting a particular service makes the problem better, try starting the
service manually and see if things then start going bad. Typically in a
situation like this, you'd look to 3rd party (non-Microsoft) services first,
since if this were MS-related someone else in the group would probably have
seen it.

It's not customary for applications to uninstall themselves, so Sophos
support (web site or other) might be a good place to start with your
troubleshooting. I'd run one or two of the online virus scanners to see if
anything turns up - most of the AV vendors provide these from their web
sites.

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA0B1757-26EE-46DB-B35D-50C97B688FD3@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Hi
I have just got another problem with another SBS2000 server, for some
reason, i stop any services or uninstall any software or install any
software
on the Server, it just hangs, the services do not stop, they come up with
stopping in status , and if i reboot the server, they all come back up, my
problem is what is stopping me unstall and install any software, we had
Sophos anti virus software , which got uninstalled by its self, and now i
can't install it again.

Has anyone come across this problem ( is this a virus )?

Help what do i do and where do i start?
JP
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JP
Guest





Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:51 am    Post subject: RE: Help I cant Load or Uninstall Software Reply with quote

thanks i will try this and let you know what the out come was

"JP" wrote:

Quote:
Hi
I have just got another problem with another SBS2000 server, for some
reason, i stop any services or uninstall any software or install any software
on the Server, it just hangs, the services do not stop, they come up with
stopping in status , and if i reboot the server, they all come back up, my
problem is what is stopping me unstall and install any software, we had
Sophos anti virus software , which got uninstalled by its self, and now i
can't install it again.

Has anyone come across this problem ( is this a virus )?

Help what do i do and where do i start?
JP
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JP
Guest





Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Help I cant Load or Uninstall Software Reply with quote

Hi Dave,

I cant stop any services or unistall any software nor install any new
software.
I did run the Anti-virus software in Safe Mode and it did not pick up any
Virus.
Lost what next Guys pls help

never seen this type of problem before.

Jay

"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

Quote:
I don't have a good idea what would cause this, but you would start at the
event logs. Hopefully the services that stick in a "stopping" state might
log an error. Another idea would be to set the misbehaving services to
Manual and reboot. See if the server behaves better without them, which if
it does would give you an indication where to start troubleshooting. If not
starting a particular service makes the problem better, try starting the
service manually and see if things then start going bad. Typically in a
situation like this, you'd look to 3rd party (non-Microsoft) services first,
since if this were MS-related someone else in the group would probably have
seen it.

It's not customary for applications to uninstall themselves, so Sophos
support (web site or other) might be a good place to start with your
troubleshooting. I'd run one or two of the online virus scanners to see if
anything turns up - most of the AV vendors provide these from their web
sites.

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA0B1757-26EE-46DB-B35D-50C97B688FD3@microsoft.com...
Hi
I have just got another problem with another SBS2000 server, for some
reason, i stop any services or uninstall any software or install any
software
on the Server, it just hangs, the services do not stop, they come up with
stopping in status , and if i reboot the server, they all come back up, my
problem is what is stopping me unstall and install any software, we had
Sophos anti virus software , which got uninstalled by its self, and now i
can't install it again.

Has anyone come across this problem ( is this a virus )?

Help what do i do and where do i start?
JP


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ghost
Guest





Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: Help I cant Load or Uninstall Software Reply with quote

Jay,
I seem to have same problem and seem to be also stuck. will try few tricks
today and keep you posted if anythings moves me forward.
see you around

Ludi

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:854F01FD-3397-4E30-94A9-4E0799AB5B4E@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Hi Dave,

I cant stop any services or unistall any software nor install any new
software.
I did run the Anti-virus software in Safe Mode and it did not pick up any
Virus.
Lost what next Guys pls help

never seen this type of problem before.

Jay

"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

I don't have a good idea what would cause this, but you would start at
the
event logs. Hopefully the services that stick in a "stopping" state
might
log an error. Another idea would be to set the misbehaving services to
Manual and reboot. See if the server behaves better without them, which
if
it does would give you an indication where to start troubleshooting. If
not
starting a particular service makes the problem better, try starting the
service manually and see if things then start going bad. Typically in a
situation like this, you'd look to 3rd party (non-Microsoft) services
first,
since if this were MS-related someone else in the group would probably
have
seen it.

It's not customary for applications to uninstall themselves, so Sophos
support (web site or other) might be a good place to start with your
troubleshooting. I'd run one or two of the online virus scanners to see
if
anything turns up - most of the AV vendors provide these from their web
sites.

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA0B1757-26EE-46DB-B35D-50C97B688FD3@microsoft.com...
Hi
I have just got another problem with another SBS2000 server, for some
reason, i stop any services or uninstall any software or install any
software
on the Server, it just hangs, the services do not stop, they come up
with
stopping in status , and if i reboot the server, they all come back up,
my
problem is what is stopping me unstall and install any software, we had
Sophos anti virus software , which got uninstalled by its self, and now
i
can't install it again.

Has anyone come across this problem ( is this a virus )?

Help what do i do and where do i start?
JP


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JP
Guest





Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: Help I cant Load or Uninstall Software Reply with quote

boy if you find a fix for this i will owe you a lot of beers

"ghost" wrote:

Quote:
Jay,
I seem to have same problem and seem to be also stuck. will try few tricks
today and keep you posted if anythings moves me forward.
see you around

Ludi

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:854F01FD-3397-4E30-94A9-4E0799AB5B4E@microsoft.com...
Hi Dave,

I cant stop any services or unistall any software nor install any new
software.
I did run the Anti-virus software in Safe Mode and it did not pick up any
Virus.
Lost what next Guys pls help

never seen this type of problem before.

Jay

"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

I don't have a good idea what would cause this, but you would start at
the
event logs. Hopefully the services that stick in a "stopping" state
might
log an error. Another idea would be to set the misbehaving services to
Manual and reboot. See if the server behaves better without them, which
if
it does would give you an indication where to start troubleshooting. If
not
starting a particular service makes the problem better, try starting the
service manually and see if things then start going bad. Typically in a
situation like this, you'd look to 3rd party (non-Microsoft) services
first,
since if this were MS-related someone else in the group would probably
have
seen it.

It's not customary for applications to uninstall themselves, so Sophos
support (web site or other) might be a good place to start with your
troubleshooting. I'd run one or two of the online virus scanners to see
if
anything turns up - most of the AV vendors provide these from their web
sites.

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA0B1757-26EE-46DB-B35D-50C97B688FD3@microsoft.com...
Hi
I have just got another problem with another SBS2000 server, for some
reason, i stop any services or uninstall any software or install any
software
on the Server, it just hangs, the services do not stop, they come up
with
stopping in status , and if i reboot the server, they all come back up,
my
problem is what is stopping me unstall and install any software, we had
Sophos anti virus software , which got uninstalled by its self, and now
i
can't install it again.

Has anyone come across this problem ( is this a virus )?

Help what do i do and where do i start?
JP





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Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP
Guest





Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Help I cant Load or Uninstall Software Reply with quote

Do you have APC Powerchute software installed? There are some postings that
the problem with their software may also cause problems with stopping and
restarting services. See:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_21565235.html

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8BF5DA36-616A-4968-8311-05DC12B7700B@microsoft.com...
Quote:
boy if you find a fix for this i will owe you a lot of beers

"ghost" wrote:

Jay,
I seem to have same problem and seem to be also stuck. will try few
tricks
today and keep you posted if anythings moves me forward.
see you around

Ludi

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:854F01FD-3397-4E30-94A9-4E0799AB5B4E@microsoft.com...
Hi Dave,

I cant stop any services or unistall any software nor install any new
software.
I did run the Anti-virus software in Safe Mode and it did not pick up
any
Virus.
Lost what next Guys pls help

never seen this type of problem before.

Jay

"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

I don't have a good idea what would cause this, but you would start at
the
event logs. Hopefully the services that stick in a "stopping" state
might
log an error. Another idea would be to set the misbehaving services
to
Manual and reboot. See if the server behaves better without them,
which
if
it does would give you an indication where to start troubleshooting.
If
not
starting a particular service makes the problem better, try starting
the
service manually and see if things then start going bad. Typically in
a
situation like this, you'd look to 3rd party (non-Microsoft) services
first,
since if this were MS-related someone else in the group would probably
have
seen it.

It's not customary for applications to uninstall themselves, so Sophos
support (web site or other) might be a good place to start with your
troubleshooting. I'd run one or two of the online virus scanners to
see
if
anything turns up - most of the AV vendors provide these from their
web
sites.

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA0B1757-26EE-46DB-B35D-50C97B688FD3@microsoft.com...
Hi
I have just got another problem with another SBS2000 server, for
some
reason, i stop any services or uninstall any software or install any
software
on the Server, it just hangs, the services do not stop, they come up
with
stopping in status , and if i reboot the server, they all come back
up,
my
problem is what is stopping me unstall and install any software, we
had
Sophos anti virus software , which got uninstalled by its self, and
now
i
can't install it again.

Has anyone come across this problem ( is this a virus )?

Help what do i do and where do i start?
JP





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ghost
Guest





Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Help I cant Load or Uninstall Software Reply with quote

thanks Kevin,
it was ACP Powerchute. All is happily working now.
Jay, how is your server going? hope all goes well on your site as well.

Ludi


"Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" <kweilbacMVP@gte.net> wrote in message
news:%23%23KkIjAzFHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Do you have APC Powerchute software installed? There are some postings
that the problem with their software may also cause problems with stopping
and restarting services. See:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_21565235.html

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8BF5DA36-616A-4968-8311-05DC12B7700B@microsoft.com...
boy if you find a fix for this i will owe you a lot of beers

"ghost" wrote:

Jay,
I seem to have same problem and seem to be also stuck. will try few
tricks
today and keep you posted if anythings moves me forward.
see you around

Ludi

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:854F01FD-3397-4E30-94A9-4E0799AB5B4E@microsoft.com...
Hi Dave,

I cant stop any services or unistall any software nor install any new
software.
I did run the Anti-virus software in Safe Mode and it did not pick up
any
Virus.
Lost what next Guys pls help

never seen this type of problem before.

Jay

"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

I don't have a good idea what would cause this, but you would start
at
the
event logs. Hopefully the services that stick in a "stopping" state
might
log an error. Another idea would be to set the misbehaving services
to
Manual and reboot. See if the server behaves better without them,
which
if
it does would give you an indication where to start troubleshooting.
If
not
starting a particular service makes the problem better, try starting
the
service manually and see if things then start going bad. Typically
in a
situation like this, you'd look to 3rd party (non-Microsoft) services
first,
since if this were MS-related someone else in the group would
probably
have
seen it.

It's not customary for applications to uninstall themselves, so
Sophos
support (web site or other) might be a good place to start with your
troubleshooting. I'd run one or two of the online virus scanners to
see
if
anything turns up - most of the AV vendors provide these from their
web
sites.

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA0B1757-26EE-46DB-B35D-50C97B688FD3@microsoft.com...
Hi
I have just got another problem with another SBS2000 server, for
some
reason, i stop any services or uninstall any software or install
any
software
on the Server, it just hangs, the services do not stop, they come
up
with
stopping in status , and if i reboot the server, they all come back
up,
my
problem is what is stopping me unstall and install any software, we
had
Sophos anti virus software , which got uninstalled by its self, and
now
i
can't install it again.

Has anyone come across this problem ( is this a virus )?

Help what do i do and where do i start?
JP







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JP
Guest





Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Help I cant Load or Uninstall Software Reply with quote

H ludi,
i have not been to the site yet, but as soon as i have been there, will
unistall APC software if they have any, how did you unstall, it as i could
not unstall anything
regards
jay

"ghost" wrote:

Quote:
thanks Kevin,
it was ACP Powerchute. All is happily working now.
Jay, how is your server going? hope all goes well on your site as well.

Ludi


"Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" <kweilbacMVP@gte.net> wrote in message
news:%23%23KkIjAzFHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Do you have APC Powerchute software installed? There are some postings
that the problem with their software may also cause problems with stopping
and restarting services. See:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_21565235.html

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8BF5DA36-616A-4968-8311-05DC12B7700B@microsoft.com...
boy if you find a fix for this i will owe you a lot of beers

"ghost" wrote:

Jay,
I seem to have same problem and seem to be also stuck. will try few
tricks
today and keep you posted if anythings moves me forward.
see you around

Ludi

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:854F01FD-3397-4E30-94A9-4E0799AB5B4E@microsoft.com...
Hi Dave,

I cant stop any services or unistall any software nor install any new
software.
I did run the Anti-virus software in Safe Mode and it did not pick up
any
Virus.
Lost what next Guys pls help

never seen this type of problem before.

Jay

"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

I don't have a good idea what would cause this, but you would start
at
the
event logs. Hopefully the services that stick in a "stopping" state
might
log an error. Another idea would be to set the misbehaving services
to
Manual and reboot. See if the server behaves better without them,
which
if
it does would give you an indication where to start troubleshooting.
If
not
starting a particular service makes the problem better, try starting
the
service manually and see if things then start going bad. Typically
in a
situation like this, you'd look to 3rd party (non-Microsoft) services
first,
since if this were MS-related someone else in the group would
probably
have
seen it.

It's not customary for applications to uninstall themselves, so
Sophos
support (web site or other) might be a good place to start with your
troubleshooting. I'd run one or two of the online virus scanners to
see
if
anything turns up - most of the AV vendors provide these from their
web
sites.

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA0B1757-26EE-46DB-B35D-50C97B688FD3@microsoft.com...
Hi
I have just got another problem with another SBS2000 server, for
some
reason, i stop any services or uninstall any software or install
any
software
on the Server, it just hangs, the services do not stop, they come
up
with
stopping in status , and if i reboot the server, they all come back
up,
my
problem is what is stopping me unstall and install any software, we
had
Sophos anti virus software , which got uninstalled by its self, and
now
i
can't install it again.

Has anyone come across this problem ( is this a virus )?

Help what do i do and where do i start?
JP










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Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP
Guest





Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: Help I cant Load or Uninstall Software Reply with quote

Good to hear that solved your problem. The APC software bug created a wide
variety of problems for many, many people!

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


"ghost" <ghost@wasp.net.au> wrote in message
news:1128867481.80690@grimiore.conceptual.net.au...
Quote:
thanks Kevin,
it was ACP Powerchute. All is happily working now.
Jay, how is your server going? hope all goes well on your site as well.

Ludi


"Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" <kweilbacMVP@gte.net> wrote in message
news:%23%23KkIjAzFHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Do you have APC Powerchute software installed? There are some postings
that the problem with their software may also cause problems with
stopping and restarting services. See:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_21565235.html

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8BF5DA36-616A-4968-8311-05DC12B7700B@microsoft.com...
boy if you find a fix for this i will owe you a lot of beers

"ghost" wrote:

Jay,
I seem to have same problem and seem to be also stuck. will try few
tricks
today and keep you posted if anythings moves me forward.
see you around

Ludi

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:854F01FD-3397-4E30-94A9-4E0799AB5B4E@microsoft.com...
Hi Dave,

I cant stop any services or unistall any software nor install any new
software.
I did run the Anti-virus software in Safe Mode and it did not pick up
any
Virus.
Lost what next Guys pls help

never seen this type of problem before.

Jay

"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

I don't have a good idea what would cause this, but you would start
at
the
event logs. Hopefully the services that stick in a "stopping" state
might
log an error. Another idea would be to set the misbehaving services
to
Manual and reboot. See if the server behaves better without them,
which
if
it does would give you an indication where to start troubleshooting.
If
not
starting a particular service makes the problem better, try starting
the
service manually and see if things then start going bad. Typically
in a
situation like this, you'd look to 3rd party (non-Microsoft)
services
first,
since if this were MS-related someone else in the group would
probably
have
seen it.

It's not customary for applications to uninstall themselves, so
Sophos
support (web site or other) might be a good place to start with your
troubleshooting. I'd run one or two of the online virus scanners to
see
if
anything turns up - most of the AV vendors provide these from their
web
sites.

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA0B1757-26EE-46DB-B35D-50C97B688FD3@microsoft.com...
Hi
I have just got another problem with another SBS2000 server, for
some
reason, i stop any services or uninstall any software or install
any
software
on the Server, it just hangs, the services do not stop, they come
up
with
stopping in status , and if i reboot the server, they all come
back up,
my
problem is what is stopping me unstall and install any software,
we had
Sophos anti virus software , which got uninstalled by its self,
and now
i
can't install it again.

Has anyone come across this problem ( is this a virus )?

Help what do i do and where do i start?
JP









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ghost
Guest





Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: Help I cant Load or Uninstall Software Reply with quote

Jay,
I have rebooted in safe mode, then uninstalled OK.
saying that, I have tried to uninstall some otherthings before and also
could not uninstall. but before never tried APC.
cheers
Ludi


"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FB6E6673-D132-4A0E-81BF-161D9110F2B3@microsoft.com...
Quote:
H ludi,
i have not been to the site yet, but as soon as i have been there, will
unistall APC software if they have any, how did you unstall, it as i could
not unstall anything
regards
jay

"ghost" wrote:

thanks Kevin,
it was ACP Powerchute. All is happily working now.
Jay, how is your server going? hope all goes well on your site as well.

Ludi


"Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" <kweilbacMVP@gte.net> wrote in message
news:%23%23KkIjAzFHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Do you have APC Powerchute software installed? There are some postings
that the problem with their software may also cause problems with
stopping
and restarting services. See:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_21565235.html

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8BF5DA36-616A-4968-8311-05DC12B7700B@microsoft.com...
boy if you find a fix for this i will owe you a lot of beers

"ghost" wrote:

Jay,
I seem to have same problem and seem to be also stuck. will try few
tricks
today and keep you posted if anythings moves me forward.
see you around

Ludi

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:854F01FD-3397-4E30-94A9-4E0799AB5B4E@microsoft.com...
Hi Dave,

I cant stop any services or unistall any software nor install any
new
software.
I did run the Anti-virus software in Safe Mode and it did not pick
up
any
Virus.
Lost what next Guys pls help

never seen this type of problem before.

Jay

"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

I don't have a good idea what would cause this, but you would
start
at
the
event logs. Hopefully the services that stick in a "stopping"
state
might
log an error. Another idea would be to set the misbehaving
services
to
Manual and reboot. See if the server behaves better without them,
which
if
it does would give you an indication where to start
troubleshooting.
If
not
starting a particular service makes the problem better, try
starting
the
service manually and see if things then start going bad.
Typically
in a
situation like this, you'd look to 3rd party (non-Microsoft)
services
first,
since if this were MS-related someone else in the group would
probably
have
seen it.

It's not customary for applications to uninstall themselves, so
Sophos
support (web site or other) might be a good place to start with
your
troubleshooting. I'd run one or two of the online virus scanners
to
see
if
anything turns up - most of the AV vendors provide these from
their
web
sites.

"JP" <JP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA0B1757-26EE-46DB-B35D-50C97B688FD3@microsoft.com...
Hi
I have just got another problem with another SBS2000 server, for
some
reason, i stop any services or uninstall any software or install
any
software
on the Server, it just hangs, the services do not stop, they
come
up
with
stopping in status , and if i reboot the server, they all come
back
up,
my
problem is what is stopping me unstall and install any software,
we
had
Sophos anti virus software , which got uninstalled by its self,
and
now
i
can't install it again.

Has anyone come across this problem ( is this a virus )?

Help what do i do and where do i start?
JP










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