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OlleGudmund
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Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
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Hello!
Background: I am a teacher50% and systemadministrator 50% at
Palmcrantzskolan in Ostersund SWEDEN.
I have 6 terminal servers in a Novell network 5.x. Two
of these servers win2k3 I have installed network load balansing on.
I have Unicast with 1 nic on each server. The Cluster is named PZWTS-X3
IP:172.x.x.113 and the hosts PZWTS-X3A IP:172.x.x.114 and
PZWTS-X3B IP:172.x.x.115. First I connectet the hosts to a manageable
3Comswitch 3300 now I have connected them to a not manageable 3Comswitch
witch is connected to the 3300 switch with a little better result.The
ownwer of the City net accuse us for a lot of unnecessary traffic
on the net(fiber). They said they saw the heartbeat from the two servers
outside our shool
and that is wrong. They said that they should not see that traffic(heartbeat)
outside our school.
Q1 If I use the second NIC shall I then have 5 IP numbers? I have to
add 172.x.x.116 and 172.x.x.117 to the new NIC:s
How Shall I connect the new Cards 1) Crosslinked cable
2) to the big switch(3300) 3) to the small switch ?
Q2 Can I use two NIC:s(3 IP #) an chance from the small switch to
a Hub and do something in the registry (change some key).
Q3) Change to Multicast?
Q4 Is it impossible we have to live with that extra traffic?
Olle G Olsson
Palmcrantzskolan
Östersund
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Don Wilwol
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Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
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Use the second nic and a cross over. Then use a private address such as
10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x. You shouldn't use a public routable address for the
heartbeat.
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Hope it helps
dw
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Don Wilwol
donwilwol(DELETE)@yahoo.com
http://spaces.msn.com/members/wilwol/
"OlleGudmund" <olle.olsson(tabort)@zonline.se> wrote in message
news:C43D334C-19E5-45DB-B7E1-E1900F8A2996@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Hello!
Background: I am a teacher50% and systemadministrator 50% at
Palmcrantzskolan in Ostersund SWEDEN.
I have 6 terminal servers in a Novell network 5.x. Two
of these servers win2k3 I have installed network load balansing on.
I have Unicast with 1 nic on each server. The Cluster is named PZWTS-X3
IP:172.x.x.113 and the hosts PZWTS-X3A IP:172.x.x.114 and
PZWTS-X3B IP:172.x.x.115. First I connectet the hosts to a manageable
3Comswitch 3300 now I have connected them to a not manageable 3Comswitch
witch is connected to the 3300 switch with a little better result.The
ownwer of the City net accuse us for a lot of unnecessary traffic
on the net(fiber). They said they saw the heartbeat from the two servers
outside our shool
and that is wrong. They said that they should not see that
traffic(heartbeat)
outside our school.
Q1 If I use the second NIC shall I then have 5 IP numbers? I have to
add 172.x.x.116 and 172.x.x.117 to the new NIC:s
How Shall I connect the new Cards 1) Crosslinked cable
2) to the big switch(3300) 3) to the small switch ?
Q2 Can I use two NIC:s(3 IP #) an chance from the small switch to
a Hub and do something in the registry (change some key).
Q3) Change to Multicast?
Q4 Is it impossible we have to live with that extra traffic?
Olle G Olsson
Palmcrantzskolan
Östersund
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Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
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Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Minimize HeartBeat |
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Answer below...
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"OlleGudmund" <olle.olsson(tabort)@zonline.se> wrote in message
news:C43D334C-19E5-45DB-B7E1-E1900F8A2996@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Hello!
Background: I am a teacher50% and systemadministrator 50% at
Palmcrantzskolan in Ostersund SWEDEN.
I have 6 terminal servers in a Novell network 5.x. Two
of these servers win2k3 I have installed network load balansing on.
I have Unicast with 1 nic on each server. The Cluster is named PZWTS-X3
IP:172.x.x.113 and the hosts PZWTS-X3A IP:172.x.x.114 and
PZWTS-X3B IP:172.x.x.115. First I connectet the hosts to a manageable
3Comswitch 3300 now I have connected them to a not manageable 3Comswitch
witch is connected to the 3300 switch with a little better result.The
ownwer of the City net accuse us for a lot of unnecessary traffic
on the net(fiber). They said they saw the heartbeat from the two servers
outside our shool
and that is wrong. They said that they should not see that
traffic(heartbeat)
outside our school.
Q1 If I use the second NIC shall I then have 5 IP numbers? I have to
add 172.x.x.116 and 172.x.x.117 to the new NIC:s
How Shall I connect the new Cards 1) Crosslinked cable
2) to the big switch(3300) 3) to the small switch ?
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A second NIC is a wonderful idea and a best practice. Option 1 is not a bad
idea.
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Q2 Can I use two NIC:s(3 IP #) an chance from the small switch to
a Hub and do something in the registry (change some key).
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Do you mean 2 NICs per machine or total? Hubs will mostly help for the
inbound traffic.
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Q3) Change to Multicast?
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With two NIC's, you will use Unicast.
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Q4 Is it impossible we have to live with that extra traffic?
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Yes, and the heartbeat traffic should not be more then .50 percent of your
overall traffic. Ask them to filter it out :)
| Quote: | Olle G Olsson
Palmcrantzskolan
Östersund
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Olle O
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Minimize HeartBeat |
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Thanks!
New problems. Server 2 sends 1302 bytes but receives many bytes. Server 1
sends many bytes byt recieves 0 bytes. I have changed media from 100 Mbits
FullDuplex -> 100Mbits Half Duplex -> 10Mbit half Duplex on both machines.
Byt the result is the same. I followed the Heartbeat configuration published
under Q258750
What to do?
Olle G Olsson
Ostersund
Jamtland
Sweden
e-post olle.olsson (then) at (and) zonline.se
"Don Wilwol" wrote:
| Quote: | Use the second nic and a cross over. Then use a private address such as
10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x. You shouldn't use a public routable address for the
heartbeat.
--
Hope it helps
dw
_______________________________
Don Wilwol
donwilwol(DELETE)@yahoo.com
http://spaces.msn.com/members/wilwol/
"OlleGudmund" <olle.olsson(tabort)@zonline.se> wrote in message
news:C43D334C-19E5-45DB-B7E1-E1900F8A2996@microsoft.com...
Hello!
Background: I am a teacher50% and systemadministrator 50% at
Palmcrantzskolan in Ostersund SWEDEN.
I have 6 terminal servers in a Novell network 5.x. Two
of these servers win2k3 I have installed network load balansing on.
I have Unicast with 1 nic on each server. The Cluster is named PZWTS-X3
IP:172.x.x.113 and the hosts PZWTS-X3A IP:172.x.x.114 and
PZWTS-X3B IP:172.x.x.115. First I connectet the hosts to a manageable
3Comswitch 3300 now I have connected them to a not manageable 3Comswitch
witch is connected to the 3300 switch with a little better result.The
ownwer of the City net accuse us for a lot of unnecessary traffic
on the net(fiber). They said they saw the heartbeat from the two servers
outside our shool
and that is wrong. They said that they should not see that
traffic(heartbeat)
outside our school.
Q1 If I use the second NIC shall I then have 5 IP numbers? I have to
add 172.x.x.116 and 172.x.x.117 to the new NIC:s
How Shall I connect the new Cards 1) Crosslinked cable
2) to the big switch(3300) 3) to the small switch ?
Q2 Can I use two NIC:s(3 IP #) an chance from the small switch to
a Hub and do something in the registry (change some key).
Q3) Change to Multicast?
Q4 Is it impossible we have to live with that extra traffic?
Olle G Olsson
Palmcrantzskolan
Östersund
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Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Minimize HeartBeat |
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Is the switch hardcoded? Do you have the latest NIC drivers?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"Olle O" <OlleO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2366E5FA-E01D-4CBF-84EC-C4DCC8F92B31@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Thanks!
New problems. Server 2 sends 1302 bytes but receives many bytes. Server 1
sends many bytes byt recieves 0 bytes. I have changed media from 100 Mbits
FullDuplex -> 100Mbits Half Duplex -> 10Mbit half Duplex on both
machines.
Byt the result is the same. I followed the Heartbeat configuration
published
under Q258750
What to do?
Olle G Olsson
Ostersund
Jamtland
Sweden
e-post olle.olsson (then) at (and) zonline.se
"Don Wilwol" wrote:
Use the second nic and a cross over. Then use a private address such as
10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x. You shouldn't use a public routable address for
the
heartbeat.
--
Hope it helps
dw
_______________________________
Don Wilwol
donwilwol(DELETE)@yahoo.com
http://spaces.msn.com/members/wilwol/
"OlleGudmund" <olle.olsson(tabort)@zonline.se> wrote in message
news:C43D334C-19E5-45DB-B7E1-E1900F8A2996@microsoft.com...
Hello!
Background: I am a teacher50% and systemadministrator 50% at
Palmcrantzskolan in Ostersund SWEDEN.
I have 6 terminal servers in a Novell network 5.x. Two
of these servers win2k3 I have installed network load balansing on.
I have Unicast with 1 nic on each server. The Cluster is named PZWTS-X3
IP:172.x.x.113 and the hosts PZWTS-X3A IP:172.x.x.114 and
PZWTS-X3B IP:172.x.x.115. First I connectet the hosts to a manageable
3Comswitch 3300 now I have connected them to a not manageable
3Comswitch
witch is connected to the 3300 switch with a little better result.The
ownwer of the City net accuse us for a lot of unnecessary traffic
on the net(fiber). They said they saw the heartbeat from the two
servers
outside our shool
and that is wrong. They said that they should not see that
traffic(heartbeat)
outside our school.
Q1 If I use the second NIC shall I then have 5 IP numbers? I have to
add 172.x.x.116 and 172.x.x.117 to the new NIC:s
How Shall I connect the new Cards 1) Crosslinked cable
2) to the big switch(3300) 3) to the small switch ?
Q2 Can I use two NIC:s(3 IP #) an chance from the small switch to
a Hub and do something in the registry (change some key).
Q3) Change to Multicast?
Q4 Is it impossible we have to live with that extra traffic?
Olle G Olsson
Palmcrantzskolan
Östersund
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Olle O
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Minimize HeartBeat |
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The problem is with the cards with crosslinked cables. These cards is not
connected to a switch. I want the HeartBeat to go through this cable. Is it
possible to check that it works?
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Olle G Olsson
Ostersund
Jamtland
Sweden
e-post olle.olsson (then) at (and) zonline.se
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
| Quote: | Is the switch hardcoded? Do you have the latest NIC drivers?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"Olle O" <OlleO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2366E5FA-E01D-4CBF-84EC-C4DCC8F92B31@microsoft.com...
Thanks!
New problems. Server 2 sends 1302 bytes but receives many bytes. Server 1
sends many bytes byt recieves 0 bytes. I have changed media from 100 Mbits
FullDuplex -> 100Mbits Half Duplex -> 10Mbit half Duplex on both
machines.
Byt the result is the same. I followed the Heartbeat configuration
published
under Q258750
What to do?
Olle G Olsson
Ostersund
Jamtland
Sweden
e-post olle.olsson (then) at (and) zonline.se
"Don Wilwol" wrote:
Use the second nic and a cross over. Then use a private address such as
10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x. You shouldn't use a public routable address for
the
heartbeat.
--
Hope it helps
dw
_______________________________
Don Wilwol
donwilwol(DELETE)@yahoo.com
http://spaces.msn.com/members/wilwol/
"OlleGudmund" <olle.olsson(tabort)@zonline.se> wrote in message
news:C43D334C-19E5-45DB-B7E1-E1900F8A2996@microsoft.com...
Hello!
Background: I am a teacher50% and systemadministrator 50% at
Palmcrantzskolan in Ostersund SWEDEN.
I have 6 terminal servers in a Novell network 5.x. Two
of these servers win2k3 I have installed network load balansing on.
I have Unicast with 1 nic on each server. The Cluster is named PZWTS-X3
IP:172.x.x.113 and the hosts PZWTS-X3A IP:172.x.x.114 and
PZWTS-X3B IP:172.x.x.115. First I connectet the hosts to a manageable
3Comswitch 3300 now I have connected them to a not manageable
3Comswitch
witch is connected to the 3300 switch with a little better result.The
ownwer of the City net accuse us for a lot of unnecessary traffic
on the net(fiber). They said they saw the heartbeat from the two
servers
outside our shool
and that is wrong. They said that they should not see that
traffic(heartbeat)
outside our school.
Q1 If I use the second NIC shall I then have 5 IP numbers? I have to
add 172.x.x.116 and 172.x.x.117 to the new NIC:s
How Shall I connect the new Cards 1) Crosslinked cable
2) to the big switch(3300) 3) to the small switch ?
Q2 Can I use two NIC:s(3 IP #) an chance from the small switch to
a Hub and do something in the registry (change some key).
Q3) Change to Multicast?
Q4 Is it impossible we have to live with that extra traffic?
Olle G Olsson
Palmcrantzskolan
Östersund
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Don Wilwol
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Minimize HeartBeat |
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ping the opposite card.
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Hope it helps...........
dw
Don Wilwol
Blog - http://spaces.msn.com/members/wilwol/
Web - http://capital.net/~wilwol/dw.htm
DonWilwol(REMOVE)@yahoo.com
"Olle O" <OlleO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:58A9573B-F394-4995-9732-5DB2BCAF2D82@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | The problem is with the cards with crosslinked cables. These cards is not
connected to a switch. I want the HeartBeat to go through this cable. Is
it
possible to check that it works?
--
Olle G Olsson
Ostersund
Jamtland
Sweden
e-post olle.olsson (then) at (and) zonline.se
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
Is the switch hardcoded? Do you have the latest NIC drivers?
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
"Olle O" <OlleO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2366E5FA-E01D-4CBF-84EC-C4DCC8F92B31@microsoft.com...
Thanks!
New problems. Server 2 sends 1302 bytes but receives many bytes. Server
1
sends many bytes byt recieves 0 bytes. I have changed media from 100
Mbits
FullDuplex -> 100Mbits Half Duplex -> 10Mbit half Duplex on both
machines.
Byt the result is the same. I followed the Heartbeat configuration
published
under Q258750
What to do?
Olle G Olsson
Ostersund
Jamtland
Sweden
e-post olle.olsson (then) at (and) zonline.se
"Don Wilwol" wrote:
Use the second nic and a cross over. Then use a private address such
as
10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x. You shouldn't use a public routable address
for
the
heartbeat.
--
Hope it helps
dw
_______________________________
Don Wilwol
donwilwol(DELETE)@yahoo.com
http://spaces.msn.com/members/wilwol/
"OlleGudmund" <olle.olsson(tabort)@zonline.se> wrote in message
news:C43D334C-19E5-45DB-B7E1-E1900F8A2996@microsoft.com...
Hello!
Background: I am a teacher50% and systemadministrator 50% at
Palmcrantzskolan in Ostersund SWEDEN.
I have 6 terminal servers in a Novell network 5.x. Two
of these servers win2k3 I have installed network load balansing on.
I have Unicast with 1 nic on each server. The Cluster is named
PZWTS-X3
IP:172.x.x.113 and the hosts PZWTS-X3A IP:172.x.x.114 and
PZWTS-X3B IP:172.x.x.115. First I connectet the hosts to a
manageable
3Comswitch 3300 now I have connected them to a not manageable
3Comswitch
witch is connected to the 3300 switch with a little better
result.The
ownwer of the City net accuse us for a lot of unnecessary traffic
on the net(fiber). They said they saw the heartbeat from the two
servers
outside our shool
and that is wrong. They said that they should not see that
traffic(heartbeat)
outside our school.
Q1 If I use the second NIC shall I then have 5 IP numbers? I have to
add 172.x.x.116 and 172.x.x.117 to the new NIC:s
How Shall I connect the new Cards 1) Crosslinked cable
2) to the big switch(3300) 3) to the small switch ?
Q2 Can I use two NIC:s(3 IP #) an chance from the small switch to
a Hub and do something in the registry (change some key).
Q3) Change to Multicast?
Q4 Is it impossible we have to live with that extra traffic?
Olle G Olsson
Palmcrantzskolan
Östersund
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