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david@catnospam.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

Hi,

I have installed HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1, and I can not register
any of my DLL's for Windows Initiated Processing on the server. I get the
following error:

Progress
(5600) An Object "PBook.IPhoneBook.1", contained in the file "C:\HIS
DLLs\PBook.DLL", could not be installed in the Virtual Directory "Default Web
Site/HIS". Generation of a proxy failed with "Error: Unable to retrieve
schema from url: http://servername:80/HIS/PBook.rem?wsdl, The underlying
connection was closed: Unable to connect to the remote server.".

Finished

Being told that it was a permissions error, for testing, I created a local
account on the server, gave it admin priv's, and then had my ASP.NET
application pool use that account to run. I still continue to get the same
error.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
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Neil Pike
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

David - WIP's not my thing, but when someone else had the same problem last
year, Rob Beardsworth (MS) who does know WIP(!), posted the below.

-----------

the schema is generated on the fly by the remoting infrastructure, you
can't find it anywhere :-). There are multiple possibilities here, most of
which are security related. Are you running IIS5 or IIS6? Does your Virtual
Directory allow anonymous access? Does the web.config file in the Virtual
Directory contain the line: <identity impersonate="true" />? Do you have
SPS installed (if so there is a Global web.config line containing that
impersonate=true)? If you allow anonymous access and there is an
impersonate=true somewhere, things are running under IUSR, and this will
probably fail, try adding the line <identity impersonate="false" /> to the
web.config of the virtual directory you are using, or remove the allow
anonymous access for this directory. Is the process aspnet_wp.exe or
w3wp.exe (IIS5 vs IIS6) running under an account that is a member of the
HIS Runtime group?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP
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david@catnospam.com
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

Hi Neil,

Just in case Rob (or anyone else with WIP experience) is reading this, I'll
answer all of the questions that you posted...

1) I'm running IIS 6 (Only option on Windows Server 2003)
2) Yes, my virtual directory allowed anonymous access when I started.
3) I searched the entire HD and didn't see any "global" web.config files
that would overide my local one. The Machine.config has identity
impersonate=false. Just for kicks I tried adding that statement into the
Web.config for my HIS virtual directory. Same error
4) I tried removing anonymous access to the virtual directory and put in a
user name / pwd that had admin access when prompted in HIS 2004. Still no
luck. (Same Error)
5) I created a separate App Pool for my HIS Virtual directory and have it
running under the same admin account used in step 4. It is in the HIS
Administrators group (tried just the runtime group as well). Still same error.

Any other suggestions? LOL :-)

David




"Neil Pike" wrote:

Quote:
David - WIP's not my thing, but when someone else had the same problem last
year, Rob Beardsworth (MS) who does know WIP(!), posted the below.

-----------

the schema is generated on the fly by the remoting infrastructure, you
can't find it anywhere :-). There are multiple possibilities here, most of
which are security related. Are you running IIS5 or IIS6? Does your Virtual
Directory allow anonymous access? Does the web.config file in the Virtual
Directory contain the line: <identity impersonate="true" />? Do you have
SPS installed (if so there is a Global web.config line containing that
impersonate=true)? If you allow anonymous access and there is an
impersonate=true somewhere, things are running under IUSR, and this will
probably fail, try adding the line <identity impersonate="false" /> to the
web.config of the virtual directory you are using, or remove the allow
anonymous access for this directory. Is the process aspnet_wp.exe or
w3wp.exe (IIS5 vs IIS6) running under an account that is a member of the
HIS Runtime group?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP


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Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

Yeah, here I am! :-) Unfortunately most of the answers are bad news.
However: have you looked in your Security Event Log for entries of the type
"couldn't log in as type 4" ? If the account you specified does not have
the local security policy needed, you will get such an event. I never know
which one it is, I tend to add all of the "log in as" rights to the account
I am using! When you open IIS6, looking at the bottom of the snap-in, you
see "Web Service Extensions" and when you click on it on the right you
should see "Asp .Net v..bla enabled". If it isn't make it so.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
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References: <2A3701C2-5B54-4E90-B1F2-F99F52176D42@microsoft.com>
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Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:17:03 -0700

Hi Neil,

Just in case Rob (or anyone else with WIP experience) is reading this, I'll
answer all of the questions that you posted...

1) I'm running IIS 6 (Only option on Windows Server 2003)
2) Yes, my virtual directory allowed anonymous access when I started.
3) I searched the entire HD and didn't see any "global" web.config files
that would overide my local one. The Machine.config has identity
impersonate=false. Just for kicks I tried adding that statement into the
Web.config for my HIS virtual directory. Same error
4) I tried removing anonymous access to the virtual directory and put in a
user name / pwd that had admin access when prompted in HIS 2004. Still no
luck. (Same Error)
5) I created a separate App Pool for my HIS Virtual directory and have it
running under the same admin account used in step 4. It is in the HIS
Administrators group (tried just the runtime group as well). Still same
error.

Any other suggestions? LOL :-)

David




"Neil Pike" wrote:

Quote:
David - WIP's not my thing, but when someone else had the same problem
last
year, Rob Beardsworth (MS) who does know WIP(!), posted the below.

-----------

the schema is generated on the fly by the remoting infrastructure, you
can't find it anywhere :-). There are multiple possibilities here, most
of
which are security related. Are you running IIS5 or IIS6? Does your
Virtual
Directory allow anonymous access? Does the web.config file in the Virtual
Directory contain the line: <identity impersonate="true" />? Do you have
SPS installed (if so there is a Global web.config line containing that
impersonate=true)? If you allow anonymous access and there is an
impersonate=true somewhere, things are running under IUSR, and this will
probably fail, try adding the line <identity impersonate="false" /> to
the
web.config of the virtual directory you are using, or remove the allow
anonymous access for this directory. Is the process aspnet_wp.exe or
w3wp.exe (IIS5 vs IIS6) running under an account that is a member of the
HIS Runtime group?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP


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david@catnospam.com
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

Oh, and yes, ASP is installed / enabled on this server...

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Quote:
Yeah, here I am! :-) Unfortunately most of the answers are bad news.
However: have you looked in your Security Event Log for entries of the type
"couldn't log in as type 4" ? If the account you specified does not have
the local security policy needed, you will get such an event. I never know
which one it is, I tend to add all of the "log in as" rights to the account
I am using! When you open IIS6, looking at the bottom of the snap-in, you
see "Web Service Extensions" and when you click on it on the right you
should see "Asp .Net v..bla enabled". If it isn't make it so.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
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References: <2A3701C2-5B54-4E90-B1F2-F99F52176D42@microsoft.com
VA.00006319.08bf6f18@compuserve.com
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:17:03 -0700

Hi Neil,

Just in case Rob (or anyone else with WIP experience) is reading this, I'll
answer all of the questions that you posted...

1) I'm running IIS 6 (Only option on Windows Server 2003)
2) Yes, my virtual directory allowed anonymous access when I started.
3) I searched the entire HD and didn't see any "global" web.config files
that would overide my local one. The Machine.config has identity
impersonate=false. Just for kicks I tried adding that statement into the
Web.config for my HIS virtual directory. Same error
4) I tried removing anonymous access to the virtual directory and put in a
user name / pwd that had admin access when prompted in HIS 2004. Still no
luck. (Same Error)
5) I created a separate App Pool for my HIS Virtual directory and have it
running under the same admin account used in step 4. It is in the HIS
Administrators group (tried just the runtime group as well). Still same
error.

Any other suggestions? LOL :-)

David




"Neil Pike" wrote:

David - WIP's not my thing, but when someone else had the same problem
last
year, Rob Beardsworth (MS) who does know WIP(!), posted the below.

-----------

the schema is generated on the fly by the remoting infrastructure, you
can't find it anywhere :-). There are multiple possibilities here, most
of
which are security related. Are you running IIS5 or IIS6? Does your
Virtual
Directory allow anonymous access? Does the web.config file in the Virtual
Directory contain the line: <identity impersonate="true" />? Do you have
SPS installed (if so there is a Global web.config line containing that
impersonate=true)? If you allow anonymous access and there is an
impersonate=true somewhere, things are running under IUSR, and this will
probably fail, try adding the line <identity impersonate="false" /> to
the
web.config of the virtual directory you are using, or remove the allow
anonymous access for this directory. Is the process aspnet_wp.exe or
w3wp.exe (IIS5 vs IIS6) running under an account that is a member of the
HIS Runtime group?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP



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david@catnospam.com
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

Hi Rob,

Ok, I tried adding my DLL again in the TI Manager and checked the Security
Event Log in the Event Viewer, and I didn't see any failures when I tried it.
Actually, there were all successes, and it showed it changing from my login
credentials to my HIS account. However, in the final "success" message, it
does say that the Logon Type is "3".
I researched this here:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technologies/security/bpactlck.mspx
and according to this document, a type 3 is a network login. I am accessing
my HIS Server via Remote Desktop Connection. So I went ahead and tried going
directly to the server and running the TI Manager, and still get the same
error...

Do I have something set up incorrectly with my HIS account?

Thanks!
David

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Quote:
Yeah, here I am! :-) Unfortunately most of the answers are bad news.
However: have you looked in your Security Event Log for entries of the type
"couldn't log in as type 4" ? If the account you specified does not have
the local security policy needed, you will get such an event. I never know
which one it is, I tend to add all of the "log in as" rights to the account
I am using! When you open IIS6, looking at the bottom of the snap-in, you
see "Web Service Extensions" and when you click on it on the right you
should see "Asp .Net v..bla enabled". If it isn't make it so.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
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References: <2A3701C2-5B54-4E90-B1F2-F99F52176D42@microsoft.com
VA.00006319.08bf6f18@compuserve.com
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:17:03 -0700

Hi Neil,

Just in case Rob (or anyone else with WIP experience) is reading this, I'll
answer all of the questions that you posted...

1) I'm running IIS 6 (Only option on Windows Server 2003)
2) Yes, my virtual directory allowed anonymous access when I started.
3) I searched the entire HD and didn't see any "global" web.config files
that would overide my local one. The Machine.config has identity
impersonate=false. Just for kicks I tried adding that statement into the
Web.config for my HIS virtual directory. Same error
4) I tried removing anonymous access to the virtual directory and put in a
user name / pwd that had admin access when prompted in HIS 2004. Still no
luck. (Same Error)
5) I created a separate App Pool for my HIS Virtual directory and have it
running under the same admin account used in step 4. It is in the HIS
Administrators group (tried just the runtime group as well). Still same
error.

Any other suggestions? LOL :-)

David




"Neil Pike" wrote:

David - WIP's not my thing, but when someone else had the same problem
last
year, Rob Beardsworth (MS) who does know WIP(!), posted the below.

-----------

the schema is generated on the fly by the remoting infrastructure, you
can't find it anywhere :-). There are multiple possibilities here, most
of
which are security related. Are you running IIS5 or IIS6? Does your
Virtual
Directory allow anonymous access? Does the web.config file in the Virtual
Directory contain the line: <identity impersonate="true" />? Do you have
SPS installed (if so there is a Global web.config line containing that
impersonate=true)? If you allow anonymous access and there is an
impersonate=true somewhere, things are running under IUSR, and this will
probably fail, try adding the line <identity impersonate="false" /> to
the
web.config of the virtual directory you are using, or remove the allow
anonymous access for this directory. Is the process aspnet_wp.exe or
w3wp.exe (IIS5 vs IIS6) running under an account that is a member of the
HIS Runtime group?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP



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Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

Grasping at straws here: Is the asp.net that is enabled the right one? :-)
If you go to windows\microsoft.net\framework you should have a directory
v1.1.4322, could you go to this directory, run:

aspnet_regiis.exe -ua

followed by

aspnet_regiis.exe -i

You might have to go back to the IIS snapin and reenable ASP.NET (not
sure).

Otherwise, turn on Fusion logging (really grasping here) to see if some
Assembly cannot be loaded.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
Thread-Topic: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:06:01 -0700
Lines: 83

Oh, and yes, ASP is installed / enabled on this server...

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Quote:
Yeah, here I am! :-) Unfortunately most of the answers are bad news.
However: have you looked in your Security Event Log for entries of the
type
"couldn't log in as type 4" ? If the account you specified does not have
the local security policy needed, you will get such an event. I never
know
which one it is, I tend to add all of the "log in as" rights to the
account
I am using! When you open IIS6, looking at the bottom of the snap-in, you
see "Web Service Extensions" and when you click on it on the right you
should see "Asp .Net v..bla enabled". If it isn't make it so.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "=?Utf-8?B?ZGF2aWRAY2F0bm9zcGFtLmNvbQ==?=" <david@catnospam.com
References: <2A3701C2-5B54-4E90-B1F2-F99F52176D42@microsoft.com
VA.00006319.08bf6f18@compuserve.com
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:17:03 -0700

Hi Neil,

Just in case Rob (or anyone else with WIP experience) is reading this,
I'll
answer all of the questions that you posted...

1) I'm running IIS 6 (Only option on Windows Server 2003)
2) Yes, my virtual directory allowed anonymous access when I started.
3) I searched the entire HD and didn't see any "global" web.config files
that would overide my local one. The Machine.config has identity
impersonate=false. Just for kicks I tried adding that statement into the
Web.config for my HIS virtual directory. Same error
4) I tried removing anonymous access to the virtual directory and put in
a
user name / pwd that had admin access when prompted in HIS 2004. Still
no
luck. (Same Error)
5) I created a separate App Pool for my HIS Virtual directory and have it
running under the same admin account used in step 4. It is in the HIS
Administrators group (tried just the runtime group as well). Still same
error.

Any other suggestions? LOL :-)

David




"Neil Pike" wrote:

David - WIP's not my thing, but when someone else had the same problem
last
year, Rob Beardsworth (MS) who does know WIP(!), posted the below.

-----------

the schema is generated on the fly by the remoting infrastructure, you
can't find it anywhere :-). There are multiple possibilities here, most
of
which are security related. Are you running IIS5 or IIS6? Does your
Virtual
Directory allow anonymous access? Does the web.config file in the
Virtual
Directory contain the line: <identity impersonate="true" />? Do you
have
SPS installed (if so there is a Global web.config line containing that
impersonate=true)? If you allow anonymous access and there is an
impersonate=true somewhere, things are running under IUSR, and this
will
probably fail, try adding the line <identity impersonate="false" /> to
the
web.config of the virtual directory you are using, or remove the allow
anonymous access for this directory. Is the process aspnet_wp.exe or
w3wp.exe (IIS5 vs IIS6) running under an account that is a member of
the
HIS Runtime group?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP



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Neil Pike
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

David,

If it was me I'd be trying the config on each of Windows 2003 RTM and Windows
2000 SP4. I've no idea what's causing the issue you're seeing, but I've seen
plenty of weird "errors" caused by both Windows 2003 (vs Windows 2000) and
Windows 2003 SP1 (vs Windows 2003).

I'd also try, probably before the above (unless you have spare servers already
running the above), running regmon and filemon against the his and iis processes
when you get the error message to see if access to some file and/or reg
key/class is being denied, or not being found, just before the error is raised.
It can sometimes be like looking for a needle in a haystack, but it's worked for
me many times.

Quote:
So I guess my question is, does anyone have this running on Windows Server
2003 SP1? I'm trying to evaluate the functionality of HIS 2004, and if I
can't even get it running, it's really going to get some bad marks... LOL

Thanks!
David

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Grasping at straws here: Is the asp.net that is enabled the right one? :-)
If you go to windows\microsoft.net\framework you should have a directory
v1.1.4322, could you go to this directory, run:

aspnet_regiis.exe -ua

followed by

aspnet_regiis.exe -i

You might have to go back to the IIS snapin and reenable ASP.NET (not
sure).

Otherwise, turn on Fusion logging (really grasping here) to see if some
Assembly cannot be loaded.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
Thread-Topic: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:06:01 -0700
Lines: 83

Oh, and yes, ASP is installed / enabled on this server...

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Yeah, here I am! :-) Unfortunately most of the answers are bad news.
However: have you looked in your Security Event Log for entries of the
type
"couldn't log in as type 4" ? If the account you specified does not have
the local security policy needed, you will get such an event. I never
know
which one it is, I tend to add all of the "log in as" rights to the
account
I am using! When you open IIS6, looking at the bottom of the snap-in, you
see "Web Service Extensions" and when you click on it on the right you
should see "Asp .Net v..bla enabled". If it isn't make it so.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "=?Utf-8?B?ZGF2aWRAY2F0bm9zcGFtLmNvbQ==?=" <david@catnospam.com
References: <2A3701C2-5B54-4E90-B1F2-F99F52176D42@microsoft.com
VA.00006319.08bf6f18@compuserve.com
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:17:03 -0700

Hi Neil,

Just in case Rob (or anyone else with WIP experience) is reading this,
I'll
answer all of the questions that you posted...

1) I'm running IIS 6 (Only option on Windows Server 2003)
2) Yes, my virtual directory allowed anonymous access when I started.
3) I searched the entire HD and didn't see any "global" web.config files
that would overide my local one. The Machine.config has identity
impersonate=false. Just for kicks I tried adding that statement into the
Web.config for my HIS virtual directory. Same error
4) I tried removing anonymous access to the virtual directory and put in
a
user name / pwd that had admin access when prompted in HIS 2004. Still
no
luck. (Same Error)
5) I created a separate App Pool for my HIS Virtual directory and have it
running under the same admin account used in step 4. It is in the HIS
Administrators group (tried just the runtime group as well). Still same
error.

Any other suggestions? LOL :-)

David




"Neil Pike" wrote:

David - WIP's not my thing, but when someone else had the same problem
last
year, Rob Beardsworth (MS) who does know WIP(!), posted the below.

-----------

the schema is generated on the fly by the remoting infrastructure, you
can't find it anywhere :-). There are multiple possibilities here, most
of
which are security related. Are you running IIS5 or IIS6? Does your
Virtual
Directory allow anonymous access? Does the web.config file in the
Virtual
Directory contain the line: <identity impersonate="true" />? Do you
have
SPS installed (if so there is a Global web.config line containing that
impersonate=true)? If you allow anonymous access and there is an
impersonate=true somewhere, things are running under IUSR, and this
will
probably fail, try adding the line <identity impersonate="false" /> to
the
web.config of the virtual directory you are using, or remove the allow
anonymous access for this directory. Is the process aspnet_wp.exe or
w3wp.exe (IIS5 vs IIS6) running under an account that is a member of
the
HIS Runtime group?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP







Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

Hi Rob,

Ok, I uninstalled ASP.NET (1.1.4322...) and reinstalled using aspnet_regiis
as you suggested. I did have to go back into the IIS Manager and enable
ASP.NET.

I tried my test ASP.NET app (does a simple select from a SQL Server), and
it's running, so I know ASP.NET is installed/configured.

The TI Manager still throws my initial exception. :-(

So I guess my question is, does anyone have this running on Windows Server
2003 SP1? I'm trying to evaluate the functionality of HIS 2004, and if I
can't even get it running, it's really going to get some bad marks... LOL

Thanks!
David

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Quote:
Grasping at straws here: Is the asp.net that is enabled the right one? :-)
If you go to windows\microsoft.net\framework you should have a directory
v1.1.4322, could you go to this directory, run:

aspnet_regiis.exe -ua

followed by

aspnet_regiis.exe -i

You might have to go back to the IIS snapin and reenable ASP.NET (not
sure).

Otherwise, turn on Fusion logging (really grasping here) to see if some
Assembly cannot be loaded.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
Thread-Topic: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:06:01 -0700
Lines: 83

Oh, and yes, ASP is installed / enabled on this server...

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Yeah, here I am! :-) Unfortunately most of the answers are bad news.
However: have you looked in your Security Event Log for entries of the
type
"couldn't log in as type 4" ? If the account you specified does not have
the local security policy needed, you will get such an event. I never
know
which one it is, I tend to add all of the "log in as" rights to the
account
I am using! When you open IIS6, looking at the bottom of the snap-in, you
see "Web Service Extensions" and when you click on it on the right you
should see "Asp .Net v..bla enabled". If it isn't make it so.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
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From: "=?Utf-8?B?ZGF2aWRAY2F0bm9zcGFtLmNvbQ==?=" <david@catnospam.com
References: <2A3701C2-5B54-4E90-B1F2-F99F52176D42@microsoft.com
VA.00006319.08bf6f18@compuserve.com
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:17:03 -0700

Hi Neil,

Just in case Rob (or anyone else with WIP experience) is reading this,
I'll
answer all of the questions that you posted...

1) I'm running IIS 6 (Only option on Windows Server 2003)
2) Yes, my virtual directory allowed anonymous access when I started.
3) I searched the entire HD and didn't see any "global" web.config files
that would overide my local one. The Machine.config has identity
impersonate=false. Just for kicks I tried adding that statement into the
Web.config for my HIS virtual directory. Same error
4) I tried removing anonymous access to the virtual directory and put in
a
user name / pwd that had admin access when prompted in HIS 2004. Still
no
luck. (Same Error)
5) I created a separate App Pool for my HIS Virtual directory and have it
running under the same admin account used in step 4. It is in the HIS
Administrators group (tried just the runtime group as well). Still same
error.

Any other suggestions? LOL :-)

David




"Neil Pike" wrote:

David - WIP's not my thing, but when someone else had the same problem
last
year, Rob Beardsworth (MS) who does know WIP(!), posted the below.

-----------

the schema is generated on the fly by the remoting infrastructure, you
can't find it anywhere :-). There are multiple possibilities here, most
of
which are security related. Are you running IIS5 or IIS6? Does your
Virtual
Directory allow anonymous access? Does the web.config file in the
Virtual
Directory contain the line: <identity impersonate="true" />? Do you
have
SPS installed (if so there is a Global web.config line containing that
impersonate=true)? If you allow anonymous access and there is an
impersonate=true somewhere, things are running under IUSR, and this
will
probably fail, try adding the line <identity impersonate="false" /> to
the
web.config of the virtual directory you are using, or remove the allow
anonymous access for this directory. Is the process aspnet_wp.exe or
w3wp.exe (IIS5 vs IIS6) running under an account that is a member of
the
HIS Runtime group?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP




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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

Does your virtual directory allow all sorts of things (yes, I know this
will not be the case in the normal world, but we are trying to get oit
working) : Execute Permissions : Scripts & Executables (when I create my
virtual directories for testing, I click ever check box in the known
universe)?

And YES, we do have Windows 2003 SP1 running HIS 2004 :-)

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

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Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
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Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:36:02 +0100
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
From: Neil Pike <neilpike@compuserve.com>

David,

If it was me I'd be trying the config on each of Windows 2003 RTM and
Windows
2000 SP4. I've no idea what's causing the issue you're seeing, but I've
seen
plenty of weird "errors" caused by both Windows 2003 (vs Windows 2000) and
Windows 2003 SP1 (vs Windows 2003).

I'd also try, probably before the above (unless you have spare servers
already
running the above), running regmon and filemon against the his and iis
processes
when you get the error message to see if access to some file and/or reg
key/class is being denied, or not being found, just before the error is
raised.
It can sometimes be like looking for a needle in a haystack, but it's
worked for
me many times.

Quote:
So I guess my question is, does anyone have this running on Windows
Server
2003 SP1? I'm trying to evaluate the functionality of HIS 2004, and if I
can't even get it running, it's really going to get some bad marks... LOL

Thanks!
David

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Grasping at straws here: Is the asp.net that is enabled the right one?
:-)
If you go to windows\microsoft.net\framework you should have a
directory
v1.1.4322, could you go to this directory, run:

aspnet_regiis.exe -ua

followed by

aspnet_regiis.exe -i

You might have to go back to the IIS snapin and reenable ASP.NET (not
sure).

Otherwise, turn on Fusion logging (really grasping here) to see if some
Assembly cannot be loaded.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
Thread-Topic: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:06:01 -0700
Lines: 83

Oh, and yes, ASP is installed / enabled on this server...

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Yeah, here I am! :-) Unfortunately most of the answers are bad news.
However: have you looked in your Security Event Log for entries of
the
type
"couldn't log in as type 4" ? If the account you specified does not
have
the local security policy needed, you will get such an event. I never
know
which one it is, I tend to add all of the "log in as" rights to the
account
I am using! When you open IIS6, looking at the bottom of the snap-in,
you
see "Web Service Extensions" and when you click on it on the right
you
should see "Asp .Net v..bla enabled". If it isn't make it so.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "=?Utf-8?B?ZGF2aWRAY2F0bm9zcGFtLmNvbQ==?=" <david@catnospam.com
References: <2A3701C2-5B54-4E90-B1F2-F99F52176D42@microsoft.com
VA.00006319.08bf6f18@compuserve.com
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:17:03 -0700

Hi Neil,

Just in case Rob (or anyone else with WIP experience) is reading
this,
I'll
answer all of the questions that you posted...

1) I'm running IIS 6 (Only option on Windows Server 2003)
2) Yes, my virtual directory allowed anonymous access when I started.
3) I searched the entire HD and didn't see any "global" web.config
files
that would overide my local one. The Machine.config has identity
impersonate=false. Just for kicks I tried adding that statement into
the
Web.config for my HIS virtual directory. Same error
4) I tried removing anonymous access to the virtual directory and put
in
a
user name / pwd that had admin access when prompted in HIS 2004.
Still
no
luck. (Same Error)
5) I created a separate App Pool for my HIS Virtual directory and
have it
running under the same admin account used in step 4. It is in the
HIS
Administrators group (tried just the runtime group as well). Still
same
error.

Any other suggestions? LOL :-)

David




"Neil Pike" wrote:

David - WIP's not my thing, but when someone else had the same
problem
last
year, Rob Beardsworth (MS) who does know WIP(!), posted the below.

-----------

the schema is generated on the fly by the remoting infrastructure,
you
can't find it anywhere :-). There are multiple possibilities here,
most
of
which are security related. Are you running IIS5 or IIS6? Does your
Virtual
Directory allow anonymous access? Does the web.config file in the
Virtual
Directory contain the line: <identity impersonate="true" />? Do you
have
SPS installed (if so there is a Global web.config line containing
that
impersonate=true)? If you allow anonymous access and there is an
impersonate=true somewhere, things are running under IUSR, and this
will
probably fail, try adding the line <identity impersonate="false" /
to
the
web.config of the virtual directory you are using, or remove the
allow
anonymous access for this directory. Is the process aspnet_wp.exe
or
w3wp.exe (IIS5 vs IIS6) running under an account that is a member
of
the
HIS Runtime group?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP







Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

Ok, I appear to have found the problem.

After scratching my head for the past 4 days, I started to think, "What
would cause this to NOT connect...?" Well, we are behind a proxy server here
at my company, and as this is a server, it had not been configured for
browsing the internet. I configured the proxy information in Internet
Explorer to use our automatic proxy configuration, and it now works. Ugh.
Now to go and "undo" all the other test stuff to see if it will run "out of
box" without any tweaking...

Thanks for the help!
David

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Quote:
Does your virtual directory allow all sorts of things (yes, I know this
will not be the case in the normal world, but we are trying to get oit
working) : Execute Permissions : Scripts & Executables (when I create my
virtual directories for testing, I click ever check box in the known
universe)?

And YES, we do have Windows 2003 SP1 running HIS 2004 :-)

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:36:02 +0100
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
From: Neil Pike <neilpike@compuserve.com

David,

If it was me I'd be trying the config on each of Windows 2003 RTM and
Windows
2000 SP4. I've no idea what's causing the issue you're seeing, but I've
seen
plenty of weird "errors" caused by both Windows 2003 (vs Windows 2000) and
Windows 2003 SP1 (vs Windows 2003).

I'd also try, probably before the above (unless you have spare servers
already
running the above), running regmon and filemon against the his and iis
processes
when you get the error message to see if access to some file and/or reg
key/class is being denied, or not being found, just before the error is
raised.
It can sometimes be like looking for a needle in a haystack, but it's
worked for
me many times.

So I guess my question is, does anyone have this running on Windows
Server
2003 SP1? I'm trying to evaluate the functionality of HIS 2004, and if I
can't even get it running, it's really going to get some bad marks... LOL

Thanks!
David

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Grasping at straws here: Is the asp.net that is enabled the right one?
:-)
If you go to windows\microsoft.net\framework you should have a
directory
v1.1.4322, could you go to this directory, run:

aspnet_regiis.exe -ua

followed by

aspnet_regiis.exe -i

You might have to go back to the IIS snapin and reenable ASP.NET (not
sure).

Otherwise, turn on Fusion logging (really grasping here) to see if some
Assembly cannot be loaded.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
Thread-Topic: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:06:01 -0700
Lines: 83

Oh, and yes, ASP is installed / enabled on this server...

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Yeah, here I am! :-) Unfortunately most of the answers are bad news.
However: have you looked in your Security Event Log for entries of
the
type
"couldn't log in as type 4" ? If the account you specified does not
have
the local security policy needed, you will get such an event. I never
know
which one it is, I tend to add all of the "log in as" rights to the
account
I am using! When you open IIS6, looking at the bottom of the snap-in,
you
see "Web Service Extensions" and when you click on it on the right
you
should see "Asp .Net v..bla enabled". If it isn't make it so.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
From: "=?Utf-8?B?ZGF2aWRAY2F0bm9zcGFtLmNvbQ==?=" <david@catnospam.com
References: <2A3701C2-5B54-4E90-B1F2-F99F52176D42@microsoft.com
VA.00006319.08bf6f18@compuserve.com
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:17:03 -0700

Hi Neil,

Just in case Rob (or anyone else with WIP experience) is reading
this,
I'll
answer all of the questions that you posted...

1) I'm running IIS 6 (Only option on Windows Server 2003)
2) Yes, my virtual directory allowed anonymous access when I started.
3) I searched the entire HD and didn't see any "global" web.config
files
that would overide my local one. The Machine.config has identity
impersonate=false. Just for kicks I tried adding that statement into
the
Web.config for my HIS virtual directory. Same error
4) I tried removing anonymous access to the virtual directory and put
in
a
user name / pwd that had admin access when prompted in HIS 2004.
Still
no
luck. (Same Error)
5) I created a separate App Pool for my HIS Virtual directory and
have it
running under the same admin account used in step 4. It is in the
HIS
Administrators group (tried just the runtime group as well). Still
same
error.

Any other suggestions? LOL :-)

David




"Neil Pike" wrote:

David - WIP's not my thing, but when someone else had the same
problem
last
year, Rob Beardsworth (MS) who does know WIP(!), posted the below.

-----------

the schema is generated on the fly by the remoting infrastructure,
you
can't find it anywhere :-). There are multiple possibilities here,
most
of
which are security related. Are you running IIS5 or IIS6? Does your
Virtual
Directory allow anonymous access? Does the web.config file in the
Virtual
Directory contain the line: <identity impersonate="true" />? Do you
have
SPS installed (if so there is a Global web.config line containing
that
impersonate=true)? If you allow anonymous access and there is an
impersonate=true somewhere, things are running under IUSR, and this
will
probably fail, try adding the line <identity impersonate="false" /
to
the
web.config of the virtual directory you are using, or remove the
allow
anonymous access for this directory. Is the process aspnet_wp.exe
or
w3wp.exe (IIS5 vs IIS6) running under an account that is a member
of
the
HIS Runtime group?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP







Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP


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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

Now that is weird. I wonder what it was trying to connect to/resolve?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 Reply with quote

The name of the machine. When the mmc-snap in manages a WIP .NET assembly,
it uses soapsuds to generate a remoting proxy, that probably uses some http
stuff which uses the same settings as internet explorer down in its guts.
The url that is passed to soapsuds is (usually)
http://machinename:80/virtualdirectory/assem.rem?wsdl
(with the port changing for https). The machine name is used (rather than
localhost) if there is no www.foo.bar.com available for this virtual
directory.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:41:39 +0100
Subject: Re: HIS 2004 on Windows Server 2003 SP1
From: Neil Pike <neilpike@compuserve.com>
Reply-To: neilpike@compuserve.com

Now that is weird. I wonder what it was trying to connect to/resolve?

Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
Microsoft SNA/HIS MVP
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