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Sébastien WILLEMIJNS
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: DNS and authoritative answer Reply with quote

hello,

my problem is a general problem


i've find for win98se "nslookup.exe" from old BINDNT port
it works great exept for my domain name, i cannot query authoritative
answer for willemijns.com (hosted by zoneedit) but i can for
google.com grin !


*************** nslookup -q=MX willemijns.com 207.234.248.200
Authoritative answers can be found from:
(root) nameserver = A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET

stderr indicate me
*** Can't find server name for address 207.234.248.200: No information
*** Default servers are not available


- With "nslookup.exe" WinXP, i can see good result after this 2 lines
information
- In BINDNT port, it stops after displaying this 2 lines information

webtools give me good result
http://www.analogx.com/cgi-bin/cgidig.exe?DNS=ns1.zoneedit.com&Query=willemijns.com&Type=15&Submit=Submit
http://centralops.net/co/NsLookup.vbs.asp?query=willemijns.com&server=ns1.zoneedit.com&type=255&class=1&port=53&timeout=5000&go=Submit

.........so my question is how to bypass this famous
"Can't find server name for address 207.234.248.200: No information" ?
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Andrew Hodgson
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS and authoritative answer Reply with quote

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 10:54:49 +0100, Sébastien WILLEMIJNS
<sebastien@willemijns.com> wrote:

Quote:
hello,

my problem is a general problem


i've find for win98se "nslookup.exe" from old BINDNT port
it works great exept for my domain name, i cannot query authoritative
answer for willemijns.com (hosted by zoneedit) but i can for
google.com grin !

Don't use NSLookup - you get the problems that you have just found!
Instead use a Windows 32 port of Dig (there is one available in later
bind ports). Other than the error is this causing you any other
problems?

BTW are you the same person who compiled the free newsserver tests
some time ago?

Andrew.
--
Andrew Hodgson in Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK.
My Email: use <andrew at hodgsonfamily dot org>.
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Sébastien WILLEMIJNS
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS and authoritative answer Reply with quote

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:28:45 +0000, Andrew Hodgson <me3@privacy.net>
wrote:

Quote:
Don't use NSLookup - you get the problems that you have just found!
Instead use a Windows 32 port of Dig (there is one available in later
bind ports). Other than the error is this causing you any other
problems?

yes, i have found this info on google... it was really stupid...

Quote:
BTW are you the same person who compiled the free newsserver tests
some time ago?

yes but why ? please answer me... i think to something grin !
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Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: DNS and authoritative answer Reply with quote

In news:dqsct0hch0rqm1kt9f7dbqiin4enmlhoat@4ax.com,
Sébastien WILLEMIJNS <sebastien@willemijns.com> commented
Then Kevin replied below:
Quote:
hello,

my problem is a general problem


i've find for win98se "nslookup.exe" from old BINDNT port
it works great exept for my domain name, i cannot query
authoritative
answer for willemijns.com (hosted by zoneedit) but i can
for
google.com grin !


*************** nslookup -q=MX willemijns.com
207.234.248.200
Authoritative answers can be found from:
(root) nameserver = A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root) nameserver = M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET

stderr indicate me
*** Can't find server name for address 207.234.248.200:
No information
*** Default servers are not available


- With "nslookup.exe" WinXP, i can see good result after
this 2 lines
information
- In BINDNT port, it stops after displaying this 2 lines
information

webtools give me good result

http://www.analogx.com/cgi-bin/cgidig.exe?DNS=ns1.zoneedit.com&Query=willemijns.com&Type=15&Submit=Submit

http://centralops.net/co/NsLookup.vbs.asp?query=willemijns.com&server=ns1.zoneedit.com&type=255&class=1&port=53&timeout=5000&go=Submit

........so my question is how to bypass this famous
"Can't find server name for address 207.234.248.200: No
information" ?

You can ignore the "can't find server name for address 207.234.248.200" This
is nslookup trying to perform a reverse lookup for the IP address of the DNS
server.
The reason why the server you are asking cannot find the PTR is because the
server you are asking (207.234.248.200) to find the PTR is a non-recusive
DNS and can only answer with records it owns or with a referral to the Root
servers if it doesn't own the record. It could answer with the MX record,
because it owns it, but not the PTR record because the PTR is owned by
ns1.primarydns.com. and ns2.primarydns.com hence you get a referral to the
root for the PTR. This is just one of nslookup's bugs showing itself.

Nslookup is not the best tool for doing DNS lookups, the only reason I would
tell someone to use nslookup is because it is included with versions of
Windows NT and does not have to be downloaded or installed. A much better
tool IMO, is Netdig by William Stacey available from www.mvptools.com, it
only requires .NET Framework installed, if ran from a local drive.


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Andrew Hodgson
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: DNS and authoritative answer Reply with quote

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:46:14 +0100, Sébastien WILLEMIJNS
<sebastien@willemijns.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:28:45 +0000, Andrew Hodgson <me3@privacy.net
wrote:

Don't use NSLookup - you get the problems that you have just found!
Instead use a Windows 32 port of Dig (there is one available in later
bind ports). Other than the error is this causing you any other
problems?

yes, i have found this info on google... it was really stupid...

As has been confirmed by Kevin, it is just a silly error from
NSLookup.
Quote:

BTW are you the same person who compiled the free newsserver tests
some time ago?

yes but why ? please answer me... i think to something grin !

I just recognised the name!

Andrew.
--
Andrew Hodgson in Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK.
My Email: use <andrew at hodgsonfamily dot org>.
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Sébastien WILLEMIJNS
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: DNS and authoritative answer Reply with quote

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 15:59:06 -0600, "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]"
<admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote:

Quote:
Nslookup is not the best tool for doing DNS lookups, the only reason I would
tell someone to use nslookup is because it is included with versions of
Windows NT and does not have to be downloaded or installed. A much better
tool IMO, is Netdig by William Stacey available from www.mvptools.com, it
only requires .NET Framework installed, if ran from a local drive.

yes, i have now the latest win98se compatible NTBINDpack (9.2.2) and
it works well but it requieres a lot of big DLL (libeay32.dll
libdns.dll and more and more) to works...
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Sébastien WILLEMIJNS
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS and authoritative answer Reply with quote

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 15:59:06 -0600, "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]"
<admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote:

Quote:
The reason why the server you are asking cannot find the PTR is because the
server you are asking (207.234.248.200) to find the PTR is a non-recusive
DNS and can only answer with records it owns or with a referral to the Root
servers if it doesn't own the record. It could answer with the MX record,
because it owns it, but not the PTR record because the PTR is owned by
ns1.primarydns.com. and ns2.primarydns.com hence you get a referral to the
root for the PTR. This is just one of nslookup's bugs showing itself.

thanks of this answer but i'm very surprising this trouble was
resolved only in BIND 9.1 (since 2003)
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