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Jimmy Chan ++
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:32 am    Post subject: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I want to build up a e-commerce, so choose osCommerce.com, but we have host
the server from myself, and I am new in Windows's POP + SMTP...

and the user much like this:
kei@w2k3test.com
kei@superkeishopping2.com
and so on .... in the multi domain

We only one IP address, and have multi domain name, like w2k3test.com,
superkeishopping2.com, I want to using above domain name to build a SMTP and
POP server under W2K3 standard edition, but .. I readed the osCommerce
document, the SMTP need let it not using the password and username to send
e-mail to the customer, it is mean that I need let SMTP filter the IP (Which
host the osCommerce can using the SMTP server smtp.superkeishopping2.com for
send mail, but other user using the same SMTP to send e-mail much need the
user name and the password)

Here are the setting on my DNS, please refer go to
http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/dns_zone002.JPG
http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/maindns_zone001.JPG

Above is our private Server test domain inside the LAN, and this setting are
right.

Later how to using the "Configure POP3 Service" Wizard to setting the setup
depoly?

Like the picture show here are the right setting for the POP3 and SMTP
Service?

http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/setup001.JPG

thx


--
Jimmy Chan
http://www.wusogorphoto.net
A great photography web site

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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

In news:CEAE4B3D-221C-41E0-A30F-B062A95B6958@microsoft.com,
Jimmy Chan ++ <JimmyChan@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
Quote:
Hi all,

I want to build up a e-commerce, so choose osCommerce.com, but we
have host the server from myself, and I am new in Windows's POP +
SMTP...

and the user much like this:
kei@w2k3test.com
kei@superkeishopping2.com
and so on .... in the multi domain

We only one IP address, and have multi domain name, like w2k3test.com,
superkeishopping2.com, I want to using above domain name to build a
SMTP and POP server under W2K3 standard edition, but .. I readed the
osCommerce document, the SMTP need let it not using the password and
username to send e-mail to the customer, it is mean that I need let
SMTP filter the IP (Which host the osCommerce can using the SMTP
server smtp.superkeishopping2.com for send mail, but other user using
the same SMTP to send e-mail much need the user name and the password)

Here are the setting on my DNS, please refer go to
http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/dns_zone002.JPG
http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/maindns_zone001.JPG

Above is our private Server test domain inside the LAN, and this
setting are right.

Later how to using the "Configure POP3 Service" Wizard to setting the
setup depoly?

Like the picture show here are the right setting for the POP3 and SMTP
Service?

http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/setup001.JPG

thx

The MX records are incorrect. To create the MX record properly:

1. Choose which domain name will host the mail server name. In your case,
you may want to choose w2ktest.com.
2. Under w2ktest.com, create a host record called 'smtp', anf give it
192.18.0.51.
3. For each domain name, Create an MX record, but leave the top section
blank, which is the hostname. Then in the bottom section, for the fully
qualified hostname, type in smtp.w2ktest.com.

As for POP3 services, you must create an instance for each domain name and
associate the users that you want for each domain name. You can check the
Windows 2003 help files for more specific information and a step by step
how-to. You can access that from the POP3 console. Rt-click "POP3 Service",
choose "Help", then choose "How-To".

--
Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroups
so all can benefit.

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees
and confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Windows Server - Directory Services
Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations.
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Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

Ace Fekay [MVP]
<PleaseSubstituteMyActualFirstName&LastNameHere@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
The MX records are incorrect. To create the MX record properly:

1. Choose which domain name will host the mail server name. In your
case, you may want to choose w2ktest.com.
2. Under w2ktest.com, create a host record called 'smtp', anf give it
192.18.0.51.
3. For each domain name, Create an MX record, but leave the top
section blank, which is the hostname. Then in the bottom section, for
the fully qualified hostname, type in smtp.w2ktest.com.

As for POP3 services, you must create an instance for each domain
name and associate the users that you want for each domain name. You
can check the Windows 2003 help files for more specific information
and a step by step how-to. You can access that from the POP3 console.
Rt-click "POP3 Service", choose "Help", then choose "How-To".

In addition Ace, it is a mistake using an alias for the mail server host
name.
I know you gave him the correct instructions of having him create a new host
named smtp, I just wanted to clarify that.

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Kevin D4 Dad Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

In news:OHgNV3DsFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
Quote:
In addition Ace, it is a mistake using an alias for the mail server
host name.
I know you gave him the correct instructions of having him create a
new host named smtp, I just wanted to clarify that.

Thanks Kevin, sometimes I get forgetful...
:-)
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

In news:OHgNV3DsFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
Quote:
In addition Ace, it is a mistake using an alias for the mail server
host name.
I know you gave him the correct instructions of having him create a
new host named smtp, I just wanted to clarify that.

Ohoh, forgot something else. He will need to setup a PTR with his ISP for
his mail server address smtp.wktest.com (or whatever the actual name and IP
on the Internet will be).

Ace
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Jimmy Chan ++
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

Thx Ave,

But, I only one IP, and this IP is give to www, why smtp not using the CNAME
to post to the www.w2k3test.com??

If I follow your suggestion, than now one IP have two host name

www A 192.168.0.51
smtp A 192.168.0.51

--
Jimmy Chan
http://www.wusogorphoto.net
A great photography web site


"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:

Quote:
In news:CEAE4B3D-221C-41E0-A30F-B062A95B6958@microsoft.com,
Jimmy Chan ++ <JimmyChan@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
Hi all,

I want to build up a e-commerce, so choose osCommerce.com, but we
have host the server from myself, and I am new in Windows's POP +
SMTP...

and the user much like this:
kei@w2k3test.com
kei@superkeishopping2.com
and so on .... in the multi domain

We only one IP address, and have multi domain name, like w2k3test.com,
superkeishopping2.com, I want to using above domain name to build a
SMTP and POP server under W2K3 standard edition, but .. I readed the
osCommerce document, the SMTP need let it not using the password and
username to send e-mail to the customer, it is mean that I need let
SMTP filter the IP (Which host the osCommerce can using the SMTP
server smtp.superkeishopping2.com for send mail, but other user using
the same SMTP to send e-mail much need the user name and the password)

Here are the setting on my DNS, please refer go to
http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/dns_zone002.JPG
http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/maindns_zone001.JPG

Above is our private Server test domain inside the LAN, and this
setting are right.

Later how to using the "Configure POP3 Service" Wizard to setting the
setup depoly?

Like the picture show here are the right setting for the POP3 and SMTP
Service?

http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/setup001.JPG

thx

The MX records are incorrect. To create the MX record properly:

1. Choose which domain name will host the mail server name. In your case,
you may want to choose w2ktest.com.
2. Under w2ktest.com, create a host record called 'smtp', anf give it
192.18.0.51.
3. For each domain name, Create an MX record, but leave the top section
blank, which is the hostname. Then in the bottom section, for the fully
qualified hostname, type in smtp.w2ktest.com.

As for POP3 services, you must create an instance for each domain name and
associate the users that you want for each domain name. You can check the
Windows 2003 help files for more specific information and a step by step
how-to. You can access that from the POP3 console. Rt-click "POP3 Service",
choose "Help", then choose "How-To".

--
Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroups
so all can benefit.

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees
and confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Windows Server - Directory Services
Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations.
=================================






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Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

Jimmy Chan ++ <JimmyChan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Quote:
Thx Ave,

But, I only one IP, and this IP is give to www, why smtp not using
the CNAME to post to the www.w2k3test.com??

If I follow your suggestion, than now one IP have two host name

www A 192.168.0.51
smtp A 192.168.0.51

You cannot use a CName in an MX record, some mail server will not deliver to
or accept mail from an SMTP server using a Cname in the MX record.
Multiple A records giving the same IP is OK, there is one more catch, the A
record should match the PTR record for the IP. That is to say, if you do a
reverse lookup on you IP FROM the internet, and the PTR says someing like
this 51.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.w2k3test.com. Your MX record
should use www.w2k3test.com as the SMTP server and you need an A record for
the name.
Keep in mind, this PTR lookup must be from an internet DNS because it is not
likely your DNS server is authoritative for the reverse lookup on the
internet, unless your ISP has delegated it to you.


--
Best regards,
Kevin D4 Dad Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
Hope This Helps
===================================
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"
via your newsreader so that others may learn and
benefit from your issue, to respond directly to
me remove the nospam. from my email address.
===================================
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===================================
Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix:
It will strip signature out and more
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
===================================
Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders
with OEBackup:
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
===================================
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
Guest





Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

In news:8C921CA4-A482-4D62-B721-922A447572C3@microsoft.com,
Jimmy Chan ++ <JimmyChan@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
Quote:
Thx Ave,

But, I only one IP, and this IP is give to www, why smtp not using
the CNAME to post to the www.w2k3test.com??

If I follow your suggestion, than now one IP have two host name

www A 192.168.0.51
smtp A 192.168.0.51

As Kevin said, CNAMEs can't be used with MX records. Follow what I
suggested, especially due to the PTR requirements for mail these days.

Ace
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Jimmy Chan ++
Guest





Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

Hi Ace and Kevin D.

thx for reply, here are my new setting on my Main DNS zone setting. Sorry I
still not too understand the MX and POP relevent. Maybe now I still setting
wrong, better have a picture for me to reference.

This screen capture are now I correction the setting from Ace's suggestion,
but the pop.... how to setting it?? Do pop also need a MX record??

All POP3 and SMTP is in same server called www.w2k3test.com (192.168.0.51)

http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/new001.jpg
http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/new002.jpg


--
Jimmy Chan
http://www.wusogorphoto.net
A great photography web site


"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:

Quote:
In news:8C921CA4-A482-4D62-B721-922A447572C3@microsoft.com,
Jimmy Chan ++ <JimmyChan@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
Thx Ave,

But, I only one IP, and this IP is give to www, why smtp not using
the CNAME to post to the www.w2k3test.com??

If I follow your suggestion, than now one IP have two host name

www A 192.168.0.51
smtp A 192.168.0.51

As Kevin said, CNAMEs can't be used with MX records. Follow what I
suggested, especially due to the PTR requirements for mail these days.

Ace


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Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [
Guest





Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

Jimmy Chan ++ <JimmyChan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi Ace and Kevin D.

thx for reply, here are my new setting on my Main DNS zone setting.
Sorry I still not too understand the MX and POP relevent. Maybe now I
still setting wrong, better have a picture for me to reference.

This screen capture are now I correction the setting from Ace's
suggestion, but the pop.... how to setting it?? Do pop also need a MX
record??

POP servers don't need an MX record, POP server only need the POP3 client
configured to use the POP3 name.

Quote:

All POP3 and SMTP is in same server called www.w2k3test.com
(192.168.0.51)

http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/new001.jpg
http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/new002.jpg

Just to add, you don't need the second PTR pointing to www.win2k3test.com.
And even though you have not created the NS records for the NS1 record you
have, if you did it won't work either. Just like MX records, NS records
cannot use CNames either.



--
Best regards,
Kevin D4 Dad Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
Hope This Helps
===================================
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"
via your newsreader so that others may learn and
benefit from your issue, to respond directly to
me remove the nospam. from my email address.
===================================
http://www.lonestaramerica.com/
===================================
Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix:
It will strip signature out and more
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
===================================
Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders
with OEBackup:
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
===================================
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Jimmy Chan ++
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

Oh yes, here are the zone superkeishopping2.com setting on the DNS

http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/new003.jpg

But I try nslookup smtp.superkeishopping2.com, it failed, but if I enter
"nslookup superkeishopping2.com" it have the response ...

What is wrong on this setting for only one IP to host multi SMTP and POP
service under Windows 2003?

Only give me a work example, I can follow it to do so

thx


--
Jimmy Chan
http://www.wusogorphoto.net
A great photography web site


"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:

Quote:
In news:8C921CA4-A482-4D62-B721-922A447572C3@microsoft.com,
Jimmy Chan ++ <JimmyChan@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
Thx Ave,

But, I only one IP, and this IP is give to www, why smtp not using
the CNAME to post to the www.w2k3test.com??

If I follow your suggestion, than now one IP have two host name

www A 192.168.0.51
smtp A 192.168.0.51

As Kevin said, CNAMEs can't be used with MX records. Follow what I
suggested, especially due to the PTR requirements for mail these days.

Ace


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Ace Fekay [MVP]
Guest





Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

In news:25519E79-AA20-4E96-BDA3-D1AA3C754417@microsoft.com,
Jimmy Chan ++ <JimmyChan@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
Quote:
Hi Ace and Kevin D.

thx for reply, here are my new setting on my Main DNS zone setting.
Sorry I still not too understand the MX and POP relevent. Maybe now I
still setting wrong, better have a picture for me to reference.

This screen capture are now I correction the setting from Ace's
suggestion, but the pop.... how to setting it?? Do pop also need a MX
record??

All POP3 and SMTP is in same server called www.w2k3test.com
(192.168.0.51)

As Kevin said, you do not need a POP3 record name. Remember, POP3 is a mail
retrieval protocol. Just tell your clients to use smpt.w2k3test.com to
retreive their mail using OEx or their favorite POP3 client, whatever that
is.

As for ns1 being a CNAME, that cannot be set as a CNAME. If you create a
nameserver reference for any domain, it should be an A record. If some other
nameserver on someother domain name is hosting your DNS records, there is no
need to create an nameserver record anyway since the nameserver does not
exist under w2k3test.com.

As also Kevin mentioned, If you want to properly create a nameserver record
for w2k3test.com, simply create an 'ns1' A (host) record, and give it
192.168.0.51. And remove that www PTR entry.

Ace
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Do my DNS MX setting is all right? Reply with quote

In news:C8327BCB-EB14-402F-B627-A7E1F9F7312E@microsoft.com,
Jimmy Chan ++ <JimmyChan@discussions.microsoft.com> made this post, which I
then commented about below:
Quote:
Oh yes, here are the zone superkeishopping2.com setting on the DNS

http://test.wusogorphoto.net/kei/new003.jpg

But I try nslookup smtp.superkeishopping2.com, it failed, but if I
enter "nslookup superkeishopping2.com" it have the response ...

That's because you did not create a record called 'smtp' under the
superkeishopping2.com zone.


Quote:
What is wrong on this setting for only one IP to host multi SMTP and
POP service under Windows 2003?

Only give me a work example, I can follow it to do so

thx

POP3 is a mail retrieval protocol that users or applications use to retrieve
email from a server. SMTP is a mail sending protocol. The MX record under a
zone tells ALL THE OTHER MAIL SERVERS IN THE WORLD 'who' is the mail server
that will receive mail for YOUR domain. In the superkeishopping2.com zone,
you created an MX record that points to smtp.w2k3test.com, which is fine.
You really DO NOT need an smtp' record under the superkeishopping2.com zone
because smtp.w2k3test.com is the MS record for smtp.w2k3test.com.

Make sense?

Ace
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