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David@myoffice.co
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:01 am Post subject:
A DHCP setting question. |
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Dear all,
I have a question about DHCP server option '033 static route option'.
How can I add a static route in a class ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) instead a single IP?
Details:
1. My ISP provided a router to my company for internet connection. We can't access the router to do anything because no one in my
company has the admin password.
2. One of our client required us to logon their internet(???) application for data input. They provide a router and line to connect
to their server.
3. My client IP range ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) is different to my company( 192.168.0.0/24 )
4. All workstations of my company is running Windows XP pro and the server is Windows 2000 server
restrictions & Problems:
1. I can't add a static route in existing router, and my ISP rejected our required
2. My client doesn't allow us to use the same IP range to their company
3. I can't assign all user to 'Network Configuration Operators' to all computers because they will change computer every week.
4. When I add a value in the DHCP server option 033, the result of route print is:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
10.240.0.0 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.189 192.168.0.34 1
5. I can't logon client server for the netmask error( my client told me), the netmask should be 255.255.255.0
Thanks all.
Regards,
David |
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Phillip Windell
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject:
Re: A DHCP setting question. |
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"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have a question about DHCP server option '033 static route option'.
How can I add a static route in a class ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) instead a single
IP?
Details:
1. My ISP provided a router to my company for internet connection. We
can't access the router to do anything because no one in my
company has the admin password.
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Never make the "Internet sharing device" the Default Gateway of the network
unless it is a simple single subnet system that never routes anywhere else.
Make the LAN Router the Default Gateway of all hosts. If you have more than
one subnet in your system then you must have *something* serving as a LAN
Router between them. Make the LAN Router's Default Gateway the "Internet
sharing device". All static routes for "other" destinations would be done
at the LAN Router which is the device that "controls" the LAN's routing
scheme. That is what LAN Routers were designed for,...that is what they "do
for a living" :-)
--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com |
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Doug Sherman [MVP]
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject:
Re: A DHCP setting question. |
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Try:
1. Instead of a network IP, use the exact IP of the desination server - eg
10.240.0.1., or
2. Use a login script:
route add 10.240.0.0 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.189
Doug Sherman
MCSE Win2k/NT4.0, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:eo$cNPG%23EHA.3856@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Dear all,
I have a question about DHCP server option '033 static route option'.
How can I add a static route in a class ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) instead a single
IP?
Details:
1. My ISP provided a router to my company for internet connection. We
can't access the router to do anything because no one in my
company has the admin password.
2. One of our client required us to logon their internet(???) application
for data input. They provide a router and line to connect
to their server.
3. My client IP range ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) is different to my company(
192.168.0.0/24 )
4. All workstations of my company is running Windows XP pro and the server
is Windows 2000 server
restrictions & Problems:
1. I can't add a static route in existing router, and my ISP rejected our
required
2. My client doesn't allow us to use the same IP range to their company
3. I can't assign all user to 'Network Configuration Operators' to all
computers because they will change computer every week.
4. When I add a value in the DHCP server option 033, the result of route
print is:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway
Interface Metric
10.240.0.0 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.189
192.168.0.34 1
5. I can't logon client server for the netmask error( my client told me),
the netmask should be 255.255.255.0
Thanks all.
Regards,
David
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David@myoffice.co
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject:
Re: A DHCP setting question. |
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Thanks for your advise.
However, 'Router' need $ .................... --__--"
"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message news:uLPXyFM%23EHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | "David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:eo$cNPG%23EHA.3856@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
I have a question about DHCP server option '033 static route option'.
How can I add a static route in a class ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) instead a single
IP?
Details:
1. My ISP provided a router to my company for internet connection. We
can't access the router to do anything because no one in my
company has the admin password.
Never make the "Internet sharing device" the Default Gateway of the network
unless it is a simple single subnet system that never routes anywhere else.
Make the LAN Router the Default Gateway of all hosts. If you have more than
one subnet in your system then you must have *something* serving as a LAN
Router between them. Make the LAN Router's Default Gateway the "Internet
sharing device". All static routes for "other" destinations would be done
at the LAN Router which is the device that "controls" the LAN's routing
scheme. That is what LAN Routers were designed for,...that is what they "do
for a living" :-)
--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
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Phillip Windell
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:00 pm Post subject:
Re: A DHCP setting question. |
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"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:e789AcM%23EHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Thanks for your advise.
However, 'Router' need $ .................... --__--"
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If you already have two or more subnets as you indicate,..then you *already*
have something functioning as a LAN Router,...that is the device you would
use as I describe.
For that matter a simple 486 running NT4 Workstation (or linux) can be used
as a LAN Router.
--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com |
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David@myoffice.co
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject:
Re: A DHCP setting question. |
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Thank you for your advise.
However,
1. I can't change our ISP internet device LAN IP ( no password ), so I don't think I can change our subnet. >.< Moreover, my client
requested us to use different IP class ( I don't know why :-( ).
2. "route add" command in login script need the user has the privilege of changing network configuration. Is there any way to let
the command work even though the user doesn't has the privilege?
Regards,
David
"Doug Sherman [MVP]" <dsherman@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:ub357JM%23EHA.2192@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Try:
1. Instead of a network IP, use the exact IP of the desination server - eg
10.240.0.1., or
2. Use a login script:
route add 10.240.0.0 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.189
Doug Sherman
MCSE Win2k/NT4.0, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:eo$cNPG%23EHA.3856@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Dear all,
I have a question about DHCP server option '033 static route option'.
How can I add a static route in a class ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) instead a single
IP?
Details:
1. My ISP provided a router to my company for internet connection. We
can't access the router to do anything because no one in my
company has the admin password.
2. One of our client required us to logon their internet(???) application
for data input. They provide a router and line to connect
to their server.
3. My client IP range ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) is different to my company(
192.168.0.0/24 )
4. All workstations of my company is running Windows XP pro and the server
is Windows 2000 server
restrictions & Problems:
1. I can't add a static route in existing router, and my ISP rejected our
required
2. My client doesn't allow us to use the same IP range to their company
3. I can't assign all user to 'Network Configuration Operators' to all
computers because they will change computer every week.
4. When I add a value in the DHCP server option 033, the result of route
print is:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway
Interface Metric
10.240.0.0 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.189
192.168.0.34 1
5. I can't logon client server for the netmask error( my client told me),
the netmask should be 255.255.255.0
Thanks all.
Regards,
David
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David@myoffice.co
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject:
Re: A DHCP setting question. |
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Um .............. I need to check again.
Thank you very much!
Regards,
David
"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message news:OqCExgM%23EHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | "David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:e789AcM%23EHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Thanks for your advise.
However, 'Router' need $ .................... --__--"
If you already have two or more subnets as you indicate,..then you *already*
have something functioning as a LAN Router,...that is the device you would
use as I describe.
For that matter a simple 486 running NT4 Workstation (or linux) can be used
as a LAN Router.
--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
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Phillip Windell
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:34 pm Post subject:
Re: A DHCP setting question. |
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From your first post:
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2. One of our client required us to logon their internet(???) application
for data input. They provide a router and line to connect to their server.
3. My client IP range ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) is different to my company(
192.168.0.0/24 )
--------------------
Your subnets are 10.240.0.* and 192.168.0.* (Item #3)
The LAN Router would "effectively" be the router mentioned in Item #2
because it constitutes the routing device between the LAN's two subnets.
Make this Router the Default Gateway of all your machines. Make the Default
Gateway of this Router to be the Internet sharing device provided by the
ISP.
However this "client" that provided this router may not want you to do that
which would leave you "screwed" there. If this is the case, and your LAN is
small and has few machines, then you may just have to use individual "static
routes" on each of your individual machines. I don't like it, I think it is
horrible to manage, but it may be all you can do with what you have to work
with.
--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:OgZrQmM%23EHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Um .............. I need to check again.
Thank you very much!
Regards,
David
"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:OqCExgM%23EHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:e789AcM%23EHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Thanks for your advise.
However, 'Router' need $ .................... --__--"
If you already have two or more subnets as you indicate,..then you
*already*
have something functioning as a LAN Router,...that is the device you
would
use as I describe.
For that matter a simple 486 running NT4 Workstation (or linux) can be
used
as a LAN Router.
--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
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David@myoffice.co
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:41 pm Post subject:
Re: A DHCP setting question. |
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Thank you Philip.
Your information is useful to me, and I will talk to my client for your suggestion.
Regards,
David
"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message news:OJ649zM%23EHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | From your first post:
--------------------
2. One of our client required us to logon their internet(???) application
for data input. They provide a router and line to connect to their server.
3. My client IP range ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) is different to my company(
192.168.0.0/24 )
--------------------
Your subnets are 10.240.0.* and 192.168.0.* (Item #3)
The LAN Router would "effectively" be the router mentioned in Item #2
because it constitutes the routing device between the LAN's two subnets.
Make this Router the Default Gateway of all your machines. Make the Default
Gateway of this Router to be the Internet sharing device provided by the
ISP.
However this "client" that provided this router may not want you to do that
which would leave you "screwed" there. If this is the case, and your LAN is
small and has few machines, then you may just have to use individual "static
routes" on each of your individual machines. I don't like it, I think it is
horrible to manage, but it may be all you can do with what you have to work
with.
--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:OgZrQmM%23EHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Um .............. I need to check again.
Thank you very much!
Regards,
David
"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:OqCExgM%23EHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:e789AcM%23EHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Thanks for your advise.
However, 'Router' need $ .................... --__--"
If you already have two or more subnets as you indicate,..then you
*already*
have something functioning as a LAN Router,...that is the device you
would
use as I describe.
For that matter a simple 486 running NT4 Workstation (or linux) can be
used
as a LAN Router.
--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
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Doug Sherman [MVP]
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:58 am Post subject:
Re: A DHCP setting question. |
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You could pump this out as a machine startup script with Group Policy.
Computer Configuration/Windows Settings/Scripts
Doug Sherman
MCSE Win2k/NT4.0, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:u7x2QkM%23EHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Thank you for your advise.
However,
1. I can't change our ISP internet device LAN IP ( no password ), so I
don't think I can change our subnet. >.< Moreover, my client
requested us to use different IP class ( I don't know why :-( ).
2. "route add" command in login script need the user has the privilege of
changing network configuration. Is there any way to let
the command work even though the user doesn't has the privilege?
Regards,
David
"Doug Sherman [MVP]" <dsherman@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ub357JM%23EHA.2192@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Try:
1. Instead of a network IP, use the exact IP of the desination server -
eg
10.240.0.1., or
2. Use a login script:
route add 10.240.0.0 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.189
Doug Sherman
MCSE Win2k/NT4.0, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:eo$cNPG%23EHA.3856@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Dear all,
I have a question about DHCP server option '033 static route option'.
How can I add a static route in a class ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) instead a
single
IP?
Details:
1. My ISP provided a router to my company for internet connection. We
can't access the router to do anything because no one in my
company has the admin password.
2. One of our client required us to logon their internet(???)
application
for data input. They provide a router and line to connect
to their server.
3. My client IP range ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) is different to my company(
192.168.0.0/24 )
4. All workstations of my company is running Windows XP pro and the
server
is Windows 2000 server
restrictions & Problems:
1. I can't add a static route in existing router, and my ISP rejected
our
required
2. My client doesn't allow us to use the same IP range to their company
3. I can't assign all user to 'Network Configuration Operators' to all
computers because they will change computer every week.
4. When I add a value in the DHCP server option 033, the result of
route
print is:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway
Interface Metric
10.240.0.0 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.189
192.168.0.34 1
5. I can't logon client server for the netmask error( my client told
me),
the netmask should be 255.255.255.0
Thanks all.
Regards,
David
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David@myoffice.co
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:05 am Post subject:
Re: A DHCP setting question. |
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Dear Doug,
Mission completed! Your solution is working perfectly.
Thank you very much! Cheer!
Regards,
David Fung
"Doug Sherman [MVP]" <dsherman@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:%23UitvKQ%23EHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | You could pump this out as a machine startup script with Group Policy.
Computer Configuration/Windows Settings/Scripts
Doug Sherman
MCSE Win2k/NT4.0, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:u7x2QkM%23EHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Thank you for your advise.
However,
1. I can't change our ISP internet device LAN IP ( no password ), so I
don't think I can change our subnet. >.< Moreover, my client
requested us to use different IP class ( I don't know why :-( ).
2. "route add" command in login script need the user has the privilege of
changing network configuration. Is there any way to let
the command work even though the user doesn't has the privilege?
Regards,
David
"Doug Sherman [MVP]" <dsherman@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ub357JM%23EHA.2192@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Try:
1. Instead of a network IP, use the exact IP of the desination server -
eg
10.240.0.1., or
2. Use a login script:
route add 10.240.0.0 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.189
Doug Sherman
MCSE Win2k/NT4.0, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:eo$cNPG%23EHA.3856@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Dear all,
I have a question about DHCP server option '033 static route option'.
How can I add a static route in a class ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) instead a
single
IP?
Details:
1. My ISP provided a router to my company for internet connection. We
can't access the router to do anything because no one in my
company has the admin password.
2. One of our client required us to logon their internet(???)
application
for data input. They provide a router and line to connect
to their server.
3. My client IP range ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) is different to my company(
192.168.0.0/24 )
4. All workstations of my company is running Windows XP pro and the
server
is Windows 2000 server
restrictions & Problems:
1. I can't add a static route in existing router, and my ISP rejected
our
required
2. My client doesn't allow us to use the same IP range to their company
3. I can't assign all user to 'Network Configuration Operators' to all
computers because they will change computer every week.
4. When I add a value in the DHCP server option 033, the result of
route
print is:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway
Interface Metric
10.240.0.0 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.189
192.168.0.34 1
5. I can't logon client server for the netmask error( my client told
me),
the netmask should be 255.255.255.0
Thanks all.
Regards,
David
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David@myoffice.co
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:06 am Post subject:
Re: A DHCP setting question. |
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Dear Philip,
Thank you for your help!
The case is closed.
Regards,
David
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message news:%23Qfzf3M%23EHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Thank you Philip.
Your information is useful to me, and I will talk to my client for your suggestion.
Regards,
David
"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message news:OJ649zM%23EHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
From your first post:
--------------------
2. One of our client required us to logon their internet(???) application
for data input. They provide a router and line to connect to their server.
3. My client IP range ( 10.240.0.0/24 ) is different to my company(
192.168.0.0/24 )
--------------------
Your subnets are 10.240.0.* and 192.168.0.* (Item #3)
The LAN Router would "effectively" be the router mentioned in Item #2
because it constitutes the routing device between the LAN's two subnets.
Make this Router the Default Gateway of all your machines. Make the Default
Gateway of this Router to be the Internet sharing device provided by the
ISP.
However this "client" that provided this router may not want you to do that
which would leave you "screwed" there. If this is the case, and your LAN is
small and has few machines, then you may just have to use individual "static
routes" on each of your individual machines. I don't like it, I think it is
horrible to manage, but it may be all you can do with what you have to work
with.
--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:OgZrQmM%23EHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Um .............. I need to check again.
Thank you very much!
Regards,
David
"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:OqCExgM%23EHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
"David@myoffice.co" <david@myoffice.co> wrote in message
news:e789AcM%23EHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Thanks for your advise.
However, 'Router' need $ .................... --__--"
If you already have two or more subnets as you indicate,..then you
*already*
have something functioning as a LAN Router,...that is the device you
would
use as I describe.
For that matter a simple 486 running NT4 Workstation (or linux) can be
used
as a LAN Router.
--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
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