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Mark V
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Windows 2000 server what are my options? Reply with quote

I have a Windows 2000 based domain, we are down to only
about 20 pc's so I am thinking of getting a new server with
Win2003 SBS so we can take advantage of Exchange.

Right now all of my clients are mixed, 9x, 2k, and XP some
are running Outlook and some are running Express to our
external mail server.

What is the best way to go about this, can I just load up
SBS 2003 on a new box, and import everything over, or
should I join the new SBS machine to the existing domain,
transfer the roles etc?

My goal would be to have the new server handle everything
but Web, reformat the old server, and use that as a Web
Server only.

Also, with SBS, does each client get a license for Outlook
2003 on their box?

Thanks!

Mark
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Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows 2000 server what are my options? Reply with quote

Quote:
What is the best way to go about this, can I just load up
SBS 2003 on a new box, and import everything over, or
should I join the new SBS machine to the existing domain,
transfer the roles etc?

Both ways are valid, but joining SBS to the existing domain requires some
manual work (dcpromo, transfer all fsmo roles, etc.). Depending on how
complicated is your current setup it might be a good idea to start from
scratch.

Quote:
My goal would be to have the new server handle everything
but Web, reformat the old server, and use that as a Web
Server only.

Sounds good.

Quote:
Also, with SBS, does each client get a license for Outlook
2003 on their box?

Each CAL of SBS allows you to install Outlook 2003.

--
Javier [SBS MVP]
www.msmvps.com/javier
<< SBS ROCKS!!! >>
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Mark V
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows 2000 server what are my options? Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply, you suggested it might be a good idea
to start from scratch, will existing clients have a problem
with joining the same domain twice?

For instance they are already joined to our Win2000 server,
if for instance I want to start from scratch (which would
not be that difficult with only 20 users). I would name the
new SBS server the same as the old, unplug the old and plug
in the SBS2003 server.

What kind of problems will this present? I am assuming I
would be able to go to each workstation, and basically
remove it from the domain, and then join the the new domain
(basically the same as before).

Or will the clients act smoother if I join SBS 2003 to the
existing domain, dcpromo it, and eventutally dcpromo the
current server down to a member server.

Also I seem to remember back in SBS 2000 days you could not
join a SBS server to an existing domain, has this changed
with SBS 2003?

Thanks for the answers on the other questions, sounds good.

Mark


Quote:
-----Original Message-----
What is the best way to go about this, can I just load up
SBS 2003 on a new box, and import everything over, or
should I join the new SBS machine to the existing domain,
transfer the roles etc?

Both ways are valid, but joining SBS to the existing
domain requires some
manual work (dcpromo, transfer all fsmo roles, etc.).
Depending on how
complicated is your current setup it might be a good idea
to start from
scratch.

My goal would be to have the new server handle everything
but Web, reformat the old server, and use that as a Web
Server only.

Sounds good.

Also, with SBS, does each client get a license for Outlook
2003 on their box?

Each CAL of SBS allows you to install Outlook 2003.

--
Javier [SBS MVP]
www.msmvps.com/javier
SBS ROCKS!!!


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Mark V
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows 2000 server what are my options? Reply with quote

One more question, my domain name is the same as our
company domain name.

Right now we host our web page on an external server.

All I had to do was basically add a www zone in DNS so
internal clients can access our external page.

If I go with SBS2003, I can do the same thing right?

Thanks!

Mark


Quote:
-----Original Message-----
What is the best way to go about this, can I just load up
SBS 2003 on a new box, and import everything over, or
should I join the new SBS machine to the existing domain,
transfer the roles etc?

Both ways are valid, but joining SBS to the existing
domain requires some
manual work (dcpromo, transfer all fsmo roles, etc.).
Depending on how
complicated is your current setup it might be a good idea
to start from
scratch.

My goal would be to have the new server handle everything
but Web, reformat the old server, and use that as a Web
Server only.

Sounds good.

Also, with SBS, does each client get a license for Outlook
2003 on their box?

Each CAL of SBS allows you to install Outlook 2003.

--
Javier [SBS MVP]
www.msmvps.com/javier
SBS ROCKS!!!


.
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Frank McCallister SBS MVP
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows 2000 server what are my options? Reply with quote

Hi Mark

With SBS your domain would be domain.local (or .lan if you have MACs) and
your domain.com will be for Exchange and Web. This will make more sense if
you see Install instructions on CD1

For migration you may want to look at SBSmigration.com for pointers.

--
Frank McCallister SBS MVP
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"Mark V" <markv@donotspamme.inv> wrote in message
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Quote:
One more question, my domain name is the same as our
company domain name.

Right now we host our web page on an external server.

All I had to do was basically add a www zone in DNS so
internal clients can access our external page.

If I go with SBS2003, I can do the same thing right?

Thanks!

Mark


-----Original Message-----
What is the best way to go about this, can I just load up
SBS 2003 on a new box, and import everything over, or
should I join the new SBS machine to the existing domain,
transfer the roles etc?

Both ways are valid, but joining SBS to the existing
domain requires some
manual work (dcpromo, transfer all fsmo roles, etc.).
Depending on how
complicated is your current setup it might be a good idea
to start from
scratch.

My goal would be to have the new server handle everything
but Web, reformat the old server, and use that as a Web
Server only.

Sounds good.

Also, with SBS, does each client get a license for Outlook
2003 on their box?

Each CAL of SBS allows you to install Outlook 2003.

--
Javier [SBS MVP]
www.msmvps.com/javier
SBS ROCKS!!!


.
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Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]
Guest





Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows 2000 server what are my options? Reply with quote

Quote:
Thanks for the reply, you suggested it might be a good idea
to start from scratch, will existing clients have a problem
with joining the same domain twice?

Its not really a problem, but you will loose their current profiles. So, you
should back that up and import them back to the new account.

Quote:
For instance they are already joined to our Win2000 server,
if for instance I want to start from scratch (which would
not be that difficult with only 20 users). I would name the
new SBS server the same as the old, unplug the old and plug
in the SBS2003 server.

What kind of problems will this present? I am assuming I
would be able to go to each workstation, and basically
remove it from the domain, and then join the the new domain
(basically the same as before).

You would have to do that (remove it from the domain and add it to the new
domain). However, the SBS wizards might be able to help you transfer the
profiles (but I'm not sure if this works with old domain profiles).

Quote:
Or will the clients act smoother if I join SBS 2003 to the
existing domain, dcpromo it, and eventutally dcpromo the
current server down to a member server.

It would definitely go smoother (since you won't have to rejoin the PCs to
the domain)... but it could get complicated either way.

Quote:
Also I seem to remember back in SBS 2000 days you could not
join a SBS server to an existing domain, has this changed
with SBS 2003?

SBS2k media didn't allow this, but 2k3 allows it. Back in the SBS2k days you
would have to use plain-vanilla windows2k disks.

--
Javier [SBS MVP]
www.msmvps.com/javier
<< SBS ROCKS!!! >>
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Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows 2000 server what are my options? Reply with quote

You can do it in SBS2k3... but if you are starting from scratch I would go
ahead and correct that.

--
Javier [SBS MVP]
www.msmvps.com/javier
<< SBS ROCKS!!! >>

"Mark V" <markv@donotspamme.inv> wrote in message
news:054501c4fd74$e3cc7ec0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
Quote:
One more question, my domain name is the same as our
company domain name.

Right now we host our web page on an external server.

All I had to do was basically add a www zone in DNS so
internal clients can access our external page.

If I go with SBS2003, I can do the same thing right?

Thanks!

Mark


-----Original Message-----
What is the best way to go about this, can I just load up
SBS 2003 on a new box, and import everything over, or
should I join the new SBS machine to the existing domain,
transfer the roles etc?

Both ways are valid, but joining SBS to the existing
domain requires some
manual work (dcpromo, transfer all fsmo roles, etc.).
Depending on how
complicated is your current setup it might be a good idea
to start from
scratch.

My goal would be to have the new server handle everything
but Web, reformat the old server, and use that as a Web
Server only.

Sounds good.

Also, with SBS, does each client get a license for Outlook
2003 on their box?

Each CAL of SBS allows you to install Outlook 2003.

--
Javier [SBS MVP]
www.msmvps.com/javier
SBS ROCKS!!!


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