Interacting with COBOL in COMTI (.NET 2003)
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Interacting with COBOL in COMTI (.NET 2003)

 
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nychra
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject: Interacting with COBOL in COMTI (.NET 2003) Reply with quote

Is it possible to import COBOL code into the COMTI designer and then modify
the code in the designer using .NET syntax, etc.?

Thanks!
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Neil Pike
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: Interacting with COBOL in COMTI (.NET 2003) Reply with quote

Nychra,

Not something I get involved in, but the URL below is for a technical article
covering COMTI/.NET

(watch the URL wrap)


http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=865CD095-3F1D-4888-962
9-523320B1791E&displaylang=en

Quote:
Is it possible to import COBOL code into the COMTI designer and then modify
the code in the designer using .NET syntax, etc.?

Thanks!


Neil Pike. Protech Computing Ltd
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Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: RE: Interacting with COBOL in COMTI (.NET 2003) Reply with quote

As you mention Designer, I would assume you mean HIS 2004, but then you say
COMTI, and it is now called TI in HIS 2004. If you mean HIS 2004, yes,
Designer allows you to import COBOL code and have the routines, parameters,
structures and datatables defined in .NET-isms rather than COM-isms.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
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Is it possible to import COBOL code into the COMTI designer and then modify
the code in the designer using .NET syntax, etc.?

Thanks!
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nychra
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: RE: Interacting with COBOL in COMTI (.NET 2003) Reply with quote

Thank you Rob. Sorry for the confusion in my terminology. The truth is that
we have .NET 2003 installed here, but most of the online research I have
found has been for .NET 2004, so I must have gotten mixed up. Please let me
clarify.

I am researching this question for my director. His concern is that we have
significant investment in COBOL, but in several years we may not have any
COBOL programmers on staff. Thus, he has asked me to find out if, in .NET
2003 (or, if not, in 2004) we would be able to make modifications to original
source code once it had been imported into the designer, or create new code
in the designer (using ".NET-isms") that could then be used through the
interface to the mainframe. Do you know if either of these is possible?

Thanks again,

Tom Okowitz
HRA-NYC

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Quote:
As you mention Designer, I would assume you mean HIS 2004, but then you say
COMTI, and it is now called TI in HIS 2004. If you mean HIS 2004, yes,
Designer allows you to import COBOL code and have the routines, parameters,
structures and datatables defined in .NET-isms rather than COM-isms.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
Is it possible to import COBOL code into the COMTI designer and then modify
the code in the designer using .NET syntax, etc.?

Thanks!
Back to top
Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:24 am    Post subject: RE: Interacting with COBOL in COMTI (.NET 2003) Reply with quote

Hi Tom,
Quick description: TI allows you to access existing Mainframe
(including AS/400) Applications from the Windows world in a simple fashion.
The TI Designer imports COBOL (or RPG) Data Definitions, NOT code. From the
Data Definitions a COM or .NET Object is defined containing Methods whose
Parameters correspond to the elements of the Data Definitions. Client code
(on the Windows machine) then just creates a COM/.NET Object, provides
parameters and calls methods as with any other COM/.NET Object and the TI
runtime does all of the Data conversion, Protocol handling etc needed to
get that Data to and from the Mainframe Application.

Thus, Designer in particular and TI in General does not allow you to
make modifications to the original Source Code, they only allow you to
access existing Mainframe Applications.

I am still not sure if

1) you are looking to migrate your code from the Mainframe down to Windows
(there are COBOL compilers for Windows) and slowly change it from COBOL to
some other language and get rid of the Mainframe by moving DBs etc to
Windows

2) you are looking to migrate your code from the Mainframe as 1) but keep
e.g. the DBs on the Mainframe

3) you are hoping somehow to change the Mainframe code in Designer and have
it run on the Mainframe

4) you want to keep your existing code on the Mainframe to provide certain
basic functionality but write new code on Windows which builds on top of
that to provide more complex functionality

TI is basically for 4).

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------

Thank you Rob. Sorry for the confusion in my terminology. The truth is
that
we have .NET 2003 installed here, but most of the online research I have
found has been for .NET 2004, so I must have gotten mixed up. Please let
me
clarify.

I am researching this question for my director. His concern is that we
have
significant investment in COBOL, but in several years we may not have any
COBOL programmers on staff. Thus, he has asked me to find out if, in .NET
2003 (or, if not, in 2004) we would be able to make modifications to
original
source code once it had been imported into the designer, or create new code
in the designer (using ".NET-isms") that could then be used through the
interface to the mainframe. Do you know if either of these is possible?

Thanks again,

Tom Okowitz
HRA-NYC

"Rob Beardsworth [MSFT]" wrote:

Quote:
As you mention Designer, I would assume you mean HIS 2004, but then you
say
COMTI, and it is now called TI in HIS 2004. If you mean HIS 2004, yes,
Designer allows you to import COBOL code and have the routines,
parameters,
structures and datatables defined in .NET-isms rather than COM-isms.

Rob Beardsworth
Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of any included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
--------------------
Is it possible to import COBOL code into the COMTI designer and then
modify
the code in the designer using .NET syntax, etc.?

Thanks!
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