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Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:53 am Post subject:
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We're in the early stages of deploying SPS, and judging by initial team
response, it's likely to become a critical element in our methodology. In
response to an earlier post, it was pointed out to me that SPS backups can
only be restored on a machine with the same name, same IP address, and same
disk configuration as that on which it was made. This troubles me a bit,
since I have no way of verifying that my backups are good until I actually
need them, correct? (Well, I suppose I could set up a stand-alone server,
but then I'd have to keep it off the network to avoid contention, which
would make moving data a pain.)
So, what we were wondering is whether we could set up SPS to run on a
Windows 2003 cluster. (Even if that wouldn't solve our backup validation
dilemma, we'd feel safer knowing we had a fully redundant configuration.
Any advice appreciated.
Thanks.
Joe |
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Lindley
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:38 am Post subject:
Re: SPS on a Cluster? |
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Joe,
As far as clustering, the only thing you would be clustering is the actual
SQL database - not SPS. Also, if you just want to test your backup, why
don't you just create a new "test" portal on the same box?
For example, create a portal which creates its new associated databases
etc - but since this is just test, just overwrite the test portal with your
production portal/database and then verify your restore - just make sure you
have different DNS name/IIS virtual directory.
good luck,
lindley
"Exotic-Scales.com" <jb@NOSPAM.exotic-scales.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | We're in the early stages of deploying SPS, and judging by initial team
response, it's likely to become a critical element in our methodology. In
response to an earlier post, it was pointed out to me that SPS backups can
only be restored on a machine with the same name, same IP address, and
same disk configuration as that on which it was made. This troubles me a
bit, since I have no way of verifying that my backups are good until I
actually need them, correct? (Well, I suppose I could set up a stand-alone
server, but then I'd have to keep it off the network to avoid contention,
which would make moving data a pain.)
So, what we were wondering is whether we could set up SPS to run on a
Windows 2003 cluster. (Even if that wouldn't solve our backup validation
dilemma, we'd feel safer knowing we had a fully redundant configuration.
Any advice appreciated.
Thanks.
Joe
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Exotic-Scales.com
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject:
Re: SPS on a Cluster? |
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I see, I think. I was under the impression that the cluster would fully
duplicate everything. If not, then how would applications keep running if
one member went down?
Creating the test portal sounds like it will work. Thanks. I guess I'll
have to investigate the capabilities of the windows clustering more closely.
Being an ex DEC guy, I was assuming that the Windows cluster worked
similarly to the old vax clusters.
Joe
"Lindley" <lindleyNOSPAM4ME.leeATideaDOTcom> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Joe,
As far as clustering, the only thing you would be clustering is the actual
SQL database - not SPS. Also, if you just want to test your backup, why
don't you just create a new "test" portal on the same box?
For example, create a portal which creates its new associated databases
etc - but since this is just test, just overwrite the test portal with
your production portal/database and then verify your restore - just make
sure you have different DNS name/IIS virtual directory.
good luck,
lindley
"Exotic-Scales.com" <jb@NOSPAM.exotic-scales.com> wrote in message
news:10u90tct90uep81@corp.supernews.com...
We're in the early stages of deploying SPS, and judging by initial team
response, it's likely to become a critical element in our methodology.
In response to an earlier post, it was pointed out to me that SPS backups
can only be restored on a machine with the same name, same IP address,
and same disk configuration as that on which it was made. This troubles
me a bit, since I have no way of verifying that my backups are good until
I actually need them, correct? (Well, I suppose I could set up a
stand-alone server, but then I'd have to keep it off the network to avoid
contention, which would make moving data a pain.)
So, what we were wondering is whether we could set up SPS to run on a
Windows 2003 cluster. (Even if that wouldn't solve our backup validation
dilemma, we'd feel safer knowing we had a fully redundant configuration.
Any advice appreciated.
Thanks.
Joe
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject:
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Joe:
I would suggest that you have a look at the Microsoft Solutions Accelerator
for Intranets
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7cdc1f2d-f550-49e0-
9b74-318da11ba1b4&DisplayLang=en
We have installed a medium server farm according to their pattern. Two
front-end servers are load-balanced, a middle index/job server, and two
clustered back-end database servers. This pattern is also detailed in the
Sharepoint Products and Technologies Resource Kit, which is an excellent
guide.
Hope this helps.
John Willard
Sr. Architect
VA Dept of Transportation.
"Exotic-Scales.com" <jb@NOSPAM.exotic-scales.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I see, I think. I was under the impression that the cluster would fully
duplicate everything. If not, then how would applications keep running if
one member went down?
Creating the test portal sounds like it will work. Thanks. I guess I'll
have to investigate the capabilities of the windows clustering more
closely.
Being an ex DEC guy, I was assuming that the Windows cluster worked
similarly to the old vax clusters.
Joe
"Lindley" <lindleyNOSPAM4ME.leeATideaDOTcom> wrote in message
news:eNiXWCG%23EHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Joe,
As far as clustering, the only thing you would be clustering is the
actual
SQL database - not SPS. Also, if you just want to test your backup, why
don't you just create a new "test" portal on the same box?
For example, create a portal which creates its new associated databases
etc - but since this is just test, just overwrite the test portal with
your production portal/database and then verify your restore - just make
sure you have different DNS name/IIS virtual directory.
good luck,
lindley
"Exotic-Scales.com" <jb@NOSPAM.exotic-scales.com> wrote in message
news:10u90tct90uep81@corp.supernews.com...
We're in the early stages of deploying SPS, and judging by initial team
response, it's likely to become a critical element in our methodology.
In response to an earlier post, it was pointed out to me that SPS
backups
can only be restored on a machine with the same name, same IP address,
and same disk configuration as that on which it was made. This
troubles
me a bit, since I have no way of verifying that my backups are good
until
I actually need them, correct? (Well, I suppose I could set up a
stand-alone server, but then I'd have to keep it off the network to
avoid
contention, which would make moving data a pain.)
So, what we were wondering is whether we could set up SPS to run on a
Windows 2003 cluster. (Even if that wouldn't solve our backup
validation
dilemma, we'd feel safer knowing we had a fully redundant
configuration.
Any advice appreciated.
Thanks.
Joe
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Exotic-Scales.com
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for that pointer.
Joe
<jwillard@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Joe:
I would suggest that you have a look at the Microsoft Solutions
Accelerator
for Intranets
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7cdc1f2d-f550-49e0-
9b74-318da11ba1b4&DisplayLang=en
We have installed a medium server farm according to their pattern. Two
front-end servers are load-balanced, a middle index/job server, and two
clustered back-end database servers. This pattern is also detailed in the
Sharepoint Products and Technologies Resource Kit, which is an excellent
guide.
Hope this helps.
John Willard
Sr. Architect
VA Dept of Transportation.
"Exotic-Scales.com" <jb@NOSPAM.exotic-scales.com> wrote in message
news:10ua2r5a81eub04@corp.supernews.com...
I see, I think. I was under the impression that the cluster would fully
duplicate everything. If not, then how would applications keep running
if
one member went down?
Creating the test portal sounds like it will work. Thanks. I guess I'll
have to investigate the capabilities of the windows clustering more
closely.
Being an ex DEC guy, I was assuming that the Windows cluster worked
similarly to the old vax clusters.
Joe
"Lindley" <lindleyNOSPAM4ME.leeATideaDOTcom> wrote in message
news:eNiXWCG%23EHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Joe,
As far as clustering, the only thing you would be clustering is the
actual
SQL database - not SPS. Also, if you just want to test your backup,
why
don't you just create a new "test" portal on the same box?
For example, create a portal which creates its new associated databases
etc - but since this is just test, just overwrite the test portal with
your production portal/database and then verify your restore - just
make
sure you have different DNS name/IIS virtual directory.
good luck,
lindley
"Exotic-Scales.com" <jb@NOSPAM.exotic-scales.com> wrote in message
news:10u90tct90uep81@corp.supernews.com...
We're in the early stages of deploying SPS, and judging by initial
team
response, it's likely to become a critical element in our methodology.
In response to an earlier post, it was pointed out to me that SPS
backups
can only be restored on a machine with the same name, same IP address,
and same disk configuration as that on which it was made. This
troubles
me a bit, since I have no way of verifying that my backups are good
until
I actually need them, correct? (Well, I suppose I could set up a
stand-alone server, but then I'd have to keep it off the network to
avoid
contention, which would make moving data a pain.)
So, what we were wondering is whether we could set up SPS to run on a
Windows 2003 cluster. (Even if that wouldn't solve our backup
validation
dilemma, we'd feel safer knowing we had a fully redundant
configuration.
Any advice appreciated.
Thanks.
Joe
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